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EXCLUSIVE: Blow up! Days before losing the election Hillary and Bill had a screaming match over who to blame for her flagging campaign - the ex-president so angry he threw his phone off the roof of his Arkansas penthouse

    Bill and Hillary had a vicious fight over the phone over who to blame for her sagging poll numbers, reveals a source close to the ex-president
    Hillary blamed FBI Director Comey for reopening investigation based on Anthony Weiner's shared computer with Huma Abedin for her slump
    Bill faulted  Robby Mook, John Podesta and Hillary HERSELF
    He claimed the three were  tone-deaf about the feeble economy and its impact on millions and millions of working-class voters
    'A big part of Bill's anger toward Hillary was that he was sidelined during the entire campaign by her advisers,' said the source

By Ed Klein For Dailymail.com

Published: 09:22 EST, 15 November 2016 | Updated: 11:00 EST, 15 November 2016

In the waning days of the presidential campaign, Bill and Hillary Clinton had a knock-down, drag-out fight about her effort to blame FBI Director James Comey for her slump in the polls and looming danger of defeat.

'I was with Bill in Little Rock when he had this shouting match with Hillary on the phone and she accused Comey for reviving the investigation into her use of a private email server and reversing her campaign's momentum,' said one of Bill Clinton's closest advisers.

'Bill didn't buy the excuse that Comey would cost Hillary the election,' said the source. 'As far as he was concerned, all the blame belonged to [campaign manager Robby] Mook, [campaign chairman John] Podesta and Hillary because they displayed a tone-deaf attitude about the feeble economy and its impact on millions and millions of working-class voters.

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Looks like the last week was a holy terror for all who worked for Hillary.

....which let the rest of us avoid at least four years of holy (or unholy) terror with her running things.

Funny thing is, Bill was right.  But I don't think there was much she could do about that by that point in the campaign.  She lost that vote with the "deplorables" comment, coupled with the enthusiastic clapping of her supporters at that remark.  It was symptomatic of the ultimate conflict within the democratic coalition -- white working class v. the professional victim class.

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Looks like the last week was a holy terror for all who worked for Hillary.

For someone known for it anyway, this meltdown must have been an epic, melt-your-face rant.  At least until her neurological issues took over.  I simply can't imagine.  Others have said it and I agree - watch for a rapid decline in her health.
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It looks like Slick still has a solid pulse on the country. His assessment ended up dead on.

I think the seeds of that were planted way back with BLM.  When that movement grew outraged at those who said "All Lives Matter", it was like they were closing the victimhood fraternity to anyone who wasn't a ethnic/sexual minority.  Bernie was attacked by BLM whenever he tried to bring up the point that poor white people were suffering too.  They wanted none of that.  It had to be them.

Had Hillary attempted a "I feel your pain" tack with working class whites, my guess is she'd have started getting pushback from all the other tribal interest groups in her coalition.  So, she made a decision to go all in with the demographic groups that were part of her coalition, and she thought that was enough.

It wasn't.


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Had Hillary attempted a "I feel your pain" tack with working class whites, my guess is she'd have started getting pushback from all the other tribal interest groups in her coalition.  So, she made a decision to go all in with the demographic groups that were part of her coalition, and she thought that was enough.

It wouldn't have worked anyway -- nobody would have believed that she actually cares about those outside her bubble of soul-selling sycophants.  Her natural constituency is rich people who want to curry favor, and those who see the entire world through the lens of abortion.

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IMHO The DEMS lost because they had no one else to run beside Hillary and Hillary lost for several reasons with the number one reason being her sheer arrogance.  She felt that her time had finally come.  She was a female and her name was Hillary Clinton with lots of experience and that in her mind was enough to secure her seat in the oval office.  When Trump became the nominee she was even more confident that the White House was hers; surely people wouldn't vote for someone without any political experience and certainly many saw him too unfit and too crude to be president.  She ignored the fact that he was able to tap into the emotions on key issues of an already angered electorate; instead she continued to elevate herself above the Average Joe.
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It looks like Slick still has a solid pulse on the country. His assessment ended up dead on.

As much as I can't stand Bill for many other things, he's always been a political realist that kept the issues connected to the blue collar dinner plate, while the rest of the party has went off into the loony lefty spiritual twilight zone. Hillary forgot that very important axiom he won two terms by.
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Looks like the last week was a holy terror for all who worked for Hillary.

I think every week was a holy terror for anybody who worked in the vicinity of Hillary.  Look out for flying stuff, including obscenities and real stuff, like lamps.

But they did make a mistake sidelining Bill who, despite his womanizing, is far more likable than his wife.
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As much as I can't stand Bill for many other things, he's always been a political realist that kept the issues connected to the blue collar dinner plate, while the rest of the party has went off into the loony lefty spiritual twilight zone. Hillary forgot that very important axiom he won two terms by.

As I've said before, I don't think Bill really wanted her to win.  I think he saw his legacy being destroyed by her incompetence and hubris.

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But they did make a mistake sidelining Bill who, despite his womanizing, is far more likable than his wife.

I think their calculus was that "likeable Bill" would more than anything emphasize "unpleasant, dishonest Hillary," and they were probably correct.  Also, Bill has a tendency to ramble off-message, and he really doesn't look at all well. 

Their campaign strategy -- and certainly the Podesta e-mails confirm it -- seems to have been built around minimizing the opportunities for Hillary's unpleasantness to shine.  Hence the tendency toward small, invitation-only campaign events.
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As I've said before, I don't think Bill really wanted her to win.  I think he saw his legacy being destroyed by her incompetence and hubris.

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Bill did his part.  He helped the Republicans nominate someone who would get less votes than John McCain did eight years prior.  Hillary was the one who blew it.  No wonder he was pissed.
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