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Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« on: November 11, 2016, 08:38:58 am »


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Donald Trump has selected one of the best-known climate skeptics to lead his U.S. EPA transition team, according to two sources close to the campaign.

Myron Ebell, director of the Center for Energy and Environment at the conservative Competitive Enterprise Institute, is spearheading Trump’s transition plans for EPA, the sources said.

Ebell is a well-known and polarizing figure in the energy and environment realm. His participation in the EPA transition signals that the Trump team is looking to drastically reshape the climate policies the agency has pursued under the Obama administration. Ebell’s role is likely to infuriate environmentalists and Democrats but buoy critics of Obama’s climate rules.
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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2016, 11:54:42 am »
Sorry Bill Nye.

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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2016, 11:54:44 am »
"skeptic" - aka actual scientist
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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2016, 12:01:23 pm »
As Trump picks his people my anxiety subsides.


My biggest fear is that he fills his cabinet with Alex Jones loonies or his family members (as his son-in-law was floated as a name for something or other last night).

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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2016, 12:13:30 pm »
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-picks-top-climate-skeptic-to-lead-epa-transition/?wt.mc=SA_Twitter-Share#

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Good start with the first drain plug being yanked out of the swamp.  Dismantling the EPA Gestapho will be a wonderful move.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2016, 12:27:33 pm »
Good  start
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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2016, 01:08:25 pm »
We need a Trump score board. The good and the bad.

This good, real good.

How about, The Good. The Bad, and The ugly.

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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2016, 02:37:47 pm »
Anthropogenic climate change ,or global warming ,or climate crisis, whatever they want to call it at any given moment is definitely an elite cause. Not so much with everybody else because they have to live with the policies that are implemented

Does this mean now no more threats of arrest for anybody who is skeptical of Anthropogenic climate change
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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2016, 02:42:39 pm »
We need a Trump score board. The good and the bad.

This good, real good.

This alone demonstrates the absurdity of NEVERTRUMP.  Would Hillary have done such a thing?  Trump may not be ideological, but he is a businessman with a keen sense of who his customers are and what they want.  If that is the case, it is good enough for me.

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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2016, 04:08:10 pm »
This alone demonstrates the absurdity of NEVERTRUMP.  Would Hillary have done such a thing?  Trump may not be ideological, but he is a businessman with a keen sense of who his customers are and what they want.  If that is the case, it is good enough for me.

This looks like a good move on his part and I am happy about it.

That said, based on his actual history, Nevertrump, nor YOU had any reason to believe he would or will continue to make good choices. Lets all hope he does.

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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2016, 04:20:17 pm »
Anthropogenic climate change ,or global warming ,or climate crisis, whatever they want to call it at any given moment is definitely an elite cause.

It's a perfect issue for those interested in gaining real power.  This is an issue that is portrayed as a truly existential threat -- actually the end of the world as we know it -- and as such can be used as leverage for taking extreme measures.

It's also where the confluence of science, politics, money, and public acclaim converge -- Bill Nye being the poster boy.  Honest discussion has no place in such an environment.


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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2016, 04:23:15 pm »
This alone demonstrates the absurdity of NEVERTRUMP.  Would Hillary have done such a thing?  Trump may not be ideological, but he is a businessman with a keen sense of who his customers are and what they want.  If that is the case, it is good enough for me.

I'm unchanged in my assessment of Trump's fitness for office (or lack thereof); his temperament is demonstrably unsuited to the sorts of behavior a president must have.

That said, if he picks good people and actually listens to them; and if his team can keep his public utterances under some semblance of control, it will go a long way toward making me feel more optimistic about the next four years.

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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2016, 04:26:04 pm »
We need a Trump score board. The good and the bad.

This good, real good.

Agree.  I was shocked and very pleased.  Trump went head on at the climate crazies and that is one big checkmark for Trump.
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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2016, 04:38:18 pm »
....If his team can keep his public utterances under some semblance of control, it will go a long way toward making me feel more optimistic about the next four years.

I have been thinking about that, and it seems to me his public utterances have been calculated to give his enemies something to chew on while he goes about the business of "winning" whatever it is that is in his sights.  It is a common management tactic.

If this is the case, then if you pay attention to what he says rather than what he does, you are following the decoy.
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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2016, 04:55:04 pm »
I have been thinking about that, and it seems to me his public utterances have been calculated to give his enemies something to chew on while he goes about the business of "winning" whatever it is that is in his sights.  It is a common management tactic.

If this is the case, then if you pay attention to what he says rather than what he does, you are following the decoy.

This isn't business, though -- it's politics: "the art of the possible."  In politics a great deal hinges on what one says; and any difference between what is said and what is actually done, is fodder for the opposition.

Besides all that, to the extent that Trump's behavior drives the media narrative, his ability to get things done will suffer accordingly. 

My view of him is unchanged: that he's a thin-skinned and undisciplined narcissist.  His behavior during the election established that beyond a shadow of a doubt.  Thus my lack of confidence in him being able to reign in his behavior for the good of the country, and even the world.

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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2016, 04:57:17 pm »
So far so good. Gotta give credit where credit is due.
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2016, 04:59:49 pm »
I have been thinking about that, and it seems to me his public utterances have been calculated to give his enemies something to chew on while he goes about the business of "winning" whatever it is that is in his sights.  It is a common management tactic.

If this is the case, then if you pay attention to what he says rather than what he does, you are following the decoy.

Thats why during the campaign, we Nevertrumpers preached on his record. And why his fanatics preached on 'listen to what he says'.

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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2016, 05:12:02 pm »
This looks like a good move on his part and I am happy about it.

That said, based on his actual history, Nevertrump, nor YOU had any reason to believe he would or will continue to make good choices. Lets all hope he does.

Actually we did. And we told you why, but the Never Trumpers were too busy screaming bile laced tirades at everyone to listen.

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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2016, 05:13:25 pm »
Actually we did. And we told you why, but the Never Trumpers were too busy screaming bile laced tirades at everyone to listen.


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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2016, 05:15:13 pm »
Actually we did. And we told you why, but the Never Trumpers were too busy screaming bile laced tirades at everyone to listen.

No you didn't. You projected what you hoped for. His record and his support is on the left. History is what it is. If he moves right, America  benefits.

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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2016, 05:15:45 pm »
Thats why during the campaign, we Nevertrumpers preached on his record. And why his fanatics preached on 'listen to what he says'.

You lost because you were too busy screaming bile laced tirades rather then listening to anything that challenged your dogmas. You did "preach on his record". The Never Trumpers merely screamed in horror that that their precious GOP Country Club was being invaded by that crude lewd dirty unwashed peasant Trump.

It was a live re-enactment of the move Caddy Shack.

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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2016, 05:17:43 pm »
No you didn't. You projected what you hoped for. His record and his support is on the left. History is what it is. If he moves right, America  benefits.

No,  I actually looked at the guy and his record and evolved instead of clinging to my knee jerk distaste for his bombastic politcal style. I looked past the surface and saw the substance. You all never looked beyond the surface.

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Re: Trump Picks Top Climate Skeptic to Lead EPA Transition
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2016, 05:17:58 pm »
Let's all stop reliving the past..it's over

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