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This MAY be one of the most important developments among many startling and high priority events of our recent and looming history.
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The tendency, particularly for the more skeptical, will be to be dismissive. imho, that would be ignorant and foolish. This IS a major change on the world stage. The implications are unprecedented on a major scale.
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imho, only Christ's Second Coming, The Rapture or the overt revelation of the fallen angel ET's could rank more important.
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It could be argued that WW3 might be seen as more important. However, the effects of WW3 on the average global citizen that survived would be RELATIVELY limited in time. The effects of this technology could alter the world to come for centuries--or longer.

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I felt that Trump's SElection signaled perhaps a delay in the rush toward WW3. This may indicate . . . perhaps not . . . The oligarchy has resisted releasing such tech for more than 50 years. I'm guessing that they are highly unlikely to release it without a major population reduction, first.
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Certainly they are capable of triggering WW3 in order to squelch India's releasing such a technology.
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The globalist PTB have long been told that they MUST reduce the global population to 500 million BEFORE 'free energy' technologies are released. That otherwise, the population would mushroom to 25 billion almost overnight and mankind and the planet would pollute themselves to extinction.

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To be clear . . . "free energy" is virtually exactly that. It jangles all the sensibilities we've been taught all our lives. Nevertheless, given quantum mechanics, it is exceedingly real. Reportedly 3-4 DIFFERENT technologies would each allow about a large suitcase sized unit in each home and vehicle. Maintenance costs would be about $0.50 per YEAR.

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They COULD manage feeding the world, making the desert bloom and ending pollution of virtually all types via such technologies. They have refused to do so for more than 50 years.

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Actually, the real reason is likely that they know that a large population is a hazard to their control. That sooner or later they would be overthrown.

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A big part of me wonders if this INDIA independence on this issue will move TPTB to light off WW3 sooner as a way to push the tech back into a cave while reducing the population.

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@Frank Cannon,
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Go ahead and throw your fiercest skeptical rocks at it, Frank. I've read too much to disbelieve these reports. . . . as well as talked to some 'in the know.'
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There have been smatterings of murmmers the last year or 3 of this or that tinkerer or scientist being close to releasing such. I was not surprised that none seemed to create much of a splash.
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However, for a major country's government to stand behind the "new" tech (that's really more than 60 years old, actually--maybe more than 100), that's likely to upset the globalist apple cart . . . unless . . . true to FDR's statement . . . this is merely another one of their scheduled paradigm shifts.
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FDR merely said that: "If it happens in politics, it was planned that way." By extrapolation--given that the oligarchy is evidently in !!!CONTROL!!! of ALL the major countries and most smaller ones, that would include Inida.
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Certainly there's plenty of room for puzzlement considering all the variables and even the known, much less the probable facts.


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It is conceivable that they might want the tech introduced just prior to WW3 . . . in case things didn't go precisely as planned . . . there'd be some hope that some portion of the survivors might have and make use of the tech in the aftermath.
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Re: India Permits Free Energy Tech Despite Threats From UK, US, Saudi Arabia
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2016, 07:18:57 pm »
I lived in India. 

India is essentially a total Socialist state - operating within the Caste system structure.  Nobles and Serfs are the entire construct of their society.

'Free energy' is not how one would assert it's application in India.  'Free energy' is essentially a demand for subsidized power by the state.  The amount of corruption

As it is right now - India cannot supply enough electricity to it's people to keep power on at all times.  Residents have to buy their own power cable and hook their own properties up to the main power lines and pay bribes on top of usage fees and taxes EACH WEEK just to keep their connection. 



Rolling blackouts are daily - and it was a running joke that we would know when Christ returns before we would know when the power comes back on in India.  Power is often used as a political pry bar as well.   

India would permit free energy tech to be researched and established - but corruption on a scale that would blow your mind embues everything inside India.  Their culture would never permit any energy that it produces to be given away for free.  The High and Vaisha Castes will always seek to make maximum profits from providing what their labor creates.
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2016, 08:22:25 pm »
I lived in India. 

India is essentially a total Socialist state - operating within the Caste system structure.  Nobles and Serfs are the entire construct of their society.

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Rolling blackouts are daily - and it was a running joke that we would know when Christ returns before we would know when the power comes back on in India.  Power is often used as a political pry bar as well.   

India would permit free energy tech to be researched and established - but corruption on a scale that would blow your mind embues everything inside India.  Their culture would never permit any energy that it produces to be given away for free.  The High and Vaisha Castes will always seek to make maximum profits from providing what their labor creates.


That's certainly more than plausible.
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And, India, as a culture, seems as resistant to change as any on record.
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Nevertheless . . . there are some bright folks in India . . . Lots of things are possible, regardless of how improbable or difficult.
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IIRC, the goal is to get the technology out in the public domain.
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If it became known well enough in the public domain, it might be difficult to stamp out.

Shanty shop tinkerers would be producing units--at least for their extended family--far and wide. "Damn the oligarchys and elite castes," at that point.

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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2016, 08:23:34 pm »

This is an interesting bit in the ball park of zero-point energy:

http://earthmysterynews.com/2016/10/27/wikileaks-podesta-interested-in-zero-point-energy-ufo-disclosure/

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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2016, 09:16:55 pm »
That's certainly more than plausible.
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And, India, as a culture, seems as resistant to change as any on record.
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Nevertheless . . . there are some bright folks in India . . . Lots of things are possible, regardless of how improbable or difficult.
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IIRC, the goal is to get the technology out in the public domain.
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If it became known well enough in the public domain, it might be difficult to stamp out.

Shanty shop tinkerers would be producing units--at least for their extended family--far and wide. "Damn the oligarchys and elite castes," at that point.

Thanks for your kind reply.

One has to understand Indian culture.

They are a backwards culture steeped in the Hindu mysticism that has governed it's belief systems for 3,000 years.  It's like going back in time when you are there, but everyone has cell phones. 

They are smart people, except that the high castes do not permit the lower castes to become educated or rise via merit to stations outside of their caste.  In this regard India is very closed and limiting to itself. 

Modi is a militant radical Hindu - and seeks to return India to a pure Hindu state.

Under the awareness of most Westerners, India has been purging and closing all Western charities and industries inside India and putting the rest on very strict surveillance.

Public domain in India is not like it is here.  Public domain will be limited to the High Castes as it has been for 3,000 years.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2016, 10:34:20 pm »
India has far more pressing issues than this. The country may not exist in a year with how their re-monetizing is going.

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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2016, 11:06:39 pm »
One has to understand Indian culture.

They are a backwards culture steeped in the Hindu mysticism that has governed it's belief systems for 3,000 years.  It's like going back in time when you are there, but everyone has cell phones. 

They are smart people, except that the high castes do not permit the lower castes to become educated or rise via merit to stations outside of their caste.  In this regard India is very closed and limiting to itself. 

Modi is a militant radical Hindu - and seeks to return India to a pure Hindu state.

Under the awareness of most Westerners, India has been purging and closing all Western charities and industries inside India and putting the rest on very strict surveillance.

Public domain in India is not like it is here.  Public domain will be limited to the High Castes as it has been for 3,000 years.

Interesting.

Thanks.

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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2016, 11:07:17 pm »
India has far more pressing issues than this. The country may not exist in a year with how their re-monetizing is going.

Plenty of truth to that.

However . . . wouldn't having to pay nothing for energy help a lot of people and organizations--including the government?
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2016, 05:07:09 am »
One has to understand Indian culture.

They are a backwards culture steeped in the Hindu mysticism that has governed it's belief systems for 3,000 years.  It's like going back in time when you are there, but everyone has cell phones. 

They are smart people, except that the high castes do not permit the lower castes to become educated or rise via merit to stations outside of their caste.  In this regard India is very closed and limiting to itself. 

Modi is a militant radical Hindu - and seeks to return India to a pure Hindu state.

Under the awareness of most Westerners, India has been purging and closing all Western charities and industries inside India and putting the rest on very strict surveillance.

Public domain in India is not like it is here.  Public domain will be limited to the High Castes as it has been for 3,000 years.

I think that you and I both know that THE PROUD shall be brought low . . . and that includes all the high caste folks in India and elsewhere.

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2016, 05:21:19 am »

@Frank Cannon,

One has to understand Indian culture.

[snip]

Public domain in India is not like it is here.  Public domain will be limited to the High Castes as it has been for 3,000 years.

Interesting:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/for-the-first-time-in-india-the-rich-beg-the-poor-to-help-them-20161117-gsrcuo.html

"For the first time in India--the rich beg the poor to help them"

. . . to launder their horde of large denomination bills that are no longer kosher.

Life can get interesting for all of us--regardless of wealth, status, power, position, ego, arrogance, etc.
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2016, 06:48:31 am »
500 INR and 1000 INR notes are the bulk of currency that was in use when I lived there among all castes.

500 INR is about $7.50, and 1000INR is about $15

It would be the equivalent of our government suddenly saying that $5 and $10 bills are no good effective immediately.

Modi is claiming corruption and black market money as the reason - but what it really amounts to is income that has not been taxed and assessed as Modi demands all funds to be taxed in India.

People who work for cash - which is about 90% of the country - were able to avoid tax reporting and were only in the tax system via VAT and usage taxes.

You also need to understand how the bribery system works in India - most of these upper castes, government workers and utility workers who provide services will demand a bribe be paid along with regular fees for work to be done, such as installing a working phone or DSL cable.  If the bribe in cash to be paid is not enough to satisfy, they often will not do the work.  We had to pay bribes to get into the hospital, pay bribes to the doctors.  It is a major source of income for most in the labor and Vaisha castes - that bribes are required on top of the regular fees.

To get a home built for one of the brethren, we had to pay bribes to get the government officials to approve property documents or they would not see us, pay bribes to get blueprints approved or risk having them rejected, pay bribes to get crews contracted and pay bribes to suppliers before one brick was laid.  All those bribes are in cash, and none of it is reported.  All that money is what Modi wants taxed - but he is not doing away with the bribery system - because he can't.  It is part and parcel of how India operates.  It is just that the government will get more of it's paws into every transaction despite the cheers of the low castes upon the richer castes.
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Re: India Permits Free Energy Tech Despite Threats From UK, US, Saudi Arabia
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2016, 07:08:19 am »
I lived in India. 

India is essentially a total Socialist state - operating within the Caste system structure.  Nobles and Serfs are the entire construct of their society.

'Free energy' is not how one would assert it's application in India.  'Free energy' is essentially a demand for subsidized power by the state.  The amount of corruption

As it is right now - India cannot supply enough electricity to it's people to keep power on at all times.  Residents have to buy their own power cable and hook their own properties up to the main power lines and pay bribes on top of usage fees and taxes EACH WEEK just to keep their connection. 

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Rolling blackouts are daily - and it was a running joke that we would know when Christ returns before we would know when the power comes back on in India.  Power is often used as a political pry bar as well.   

India would permit free energy tech to be researched and established - but corruption on a scale that would blow your mind embues everything inside India.  Their culture would never permit any energy that it produces to be given away for free.  The High and Vaisha Castes will always seek to make maximum profits from providing what their labor creates.

I've spent a lot of time since my senior trip in SE Asia. The average American as well as this writer have little or no idea what is like in a 3rd world country.  When asked what it is like I just say no one here can imagine what life is like there without experiencing it and the same for someone living there...
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2016, 03:46:50 pm »
500 INR and 1000 INR notes are the bulk of currency that was in use when I lived there among all castes.

500 INR is about $7.50, and 1000INR is about $15

It would be the equivalent of our government suddenly saying that $5 and $10 bills are no good effective immediately.

Modi is claiming corruption and black market money as the reason - but what it really amounts to is income that has not been taxed and assessed as Modi demands all funds to be taxed in India.

People who work for cash - which is about 90% of the country - were able to avoid tax reporting and were only in the tax system via VAT and usage taxes.

You also need to understand how the bribery system works in India - most of these upper castes, government workers and utility workers who provide services will demand a bribe be paid along with regular fees for work to be done, such as installing a working phone or DSL cable.  If the bribe in cash to be paid is not enough to satisfy, they often will not do the work.  We had to pay bribes to get into the hospital, pay bribes to the doctors.  It is a major source of income for most in the labor and Vaisha castes - that bribes are required on top of the regular fees.

To get a home built for one of the brethren, we had to pay bribes to get the government officials to approve property documents or they would not see us, pay bribes to get blueprints approved or risk having them rejected, pay bribes to get crews contracted and pay bribes to suppliers before one brick was laid.  All those bribes are in cash, and none of it is reported.  All that money is what Modi wants taxed - but he is not doing away with the bribery system - because he can't.  It is part and parcel of how India operates.  It is just that the government will get more of it's paws into every transaction despite the cheers of the low castes upon the richer castes.


And . . . to think . . . the oligarchy is diligently at work trying to insure that the whole world becomes that corrupt and more.

Sigh.

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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2016, 03:52:13 pm »
I've spent a lot of time since my senior trip in SE Asia. The average American as well as this writer have little or no idea what is like in a 3rd world country.  When asked what it is like I just say no one here can imagine what life is like there without experiencing it and the same for someone living there...

I believe that the degree to which folks living in a 3rd world country truly GROK what life is like for the various status levels of locals--

depends almost entirely on:

1. Their degree of true, heart-felt empathy & compassion;
2. Their degree of perceptiveness;
3. Their degree of insulation--nitty-gritty distance from the lower rungs of the ladder;
4. Their degree of genuine love for the people.


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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2016, 07:35:09 pm »
I believe that the degree to which folks living in a 3rd world country truly GROK what life is like for the various status levels of locals--

depends almost entirely on:

1. Their degree of true, heart-felt empathy & compassion;
2. Their degree of perceptiveness;
3. Their degree of insulation--nitty-gritty distance from the lower rungs of the ladder;
4. Their degree of genuine love for the people.


India is a country that has been largely untouched by biblical influence.  It is a nation of pure, unadulterated paganism - 300 MILLION MAJOR official deities and gods that are worshipped.

Indians inside India are best illustrated in American terms by the Ferengi race in Star Trek The Next Generation: whatever it takes to get ahead, lie, cheat steal are attributes that are admired and respected.  Tearing down your neighbor to climb over their body to get something before he does is exactly what life is like inside India.  There is no compassion or empathy for anyone outside of family or caste, rather the opposite.

30-40% of the Indian population of low castes, untouchables, Widows and orphans are totally illiterate in their own language - of which there are 1600 different languages and dialects in India.  Sometimes one village cannot understand the dialects of the villagers in the town next to them, even when they are speaking the same language such as Telugu (which is the language spoken where I lived in A.P.).  Perceptiveness is limited to self and one's own needs.  That trait crosses all castes and groups except for Christian groups - whom are totally hated and ostracized and are not considered to be human within Indian society.   Politicians pander to the lower castes and groups to get elected - but do the same thing our miscreants in office and often those offices are used for cronyism and self-enrichment.  Politicians, like Doctors are regarded as gods to be revered and worshipped in India. Lower castes are not permitted to question someone of a higher caste unless they want to risk punishment or arrest.  What India does to redress grievances is what Ghandi taught them - strike and shut down the streets and all commerce with mob sit ins.  Perception from the Authorities is often limited to prevent that occurrence.

Insulation is set in cement within Indian culture due to the caste system.  There are 4 major castes that are on the top of the pyramid - the brahmins run India - they are Hindu priests .  Think of the set up the same as in Iran: the religious leaders run the country and influence the Kshatryias  caste of politicians and military warriors that are below them.  Then you have the merchant and business class - followed by the labor caste.  Outside of that triangle are the untouchables, that make up nearly 35% of the population.  Within each caste there are literally millions of castes - a pecking order based on race heritage, birth station, name, village, and family.  It is without question the most oppressive cultural system I have ever been witness to or experienced.

Genuine love for the people is a concept as foreign to India as Hinduism is to most Americans.  India revolves around self and the family.  The population are often looked at by their leaders as a natural resource for labor and used to stir to mob action when certain people are able to bend the ears.

Modi has only love for pure Hindus and has told the Muslims to get out and go to Pakistan - and warned the Christians to convert back to Hinduism or get eradicated.  When I was there last year -  the federal government was sponsoring Hindu 'revivals' - where Brahmins would come with an entourage to small villages and ask the Hindus to point out the Christians - whereby they would begin a Hindu worship service, complete with animal sacrifice to whatever god the village worshipped and they would incite the village to surround the homes of Christians and convert back to Hinduism.  They burn bibles and religious tracts - and often the fear of physical harm causes many to surrender to the mob and avoid their homes from being ransacked and burned by the mob.  Sometimes the local police assist these traveling troupes and add to the levels of fear being imposed.  Muslims are a bit more touchy because they make up 13% of the Indian population and they do not sit so idle.  That said, Modi was involved in orchestrating a massacre in 2002 known as the Gujarat pogrom.  His BJP party slaughtered almost a 1,000 muslims in several villages.  Of course he was 'cleared' of any wrongdoing when he was running for Prime Minister.  But make no mistake - the BJP party in India is their version of the Nazi party.  Modi wants a pure Hindu state, and he wants all foreign influence especially from the West - purged from India.
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2016, 08:14:48 pm »
@INVAR,

Thanks. Horrific.

Though, these traits I was noting--AS APPLIED TO, held by, demonstrated by, walked in by THE FOREIGNER, OBSERVER/participant observer--were what would govern the DEGREE of accurate understanding on the part of the foreign observer.


1. Their degree of true, heart-felt empathy & compassion;
2. Their degree of perceptiveness;
3. Their degree of insulation--nitty-gritty distance from the lower rungs of the ladder;
4. Their degree of genuine love for the people.


India is a country that has been largely untouched by biblical influence.  It is a nation of pure, unadulterated paganism - 300 MILLION MAJOR official deities and gods that are worshipped.

Indians inside India are best illustrated in American terms by the Ferengi race in Star Trek The Next Generation: whatever it takes to get ahead, lie, cheat steal are attributes that are admired and respected.  Tearing down your neighbor to climb over their body to get something before he does is exactly what life is like inside India.  There is no compassion or empathy for anyone outside of family or caste, rather the opposite.

30-40% of the Indian population of low castes, untouchables, Widows and orphans are totally illiterate in their own language - of which there are 1600 different languages and dialects in India.  Sometimes one village cannot understand the dialects of the villagers in the town next to them, even when they are speaking the same language such as Telugu (which is the language spoken where I lived in A.P.).  Perceptiveness is limited to self and one's own needs.  That trait crosses all castes and groups except for Christian groups - whom are totally hated and ostracized and are not considered to be human within Indian society.   Politicians pander to the lower castes and groups to get elected - but do the same thing our miscreants in office and often those offices are used for cronyism and self-enrichment.  Politicians, like Doctors are regarded as gods to be revered and worshipped in India. Lower castes are not permitted to question someone of a higher caste unless they want to risk punishment or arrest.  What India does to redress grievances is what Ghandi taught them - strike and shut down the streets and all commerce with mob sit ins.  Perception from the Authorities is often limited to prevent that occurrence.

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Modi has only love for pure Hindus and has told the Muslims to get out and go to Pakistan - and warned the Christians to convert back to Hinduism or get eradicated.  When I was there last year -  the federal government was sponsoring Hindu 'revivals' - where Brahmins would come with an entourage to small villages and ask the Hindus to point out the Christians - whereby they would begin a Hindu worship service, complete with animal sacrifice to whatever god the village worshipped and they would incite the village to surround the homes of Christians and convert back to Hinduism.  They burn bibles and religious tracts - and often the fear of physical harm causes many to surrender to the mob and avoid their homes from being ransacked and burned by the mob.  Sometimes the local police assist these traveling troupes and add to the levels of fear being imposed.  Muslims are a bit more touchy because they make up 13% of the Indian population and they do not sit so idle.  That said, Modi was involved in orchestrating a massacre in 2002 known as the Gujarat pogrom.  His BJP party slaughtered almost a 1,000 muslims in several villages.  Of course he was 'cleared' of any wrongdoing when he was running for Prime Minister.  But make no mistake - the BJP party in India is their version of the Nazi party.  Modi wants a pure Hindu state, and he wants all foreign influence especially from the West - purged from India.
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