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SOURCE: WASHINGTON POST

URL: http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/11/the_remarkably_thin_democratic.html

by: Chris Cillizza



When she dropped out of the Democratic presidential race in 2008, Hillary Clinton uttered these now-famous words: "Although we weren't able to shatter that highest, hardest glass ceiling this time, thanks to you, it's got about 18 million cracks in it, and the light is shining through like never before, filling us all with the hope and the sure knowledge that the path will be a little easier next time."

It's hard to imagine that on that day Clinton thought she would be the one treading the path the "next time." After all, she was 61 years old and had watched her frontrunning campaign collapse when faced with the natural political talent of Barack Obama. But, six years later, as Obama's term entered its final turn and Democrats began seriously thinking about the 2016 election, there was Clinton. Again.

At the time, Clinton's status as the lone serious Democratic candidate in the 2016 field was touted as a virtue by party insiders. No primary! And she's by far our best candidate anyway, they argued.

The truth -- as exposed by Clinton's stunning loss to Donald Trump on Tuesday night -- was that the Democratic bench was (and is) remarkably thin, a sign of both the relative ill health of the party downballot and the isolated appeal of Obama.

Think about it: Why was Clinton essentially handed the nomination in early 2015? After all, she had failed once already as a frontrunner in 2008. And, she represented a political theory -- Clintonism -- that was clearly running out of gas in an increasingly tribal and polarized political world. Not to mention that she would be 68 years old on election day 2016, not exactly the next generation of leadership for the party.

The reason for the "Clinton or bust" strategy was simple: There simply wasn't anyone else. Vice President Joe Biden was a possibility but the death of his oldest son, Beau, in May 2015 effectively sidelined him. (And, at 73 years old, Biden isn't exactly a spring chicken.) Beyond Biden and Clinton, name someone else who looked ready to make a serious run at a national nomination. There isn't anyone. (Trust me, I have thought about virtually every possibility.)

Contrast that to what the Republican field looked like as the 2016 election shaped up: A dozen and a half candidates including a handful of 40-something rising stars (Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz) as well as a number of other prominent voices (Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, John Kasich) within the national party who had deep and impressive resumes. And a true outsider who was making his first run for president.

That Trump beat all of them is the lasting takeaway for most people. But, in retrospect, the size of the GOP field -- for which the party was relentlessly mocked -- was also a sign of the party's health up and down the ballot. Democrats heading into 2016 simply didn't have the depth of political talent to put 10 or 12 serious candidates forward. And so they lined up behind Clinton.

Clinton's loss exposes the thinness of the Democratic bench. But it doesn't solve the problem.

As it became increasingly clear Clinton would lose on Tuesday night, names began to bubble up as potential 2020 Democratic candidates. Michelle Obama, who has never held or run for office, was the name I heard most. Kamala Harris, who won a California Senate seat Tuesday night(!), was also mentioned. So, too, was Cory Booker, who has been in the Senate for just three years. The other names -- Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota -- are intriguing candidates but almost entirely unknown even among Democrats nationally.

One of the untold stories of the Obama presidency is how singular his victory was. Yes, Obama won over 330 electoral votes twice. But his success at the ballot box was never transferrable. Democrats lost badly in the Senate and House in 2010 and 2014. And the damage done even further down the ballot was more grave; Democrats lost more than 900 state legislative seats in those two elections.

The result of Obama's lonely victories -- coupled with a VP pick in Biden who was not an obvious successor given his age -- was a defaulting to Clinton in 2016. And, in the wake of her stunning loss Tuesday night, there's a remarkable paucity of obvious 2020 candidates waiting on the Democratic bench. That's a major problem for the party which now finds itself out of the White House for the next four years.

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They are going to beg President Obama to return to the Senate.

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Well they got rid of one of the two worst presidential candidates in history, so there is nowhere to go but up..

The GOP is stuck with the other one, so I'm not sure they have room to talk :shrug:

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The DNC is considering Keith Ellison, peace be upon him, and screaming Howard Dean, recycled to head the DNC.

Both come from the diversity obsessed left wing of the left wing democrat party.

I encourage them to act thusly, after losing a national election due to their lack of appeal with white people.
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The DNC is considering Keith Ellison, peace be upon him, and screaming Howard Dean, recycled to head the DNC.

Both come from the diversity obsessed left wing of the left wing democrat party.

I encourage them to act thusly, after losing a national election due to their lack of appeal with white people.

Absolutely. Plus the twitter wars between Trump and Dean will knock SNL off the air. No need for more entertainment.

All kidding aside though I could get a warm and fuzzy watching Dean as the DNC head being given daily doses of his own medicine and Ellison being handed his ass by pretty much everyone else.

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The reason for the "Clinton or bust" strategy was simple: There simply wasn't anyone else. Vice President Joe Biden was a possibility but the death of his oldest son, Beau, in May 2015 effectively sidelined him. (And, at 73 years old, Biden isn't exactly a spring chicken.) Beyond Biden and Clinton, name someone else who looked ready to make a serious run at a national nomination. There isn't anyone. (Trust me, I have thought about virtually every possibility.)

It's amazing how that entire article was written without once mentioning, or even alluding to, Bernie Sanders, as if he never even ran.

He himself is probably too old, but the beacon call of "democratic socialism" (which, as I've mused before, is 51% of the people deciding they have the right to the other 49%'s assets) has been established, and whoever rises—be it one of the Castro boys, or Warren, or Ellison, or whoever—will take pages from Bernie.
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The remarkably thin Democratic bench just got badly exposed

It is far worse than even they imagine! 
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They are going to beg President Obama to return to the Senate.

Maybe, but he wouldn't do it.  It would be a step down and he would be serving under Trump.

Now, Michelle might do it.
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It is far worse than even they imagine!
I hate when Democrats expose themselves. But in several liberal cities it's perfectly legal. Scares the children though. And yea, its usually worse than we can imagine. Peliosi, Debbiecakes...

WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN??????

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It does look like they're putting her out on the front lines for now...  Pitiful.

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It's amazing how that entire article was written without once mentioning, or even alluding to, Bernie Sanders, as if he never even ran.

He himself is probably too old, but the beacon call of "democratic socialism" (which, as I've mused before, is 51% of the people deciding they have the right to the other 49%'s assets) has been established, and whoever rises—be it one of the Castro boys, or Warren, or Ellison, or whoever—will take pages from Bernie.

Excellent observation.  Had he done so, however, it would have transferred his point from discussing a lack of plausible candidates, to discussing a shift in the party's principles (such as they are) and its attendant alienation of centrist voters. 

In many ways Sanders was a disheveled version of Donald Trump -- a man whose appeal was not so much in his policies, as it was his willingness to speak truth about Clinton and American politics in general.  He was wrong about a lot, but (like Trump) very few were seriously judging him on his policy positions.  They were more interested in upsetting the status quo.

Whoever rises from that wing of the Democrat party will get a certain following, but with Clinton's defeat the moment that made Sanders look appealing, is gone (for now).  It's up to Trump to give them traction, or not.

Cillizza is writing about the Democrat party as if it's the same one his dad and grandfather knew; but of course it's not.  The lack of talent on the Democrat bench is indicative of the lack of principle within the party itself.  The Democrats have become the party of the very rich and very influential.  The national party is about power and niche issues; there's no soaring rhetoric or grand ideals from them -- it's just tawdry lies, opportunistic scavenging of issues, and transparent political maneuvering.

It's interesting to me that the GOP is suffering from a similar illness: Trump was only possible because the party itself has been trying to play the Democrats' game, and doing it badly.  Trump, for all his many failings, succeeded in speaking truth to power about things that matter to normal people.  The GOP had no defense against him, because on a national level it likewise lacks any particular principles or goals.  The fact that there are able young Republicans is encouraging, but unless the party can decide what it's actually for, and can articulate it in ways that people understand, it's only a few years behind the Democrats.

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The DNC is considering Keith Ellison, peace be upon him, and screaming Howard Dean, recycled to head the DNC.

If the Dims put Howard Dean back in as head of DNC it would signal they haven't learned anything from this election.


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If the Dims put Howard Dean back in as head of DNC it would signal they haven't learned anything from this election.

They haven't learned anything from it. 

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It is far worse than even they imagine!

I'll say. Their leadership is as old as the dinosaurs and their supporters are ineffectual snowflakes crying at the local Starbucks.

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Bernie has not ruled out another run and there is always Michelle and Chelsea. :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
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... and there is always Michelle and Chelsea. :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:

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Made me laugh!
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It's amazing how that entire article was written without once mentioning, or even alluding to, Bernie Sanders, as if he never even ran.

Yeah, had it not been rigged Bernie would have won.

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Maybe, but he wouldn't do it.  It would be a step down and he would be serving under Trump.

Now, Michelle might do it.

I'm thinking Zero wants to be king of the UN.

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I'm thinking Zero wants to be king of the UN.

But he can't be, unless he becomes a "citizen of the world."  The US is a permanent member of the Security Council, and thus Americans are ineligible for the top spot at the UN.

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Howie Dean wants to head the DNC.  He can be their new leader.


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I'm thinking Zero wants to be king of the UN.

Since appointment to USSC is now off the table... :laugh: