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Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)

by IWB · Published November 12, 2016 · Updated November 12, 2016

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Donald Trump Officially Wins Michigan; Voting Margin Less Than A Half Percent « CBS Detroit http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/11/09/donald-trump-officially-wins-michigan-voting-margin-less-than-a-half-percent/

    It’s official: The majority of Michigan voters elected Donald Trump to be the nation’s next president.

    According to election totals, Trump won Michigan by .28 percent of the vote — roughly 13,000 votes.

    “The vote was 47.59 to Trump and 47.31 for Hillary Clinton,” WWJ Lansing Bureau Chief said live on WWJ Newsradio. “The 16 electoral votes for Michigan go to Donald Trump and the Republicans, the first time that’s happened since 1988.”

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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2016, 03:52:34 pm »
I thought Michigan was already called for him anyways
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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2016, 04:35:49 pm »
306 is not landslide.

Obama got 332 in 2012.
Obama got 365 in 2008.
[Bush barely wins two elections. Like barely.]
Clinton got 379 in 1996. (much more like a landslide)
Clinton got 370 in 1992.
George HW Bush got 426 in 1988 (LANDSLIDE).
Reagan got 525 in 1984 (Unprecedented landslide BLOWOUT!)
Reagan got 489 in 1980 (Landslide!)

Trump eked this out,but it was no landslide. Not as badly as Bush barely eked out his two victories, but we should start to recognize that after the Reagan years, Democrats have been winning by wider margins than Republicans.
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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2016, 04:36:11 pm »
I thought Michigan was already called for him anyways

Nope.  This is new.  AZ was just called yesterday, which brought the total to 290.  I think NH still remains.
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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2016, 04:38:45 pm »
Lots of states under a 5% spread. Many under 2%.

Not a landslide, no more than Obama's '12 win was a landslide, as the media tried to portray.
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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2016, 07:06:40 pm »
Seriously, the more I think about this, the more annoyed it makes me.

Keep on thinking Trump won a LANDSLIDE YUGE VICTORY! All you are doing is setting yourself for a major defeat in the future. Trump won with numbers closer to Bush than Reagan. Keep that in mind. Reagan laid out a passionate case for conservatism. Trump started out as a NY liberal and edged his way to more conservative views but is willing to negotiate just about anything.

If you want conservatism to gain the kind of support it did during the Reagan years, you have to recognize that the approach Trump is taking - while a winning strategy - is NOT a landslide strategy. I suppose you can be content with that, but I want to give you one more set of numbers to chew on:

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Clinton 61.5%
Trump 33.2%
- Clinton +28.3%

TX
Trump 52.6%
Clinton 43.4%
- Trump +9.2%

Pay close attention. Liberal bastions are actual bastions. The GOP is holding on to TX by a mere 2.6% over majority. The spread in CA is 3x that in TX.

Ask yourself how much harder it would be to shift CA to red than TX to blue. Then take a look at some other big electoral states that Trump relied on. Close, close, close. What happens to conservatism if TX ever becomes a swing state?

This is not a landslide and anyone who rests on their laurels thinking it is a simply a fool who is going to get crushed as the dems continue to exploit changing demographics in this country.
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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2016, 07:15:51 pm »
Sweet...I wagered the election would result in a landslide over at Predictit a couple of months ago and got 6:1 odds.

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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2016, 07:38:13 pm »
My number for calling it a landslide is twice the opponent or 360 electors.
306 is a solid win and congratulations to Trump.  I would even say that there is enough votes to call it a mandate.  But landslide is a bit if a reach.

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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2016, 07:42:29 pm »


This is not a landslide and anyone who rests on their laurels thinking it is a simply a fool who is going to get crushed as the dems continue to exploit changing demographics in this country.

With the Demographics in this country today, there is no way a Conservative could ever win in a Landslide, this is just going to have to do.

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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2016, 07:55:00 pm »
306 is hardly a landslide. 

But you can bet if Hillary had won by that amount the left would be labeling it so.
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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2016, 07:57:40 pm »
Even true believer FReepers are calling this article into question at this point.

Michigan SoS website numbers have not changed since two days ago:

http://miboecfr.nictusa.com/election/results/2016GEN_CENR.html

Second, investmentwatchblog is a clickbait website, no other source on the internet reports this, using all the different search engines to find anything.

The original article refers to this Detroit radio station as their source, but THAT story is datelined THREE days ago:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/11/09/donald-trump-officially-wins-michigan-voting-margin-less-than-a-half-percent/

AND THAT story self-refers to ANOTHER story from the same radio station from THREE days ago that make the UNOFFICIAL claim that Trump won Michigan.

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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2016, 08:13:32 pm »
Even true believer FReepers are calling this article into question at this point.

Michigan SoS website numbers have not changed since two days ago:

http://miboecfr.nictusa.com/election/results/2016GEN_CENR.html

Second, investmentwatchblog is a clickbait website, no other source on the internet reports this, using all the different search engines to find anything.

The original article refers to this Detroit radio station as their source, but THAT story is datelined THREE days ago:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/11/09/donald-trump-officially-wins-michigan-voting-margin-less-than-a-half-percent/

AND THAT story self-refers to ANOTHER story from the same radio station from THREE days ago that make the UNOFFICIAL claim that Trump won Michigan.

FWIW, AP still has not called Michigan.  AZ is called, though, and that's a total of 290 EVs.  One can argue "What's a landslide?" but it really doesn't matter. 
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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2016, 03:39:36 am »
bolobaby asks:
"Ask yourself how much harder it would be to shift CA to red than TX to blue. Then take a look at some other big electoral states that Trump relied on. Close, close, close. What happens to conservatism if TX ever becomes a swing state?"

Looking at the numbers in your post, it should be obvious that Texas has already become "a swing state".

How much longer before it "swings" to the blue...?

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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2016, 03:45:03 am »
Just like Donny. Showboating with winning states he doesn't need. How distasteful.

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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2016, 03:52:55 am »
Just like Donny. Showboating with winning states he doesn't need. How distasteful.

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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2016, 03:55:31 am »
Seriously, the more I think about this, the more annoyed it makes me.

Keep on thinking Trump won a LANDSLIDE YUGE VICTORY! All you are doing is setting yourself for a major defeat in the future. Trump won with numbers closer to Bush than Reagan. Keep that in mind. Reagan laid out a passionate case for conservatism. Trump started out as a NY liberal and edged his way to more conservative views but is willing to negotiate just about anything.

If you want conservatism to gain the kind of support it did during the Reagan years, you have to recognize that the approach Trump is taking - while a winning strategy - is NOT a landslide strategy. I suppose you can be content with that, but I want to give you one more set of numbers to chew on:

CA
Clinton 61.5%
Trump 33.2%
- Clinton +28.3%

TX
Trump 52.6%
Clinton 43.4%
- Trump +9.2%

Pay close attention. Liberal bastions are actual bastions. The GOP is holding on to TX by a mere 2.6% over majority. The spread in CA is 3x that in TX.

Ask yourself how much harder it would be to shift CA to red than TX to blue. Then take a look at some other big electoral states that Trump relied on. Close, close, close. What happens to conservatism if TX ever becomes a swing state?

This is not a landslide and anyone who rests on their laurels thinking it is a simply a fool who is going to get crushed as the dems continue to exploit changing demographics in this country.

The only fly in that is that Trump would  have won Texas by a much larger margin had Texas not set a record for third party and write in votes this time around.
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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2016, 03:59:14 am »
bolobaby asks:
"Ask yourself how much harder it would be to shift CA to red than TX to blue. Then take a look at some other big electoral states that Trump relied on. Close, close, close. What happens to conservatism if TX ever becomes a swing state?"

Looking at the numbers in your post, it should be obvious that Texas has already become "a swing state".

How much longer before it "swings" to the blue...?


    Hillary didn't turn Texas purple, Trump did.  3rd party Alternatives even turned Tom 'The Hammer' Delays  Fort bend County in Texas to Blue, that's significant.
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Re: Landslide Approved! Trump Officially Wins Michigan (306 Electors!)
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2016, 04:20:54 am »
:laugh:

Geez. I made you laugh. Something is out of balance now. I'm gonna have to go insult you on another thread.