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By A. Barton Hinkle
http://reason.com/archives/2016/11/16/trump-is-not-my-president-and-clinton-is/print

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The protesters and rioters who have been swarming streets are right: Donald Trump is not their president.

He is not your president, either. He won't be until Jan. 20.

This might seem like a petty quibble, but it shouldn't. It gets to a point that has fallen out of favor in recent years, and needs
reviving.

The late Robert Peniston was a Richmonder who had served as navigator aboard the presidential yacht during Harry Truman's
administration. According to Peniston, he dropped in on the retired Truman in Independence, Mo., some years later. When he
addressed Truman as "Mr. President," Truman corrected him. There is only one president of the United States, Truman insisted:
the one in the Oval Office. Peniston could call him "Mr. Truman."

This comes as news to the folks at the Truman Library, who say others often addressed Truman as Mr. President without any
objection from him. Still, it's an appealing story—one that speaks to our general belief in the equal dignity of individuals
regardless of rank or social class.

Americans pay tribute to that value, as they should. Liberals in particular obsess over it—sometimes to the point of viewing any
form of inequality as evidence of injustice until proven otherwise.

The presidential election has revived interest in the idea of common dignity as well. In an interview with NPR, novelist Richard
Russo recently speculated on reasons for Donald Trump's success: "When you lose work, which has happened to many of
Donald Trump's supporters—or they fear is going to happen to them—you lose your dignity. Maybe you're nobody. Maybe you
don't matter." In The Wall Street Journal last week, American Enterprise Institute president Arthur C. Brooks explained "How
Donald Trump Filled the Dignity Gap."

And yet Americans often undermine that small-d democratic belief in equal dignity when they flout the Truman doctrine about
titles—which they do constantly.

"As I understand it," said Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway the morning after the election, "Secretary Clinton
commended Donald Trump on a hard-fought race and congratulated him for his victory and he told Secretary Clinton she's very
smart, very tough, had waged a tremendous campaign."

Clinton stopped being Secretary of State on Feb. 1, 2013. Yet Conway has a great deal of company. Hillary Clinton recently has
been called "Secretary Clinton" by Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), FBI director James Comey, all three presidential debate moderators,
members of the media, and more.

Nor is Clinton unique in receiving this treatment. Many ex-public officials do—as when Fox News' Megyn Kelly recently addressed
Newt Gingrich as "Mr. Speaker." You'll often hear former governors addressed as "Governor so-and-so." The same goes for ex-
senators, former ambassadors, and others.

It shouldn't. Once someone leaves office, he or she should leave the title behind, too. Regarding ambassadors, the State Department
even says so in black and white. According to one diplomatic training manual, department regulations long forbade anyone not
"actually in the job of ambassador" to use the title of ambassador, but "long-standing custom and practice" has rendered doing so
permissible. In short: It's against the rules, but nobody pays attention. The State Department also says those who were called "The
Honorable" may continue to be after leaving office.

All of this title promiscuity runs contrary to the Constitution—which stipulates, in Article I Section 9, that "no title of nobility shall be
granted by the United States." True, titles such as Secretary, Governor, Speaker, and so on do not pass down to the holder's offspring,
so calling Newt Gingrich "Mr. Speaker" might not be giving him a title of nobility in the strictest sense. But it certainly qualifies in the
figurative sense. He's Mr. Gingrich now.

For what it's worth, Virginia's Constitution is pretty clear, too: "The chief executive power of the Commonwealth shall be vested in a
Governor." A governor. Singular. At any given moment, the state has only one.

Many public officials probably know the story of Lucius Qunctius Cincinnatus, who was plucked from his farm and appointed dictator
during an hour of Roman crisis. He dealt with the crisis, celebrated the achievement in Rome, and then went back to his farm, a common
man once more. In America, being a common man should be nobility enough. It's a shame more politicians today apparently don't
agree.

A few years ago, on TOS, I offered a comment in which I referred to a certain former Alaska governor as Mrs.
Palin. Since I don't know the lady personally I felt it untoward to refer to her as Sarah; and, since she no longer
held the office, I didn't think it proper to refer to her as Gov. Palin.

Well, now. I got jumped post haste by a particularly vociferous Palin partisan who scolded me that, and I quote,
"Her name is Governor Palin." Never mind that she was out of office over two years at the time.

In those years, too, there were those acolytes of Alan Keyes who insisted on calling him "Ambassador," never
mind that Keyes was Ambassador to the United Nations Economic and Social Council for two years and hadn't
had the job since the Kansas City Royals won the first of their two World Series. (Some of us would call Keyes
"the carpetbagging buttinski who made His Excellency Al-Hashish Field Marshmallow Dr. Barack Obama Dada
possible in the first place," but never mind.)


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

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By A. Barton Hinkle
http://reason.com/archives/2016/11/16/trump-is-not-my-president-and-clinton-is/print

A few years ago, on TOS, I offered a comment in which I referred to a certain former Alaska governor as Mrs.
Palin. Since I don't know the lady personally I felt it untoward to refer to her as Sarah; and, since she no longer
held the office, I didn't think it proper to refer to her as Gov. Palin.

Well, now. I got jumped post haste by a particularly vociferous Palin partisan who scolded me that, and I quote,
"Her name is Governor Palin." Never mind that she was out of office over two years at the time.

In those years, too, there were those acolytes of Alan Keyes who insisted on calling him "Ambassador," never
mind that Keyes was Ambassador to the United Nations Economic and Social Council for two years and hadn't
had the job since the Kansas City Royals won the first of their two World Series. (Some of us would call Keyes
"the carpetbagging buttinski who made His Excellency Al-Hashish Field Marshmallow Dr. Barack Obama Dada
possible in the first place," but never mind.)

Oh man, those 'her name is Governor Palin' fights were interesting. Entire threads dedicated to it.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2118903/posts?q=1&;page=1
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2082113/posts

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Oh man, those 'her name is Governor Palin' fights were interesting. Entire threads dedicated to it.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2118903/posts?q=1&;page=1
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2082113/posts

You notice that not one of them stopped to consider that we don't confer titles for life, and
that when the Constitution enjoined against titles of nobility (Article One, Section Nine) it implied
that titles of office fell under the same stricture.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

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You notice that not one of them stopped to consider that we don't confer titles for life, and
that when the Constitution enjoined against titles of nobility (Article One, Section Nine) it implied
that titles of office fell under the same stricture.

Of course not, they don't think, they react, usually in group, follow the leader.

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You notice that not one of them stopped to consider that we don't confer titles for life, and
that when the Constitution enjoined against titles of nobility (Article One, Section Nine) it implied
that titles of office fell under the same stricture.

Human nature demands a king, and demands a monarch to rule them, to administer punishment on those a people disdain and hand out favors and mass provisions.

In short, mankind always makes government their god.

Ours was the rarest of all governments come into existence - not just a republic - but one that acknowledged that our rights are sovereign and not bestowed upon us by men.

But like Ancient Israel having been taken out of the slavery of Egypt and demanded to go back - a people prefer servitude to Nobles than to suffer the risks that come with liberty and no monarch to rule them.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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This article is dead on. This is something that has always bugged me. If you are not doing the job anymore you are not called the title. I don't even all local officials by their title. I use their name whether they like it or not.

If they work for me, I get to call them what I want.

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But like Ancient Israel having been taken out of the slavery of Egypt and demanded to go back - a people prefer servitude to Nobles than to suffer the risks that come with liberty and no monarch to rule them.

And in due course my ancestors demanded a king, and Samuel threw his hands up, and God told Samuel
to give them a king, and they got Saul---and we know how that worked out. (That, I believe, is when God
quit getting mixed up in earthly politics. He's no fool.)


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.