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Ryan won't commit to passing Trump tariff plan
« on: November 13, 2016, 09:01:22 pm »
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Ryan won't commit to passing Trump tariff plan

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Paul Ryan and Donald Trump disagree on taxing businesses in order to make them conduct business in a way that benefits the American worker. Source: CNN

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Re: Ryan won't commit to passing Trump tariff plan
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2016, 10:01:10 pm »
It may be the Congressional GOP that ends up saving Trump from himself
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Re: Ryan won't commit to passing Trump tariff plan
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2016, 10:10:54 pm »
Ryan will be replaced as Speaker if he keeps this up.

Can't wait... :pop41:

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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2016, 10:24:42 pm »
I hope this is a sign that Congressional Republicans are going to be a check on Trump's big government dreams.

They'll need to say no to Trump's "infrastructure" stimulus spending plans
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Re: Ryan won't commit to passing Trump tariff plan
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2016, 10:27:38 pm »
Ryan will be replaced as Speaker if he keeps this up.

Can't wait... :pop41:
Paul Ryan got more votes this year than he did in 2014 and 2012.  I guess the fact that he wasn't thrilled by the Donald didn't hurt him after all.  The tRumpsters tried really hard to get him defeated but I guess the people in his district didn't care.  I think he'll be just fine. :whistle:

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Re: Ryan won't commit to passing Trump tariff plan
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2016, 10:33:50 pm »
Ryan will be replaced as Speaker if he keeps this up.

Can't wait... :pop41:

I'm willing to bet he wins re-election to Speaker easily.

But you never bet, so I suspect you know that too.
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2016, 12:03:02 am »
Paul Ryan got more votes this year than he did in 2014 and 2012.  I guess the fact that he wasn't thrilled by the Donald didn't hurt him after all.  The tRumpsters tried really hard to get him defeated but I guess the people in his district didn't care.  I think he'll be just fine. :whistle:

Yup.

I remember when Ryan was suppose to go down in defeat in his primary contest according to the FR population :silly:
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Re: Ryan won't commit to passing Trump tariff plan
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2016, 12:06:46 am »
I'm willing to bet he wins re-election to Speaker easily.

But you never bet, so I suspect you know that too.

I'm not especially fond of Ryan but I suspect he'll be reelected to the speakership easily.

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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2016, 12:30:24 am »
I'm not especially fond of Ryan but I suspect he'll be reelected to the speakership easily.

I think you're right and I think the Pubs are going to back Trump on everything, except term limits. They love their jobs and know they will lose the majority in the House in 2018 if they undercut him. Also, they know Trump is "malleable" and will bend on things they want to get what he wants.

The Rats only hope is if the Pubs openly fight Trump. They are moving even further left (if that were possible) and look to lose a lot seats in the Senate in 2018. If the Pubs are smart (I know a big question) they will back Trump and push border security, visa security, e-verify, tax reform, obamacare repeal, and entitlement reform all in the first 6 months. It's not like they are starting from scratch. They've been proposing bills covering all these things for 8 years. Now's the time!
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Re: Ryan won't commit to passing Trump tariff plan
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2016, 12:37:08 am »
I think you're right and I think the Pubs are going to back Trump on everything, except term limits. They love their jobs and know they will lose the majority in the House in 2018 if they undercut him. Also, they know Trump is "malleable" and will bend on things they want to get what he wants.

The Rats only hope is if the Pubs openly fight Trump. They are moving even further left (if that were possible) and look to lose a lot seats in the Senate in 2018. If the Pubs are smart (I know a big question) they will back Trump and push border security, visa security, e-verify, tax reform, obamacare repeal, and entitlement reform all in the first 6 months. It's not like they are starting from scratch. They've been proposing bills covering all these things for 8 years. Now's the time!

Trump does not favor entitlement reform.  There will be no repeal of Obamacare, just tweaking.

If the Republicans don't fight Trump on his luddite trade policies,  the resulting recession will make 2020 look like 2008 for the GOP.

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Re: Ryan won't commit to passing Trump tariff plan
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2016, 12:44:57 am »
Trump does not favor entitlement reform.  There will be no repeal of Obamacare, just tweaking.

If the Republicans don't fight Trump on his luddite trade policies,  the resulting recession will look like 2008 for the GOP.

Entitlement reform is going to be required if obamacare is repealed (which it will be). The obamacare death panels that would decide benefit allocations also covers medicare.

The Trump trade policies will in the end work out because nations will cut back on their currency manipulation and with low corporate taxes the need to relocate will be greatly diminished.

I'm willing to give Trump 6 months after he's sworn in to show what he's really going to do. During this time I'll avoid condemning his every move. Will you do the same?
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2016, 12:50:33 am »
Entitlement reform is going to be required if obamacare is repealed (which it will be). The obamacare death panels that would decide benefit allocations also covers medicare.

The Trump trade policies will in the end work out because nations will cut back on their currency manipulation and with low corporate taxes the need to relocate will be greatly diminished.

I'm willing to give Trump 6 months after he's sworn in to show what he's really going to do. During this time I'll avoid condemning his every move. Will you do the same?

No reputable trade economist thinks imposing tariffs will do anything but result in a trade war, which will destroy as many as 6 million jobs in the exporting industry.

It's not about taxes. It's about the cost of labor.  And labor costs in America are too high, even if corporate taxes are zero.  Trump says he'll "bring jobs back."  He can't do that.  You know that.  I know that.

Trump has no guiding philosophy other than his lazy brand of populism.  He doesn't know what he's doing, and Peter Navarro (his trade advisor) is ridiculed by most economists.

Criticism is part of the job if you're president.  When he's wrong, he's wrong.

Did you hold off criticizing Obama when his first thing out of the chute was a $1 trillion stimulus?  I didn't, and I won't give Trump any grace either.
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Re: Ryan won't commit to passing Trump tariff plan
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2016, 03:17:16 am »
I'm willing to bet he wins re-election to Speaker easily.

But you never bet, so I suspect you know that too.

If Trump wants Ryan gone he will be voted out, so don't kid yourself.

-btw you should have followed my advice and taken the landslide bet over at Predictit, it paid off 6:1.

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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2016, 03:24:24 am »

It's not about taxes. It's about the cost of labor.  And labor costs in America are too high, even if corporate taxes are zero.  Trump says he'll "bring jobs back."  He can't do that.  You know that.  I know that.

Exactly right. if Tennis shoes can be made in the Philippines for $5 a day, that's what an American who works in a factory that makes Tennis shoes is worth.

It's a changing economy that some are having difficulty adapting to.  Watch the movie "Other people's Money" with Danny Devito in that scene were Gregory Peck's character and Danny Devito's each make their pleas

Democrats and Republicans always make these promises to the good folks in these jobs, esp in the Rust Belt
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Re: Ryan won't commit to passing Trump tariff plan
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2016, 03:57:00 am »
I hope to hell congress puts a stop to any proposals that include tariffs.  Tariffs are the absolute last thing we need in this country right now.  Lower corporate taxes, lower government spending, get the federal budget under control, invest in infrastructure that will boost economic growth, but please stay away from tariffs.  We are leaders in the global economy and our currency is the world's default currency only because we are the most free nation on earth when it comes to trade.  If we start erecting trade barriers we will lower our own standard of living and begin the descent of the king dollar in international markets.  Dumb move.

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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2016, 04:29:18 am »
I hope to hell congress puts a stop to any proposals that include tariffs.  Tariffs are the absolute last thing we need in this country right now.  Lower corporate taxes, lower government spending, get the federal budget under control, invest in infrastructure that will boost economic growth, but please stay away from tariffs.  We are leaders in the global economy and our currency is the world's default currency only because we are the most free nation on earth when it comes to trade.  If we start erecting trade barriers we will lower our own standard of living and begin the descent of the king dollar in international markets.  Dumb move.

Dumb move, indeed.  His Democrat roots are showing.  Leave it to a former casino owner to rig things so the house wins every time.

The natural order of a free market is the closest thing to an "unrigged" system there might be.

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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2016, 04:41:05 am »
This one of many moments were we will be thankful we have a GOP House and Senate
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2016, 04:51:18 am »
Ryan will be replaced as Speaker if he keeps this up.

Can't wait... :pop41:

Yes because anyone who tries to save Dear Leader from himself must be purged!

The GOP and the hardcore Trump supporters are  becoming a parody of the DNC and DU.

Sad really...
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2016, 04:53:03 am »
If Trump wants Ryan gone he will be voted out, so don't kid yourself.

-btw you should have followed my advice and taken the landslide bet over at Predictit, it paid off 6:1.

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You really have no clue how the process works do you?

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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2016, 05:24:50 am »
If Trump wants Ryan gone he will be voted out, so don't kid yourself.

-btw you should have followed my advice and taken the landslide bet over at Predictit, it paid off 6:1.

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Is that another threat of personal violence?  Is Trump going to have him taken out back and shot?

If not, then Trump can't do diddly.

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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2016, 07:52:06 am »
Exactly right. if Tennis shoes can be made in the Philippines for $5 a day, that's what an American who works in a factory that makes Tennis shoes is worth.

Actually, less than that, since American workers insist on OSHA and EPA protections, etc.  Therefore, American wages must be lower, to come up with a market labor cost when you acount for these costs.
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2016, 11:15:38 am »
You really have no clue how the process works do you?

Similar to those people who are demanding an end to the Electoral College.
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2016, 11:39:47 am »
Similar to those people who are demanding an end to the Electoral College.

You mean Trump?  :silly:

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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2016, 04:48:26 pm »
Yes because anyone who tries to save Dear Leader from himself must be purged!

In your hallucination...maybe.

Thankfully we don't live in such a fantasy world.

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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2016, 04:54:08 pm »
You really have no clue how the process works do you?

In your fantasy world...no I don't.  :laugh: