Rudy Giuliani a finalist for secretary of state

[mystery-ak]

Rudy Giuliani a finalist for secretary of state

By Daniel Halper

November 14, 2016 | 5:24pm

Rudy Giuliani is in the running to become the next secretary of state.

The former New York City mayor is one of two candidates to be America’s top diplomat, according to The Wall Street Journal.

The other candidate is John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations and a former high ranking State Department official.

The final decision will come down to President-elect Donald Trump and his transition team, which has been considering candidates for top governmental positions since winning the Nov. 8 presidential election.

Giuliani, who has privately expressed interest in the job, played down what role he might play in the Trump administration in a weekend interview on ABC News.

“I have a very, very full life. So it would have to be something where I felt he really needed me and—not that I’d be the only one that could do it, but maybe that I could do it a little bit different or a little bit better than somebody else,” Giuliani said in the interview.

“I have a very, very full life. So it would have to be something where I felt he really needed me and—not that I’d be the only one that could do it, but maybe that I could do it a little bit different or a little bit better than somebody else,” Giuliani said in the interview.

[mystery-ak]

SOS....nooooo...I was hoping for AG...

[Norm Lenhart]

SOS....nooooo...I was hoping for AG...

Makes no sense. I am hoping it's 'just for the cameras'. He has Bolton and Guliani. He needs an AG and an SOS. It's not hard to put the round peg in the round hole.

[Gov Bean Counter]

Makes no sense. I am hoping it's 'just for the cameras'. He has Bolton and Guliani. He needs an AG and an SOS. It's not hard to put the round peg in the round hole.

Trump hires the best people
(but he doesn't always put them in the right place)

[mystery-ak]

Makes no sense. I am hoping it's 'just for the cameras'. He has Bolton and Guliani. He needs an AG and an SOS. It's not hard to put the round peg in the round hole.

From what I understand and have read Pence is helping with these picks...

[Norm Lenhart]

From what I understand and have read Pence is helping with these picks...

Still. I'm hoping that he's just putting names out there to run the media in circles because I can see no logic at all in having a man as qualified as Bolton replaced for the pic by a man infinitely better suited to AG...which he needs one of anyway.

Love Rudy or hate him, it would send one hell of a signal to wannabee terrorists and the DNC both (but I repeat myself that he was serious about justice RE Terror. It doen't add up to sideline him with SOS.

Likewise, Bolton is the best we have for the SOS job. He is knowledgable, good at what he does and respected/feared by UN types because he does not comply with their BS. If he was off the table thats one thing. But he's not.

[TomSea]

Let's not forget, NY was hit with a tragedy and Rudy helped immensely, he helped get the crime rate in NY down.  He's able likely on a few fronts. Good to see these guys do well.

Let's not forget when he was a candidate back in '08 or whenever.

[libertybele]

SOS....nooooo...I was hoping for AG...

Ted Cruz would make the perfect Attorney General; he would definitely "drain the swamp"!

[mystery-ak]

Ted Cruz would make the perfect Attorney General; he would definitely "drain the swamp"!

A good choice also...maybe Rudy for Homeland Security...I just don't see him as SOS...what am I missing?

[mountaineer]

I agree: Rudy is better for AG; Bolton for State.

[Frank Cannon]

This is just proof positive that Donny does a whole lotta crank. Rudy has absolutely no business anywhere near our foreign policy. None.

[Wingnut]

The swamp can't be drained.

[mountaineer]

How about Cruz or Giuliani for SCOTUS (preferably Cruz)?

[Chosen Daughter]

I wonder if this was what Franklin Graham and Michelle Bachman were talking about?

•OpEd: Compromise left all sides unhappy. (Aug 2009)
•Personally oppose abortion, but let the woman decide. (Dec 2007)
•Would probably not sign federal ban on all abortions. (Nov 2007)
•Ultimate decision by woman, her conscience & her doctor. (Aug 2007)
•2000: ran against Hillary as a pro-choice candidate. (Jul 2007)
•Allowing choice keeps government out of people’s lives. (May 2007)
•Seek bipartisan ways to reduce abortion & increase adoption. (May 2007)
•Forever against abortion; but respect others’ choice. (May 2007)
•Appoint constructionist judges, but no litmus test. (May 2007)
•Would personally advise women against abortion. (May 2007)
•1997:Supported partial birth; opposed parental notificiation. (May 2007)
•Would not oppose strong pro-life plank of GOP platform. (May 2007)
•Giuliani donated to Planned Parenthood throughout 1990s. (May 2007)
•Ok to repeal Roe v. Wade, but ok to view it as precedent too. (May 2007)
•Allow states to fund or not fund abortion. (May 2007)
•Encourage adoptions; ban partial-birth abortion. (May 2007)
•Embryonic stem cell research ok if limited properly. (May 2007)
•FactCheck: Encouraged adoptions; but over-stated results. (May 2007)
•As mayor, supported public funding for abortion. (Oct 2005)
•Pro-choice; no ban on partial-birth abortions. (Dec 1999)



•As mayor, suggested federal gun licensing. (Nov 2008)
•Government can impose reasonable regulations on guns. (Nov 2007)
•Focus on criminals, not on guns. (Sep 2007)
•NYC gun control laws made NYC safest big city in US. (Sep 2007)
•2nd Amendment gives people the individual right to bear arms. (May 2007)
•Supported nationwide licensing & assault weapons ban. (May 2007)
•Things you do in NY about guns may be different than TX. (May 2007)
•Gun control reduces urban crime; no effect on hunting. (Feb 2007)
•NYC sued two dozen major gun manufacturers and distributors. (Jun 2000)
•All gun owners should pass written test. (Mar 2000)

•China is a great opportunity and a great caution for the US. (Jan 2008)
•NAFTA has been a good thing and should be enforced. (Dec 2007)
•More trade with Qatar & emirates is good against terrorism. (Dec 2007)
•Good deals pending with Peru, Colombia, Panama, South Korea. (Oct 2007)
•Balance foreign debt by selling more things overseas. (Oct 2007)
•Take advantage of globalization--market US healthcare abroad. (Mar 2007)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Rudy_Giuliani.htm

[libertybele]

I wonder if this was what Franklin Graham and Michelle Bachman were talking about?

•OpEd: Compromise left all sides unhappy. (Aug 2009)
•Personally oppose abortion, but let the woman decide. (Dec 2007)
•Would probably not sign federal ban on all abortions. (Nov 2007)
•Ultimate decision by woman, her conscience & her doctor. (Aug 2007)
•2000: ran against Hillary as a pro-choice candidate. (Jul 2007)
•Allowing choice keeps government out of people’s lives. (May 2007)
•Seek bipartisan ways to reduce abortion & increase adoption. (May 2007)
•Forever against abortion; but respect others’ choice. (May 2007)
•Appoint constructionist judges, but no litmus test. (May 2007)
•Would personally advise women against abortion. (May 2007)
•1997:Supported partial birth; opposed parental notificiation. (May 2007)
•Would not oppose strong pro-life plank of GOP platform. (May 2007)
•Giuliani donated to Planned Parenthood throughout 1990s. (May 2007)
•Ok to repeal Roe v. Wade, but ok to view it as precedent too. (May 2007)
•Allow states to fund or not fund abortion. (May 2007)
•Encourage adoptions; ban partial-birth abortion. (May 2007)
•Embryonic stem cell research ok if limited properly. (May 2007)
•FactCheck: Encouraged adoptions; but over-stated results. (May 2007)
•As mayor, supported public funding for abortion. (Oct 2005)
•Pro-choice; no ban on partial-birth abortions. (Dec 1999)

Let's not forget his involvement in the proposed NAU, SPP and TTC.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/archive/index.php/t-3739.html

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/giuliani-linked-to-nafta-superhighway/

http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=1202552216932/Giulianis-ties-to-Houston-law-firm-gives-him-Texas-boost?slreturn=20161014224656

[Chosen Daughter]

Let's not forget his involvement in the proposed NAU, SPP and TTC.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/archive/index.php/t-3739.html

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/giuliani-linked-to-nafta-superhighway/

http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=1202552216932/Giulianis-ties-to-Houston-law-firm-gives-him-Texas-boost?slreturn=20161014224656

Yep while you were posting this I had gone back for the rest at Rudy Gulliani on the issues.  He's a NAFTA man alright.  He is gun control.  Well the Trump people just elected Liberalism.

[libertybele]

Yep while you were posting this I had gone back for the rest at Rudy Gulliani on the issues.  He's a NAFTA man alright.  He is gun control.  Well the Trump people just elected Liberalism.

I think Bachmann would make a much better Secretary of State.

[Chosen Daughter]

I think Bachmann would make a much better Secretary of State.

She would but he is going to fill his positions with liberals.  Gulliani isn't Conservative.  Bachman and Franklin the leading voices for God showed up at the election.

[libertybele]

She would but he is going to fill his positions with liberals.  Gulliani isn't Conservative.  Bachman and Franklin the leading voices for God showed up at the election.

Trump mentioned that he is going to create jobs by replacing our existing infrastructure; Giuliani would tend to make millions (as will Trump) via toll roads and hotels!

[Chosen Daughter]

Trump mentioned that he is going to create jobs by replacing our existing infrastructure; Giuliani would tend to make millions (as will Trump) via toll roads and hotels!

One of Obama's big thing was infrastructure too.  A good majority of the jobs go to illegals who have taken over construction jobs.  I posted an article about how there was no provisions in the bill at the time to make sure that Americans were getting the jobs.

Trump is doing exactly as he said he would do.  The only illegals on their way out are the ones who have committed crimes.

http://cis.org/SenateStimulus

[Suppressed]

Yep while you were posting this I had gone back for the rest at Rudy Gulliani on the issues.  He's a NAFTA man alright.  He is gun control.  Well the Trump people just elected Liberalism.

Reagan would be surprised to hear it implied that NAFTA is liberalism.

[Chosen Daughter]

Reagan would be surprised to hear it implied that NAFTA is liberalism.

Political favors
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/clinton-woos-republicans-to-secure-nafta-vote-president-offers-to-support-re-election-of-all-who-1504425.html

Many of the Republicans that voted for NAFTA are still holding Congressional or Senate seats.  So what about Trump?  He would undo NAFTA.  "Worst deal ever"  And drain the swamp has become live in it with the swamp inhabitants. 

The American workers voted for Trump because they believed he would be a jobs president.  But he is embracing the swamp that supported NAFTA.  People who make a living in manufacturing endured outsourcing and downsizing.  We saw our jobs disappear.  I guess Trump was against NAFTA and now he is for it.

And is Donald Trump for gun control or against it?  I am confused.

[Chosen Daughter]

Let's not forget his involvement in the proposed NAU, SPP and TTC.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/archive/index.php/t-3739.html

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/giuliani-linked-to-nafta-superhighway/

http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=1202552216932/Giulianis-ties-to-Houston-law-firm-gives-him-Texas-boost?slreturn=20161014224656

Further comment on the Super Highway.  I think Trump pulled the art of the deal on the American people.  He did go to Mexico and told the Mexican President that NAFTA needed to be renegotiated.  I wonder when the smoke clears if Americans will be on the winning end of negotiations?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Political favors
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/clinton-woos-republicans-to-secure-nafta-vote-president-offers-to-support-re-election-of-all-who-1504425.html

Many of the Republicans that voted for NAFTA are still holding Congressional or Senate seats.  So what about Trump?  He would undo NAFTA.  "Worst deal ever"  And drain the swamp has become live in it with the swamp inhabitants. 

The American workers voted for Trump because they believed he would be a jobs president.  But he is embracing the swamp that supported NAFTA.  People who make a living in manufacturing endured outsourcing and downsizing.  We saw our jobs disappear.  I guess Trump was against NAFTA and now he is for it.

And is Donald Trump for gun control or against it?  I am confused.

You're economically ignorant if you think repealing NAFTA would lead to more jobs.

[mountaineer]

   November 15, 2016 8:49 am
Rand Paul: Will Donald Trump betray voters by hiring John Bolton?
RARE

Rumors are that Donald Trump might pick John Bolton for Secretary of State. Heaven forbid.

One of the things I occasionally liked about the President-elect was his opposition to the Iraq war and regime change. He not only grasped the mistake of that war early, but also seemed to fully understand how it disrupted the balance of power in the Middle East and even emboldened Iran.

We liberated Iraq, but today their best friend is Iran, their second greatest ally is Russia, and their third strongest alliance is with Syria. Trump really seems to get the lesson. Hillary Clinton never did.

Most importantly right now, John Bolton never learned and never will.

Bolton is a longtime member of the failed Washington elite that Trump vowed to oppose, hell-bent on repeating virtually every foreign policy mistake the U.S. has made in the last 15 years — particularly those Trump promised to avoid as president.

John Bolton more often stood with Hillary Clinton and against what Donald Trump has advised.

None of this is secret. It’s all out there. Perhaps the incoming administration should take a closer look.

Bolton was one of the loudest advocates of overthrowing Saddam Hussein and still stupefyingly insists it was the right call 13 years later. “I still think the decision to overthrow Saddam was correct,” Bolton said just last year.

Trump, rightly, believes that decision was a colossal mistake that destabilized the region. “Iraq used to be no terrorists,” Trump said in 2015. “(N)ow it’s the Harvard of terrorism.”

“If you look at Iraq from years ago, I’m not saying he was a nice guy, he was a horrible guy,” Trump said of Saddam Hussein, “but it was a lot better than it is right now.”

Trump has said U.S. intervention in Iraq in 2003 “helped to throw the region into chaos and gave ISIS the space it needs to grow and prosper.” In contrast, Bolton has said explicitly that he wants to repeat Iraq-style regime change in Syrian and Iran.

You can’t learn from mistakes if you don’t see mistakes.

Trump has blamed George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton for helping to create ISIS — but should add John Bolton to that list, who essentially agreed with all three on our regime change debacles.

In 2011, Bolton bashed Obama “for his refusal to directly target Gaddafi” and declared, “there is a strategic interest in toppling Gaddafi… But Obama missed it.” In fact, Obama actually took Bolton’s advice and bombed the Libyan dictator into the next world. Secretary of State Clinton bragged, “We came, we saw, he died.”

When Trump was asked last year if Libya and the region would be more stable today with Gaddafi in power, he replied “100 percent.” Mr. Trump is 100 percent right.

No man is more out of touch with the situation in the Middle East or more dangerous to our national security than Bolton.   

Read the rest.