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Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« on: November 08, 2016, 08:57:00 pm »
Does she not know about the grandfather clause of Jim Crow laws?  I swear she wants to sabotage the Right sometimes.

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On the eve of Election Day, conservative commentator Ann Coulter suggested that if only people with four U.S.-born grandparents voted, Donald Trump would win by “a 50-state landslide.”

Coulter’s critics were incensed, saying her comments were similar to racist Jim Crow laws that used “grandfather clauses” to stop blacks from voting.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-updates-on-the-2016-election-voting-and-race-results/ann-coulters-grandparent-argument-would-exclude-trump-from-voting/



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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2016, 08:57:54 pm »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause

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The term originated in late nineteenth-century legislation and constitutional amendments passed by a number of U.S. Southern states, which created new requirements for literacy tests, payment of poll taxes, and/or residency and property restrictions to register to vote. States in some cases exempted those whose ancestors (grandfathers) had the right to vote before the Civil War, or as of a particular date, from such requirements. The intent and effect of such rules was to prevent poor and illiterate African-American former slaves and their descendants from voting, but without denying poor and illiterate whites the right to vote. Although these original grandfather clauses were eventually ruled unconstitutional, the terms grandfather clause and grandfather have been adapted to other uses.
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2016, 09:47:36 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on November 08, 2016, 08:57:54 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause
I never knew that. Thanks for the education. Ann Coulter has been out of the closet with her Xenophobia for quite some time.
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2016, 09:55:04 pm »
Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on November 08, 2016, 09:47:36 pm
I never knew that. Thanks for the education. Ann Coulter has been out of the closet with her Xenophobia for quite some time.

She seems to be moving from crypto-fascist to outright fascist.
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2016, 09:58:21 pm »
So Coulter thinks that an "American" is determined by blood, by genetic purity. 

How Aryan of her.
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2016, 10:38:41 pm »
Good grief. I have a grandparent who came from Poland at the age of 3. So that means Ms. Coulter thinks I shouldn't have the right to vote.
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2016, 10:59:23 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on November 08, 2016, 10:38:41 pm
Good grief. I have a grandparent who came from Poland at the age of 3. So that means Ms. Coulter thinks I shouldn't have the right to vote.

Likewise. My maternal Grandmother was born in Norway and emigrated to the United States with her parents when she was 8.

Amusingly, my wife pointed out that while Coulter's plan would prevent my northern-European-descended self from voting, all four of my wife's grandparents were born right here in Texas. They were also all descended from African-American slaves.  :laugh:
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2016, 11:16:45 pm »
This is the 'sanitized' version of Nazi Germany's Mischling Test (from their Nuremberg Laws), in which they determined a person's 'Jewishness' not by religious belief, but by how many Jewish grandparents one had.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischling_Test
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2016, 11:17:45 pm »
Quote from: HonestJohn on November 08, 2016, 11:16:45 pm
This is the 'sanitized' version of Nazi Germany's Mischling Test, in which they determined a person's 'Jewishness' not by religious belief, but by how many Jewish grandparents one had.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischling_Test
I'm really starting to worry about the destination of the Trump Train if you know what I mean.
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2016, 11:25:45 pm »
Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on November 08, 2016, 11:17:45 pm
I'm really starting to worry about the destination of the Trump Train if you know what I mean.

There is a reason I have been saying it isn't just Trump I have been opposing but the direction the Right has shifted lately.
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2016, 11:29:26 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on November 08, 2016, 10:38:41 pm
Good grief. I have a grandparent who came from Poland at the age of 3. So that means Ms. Coulter thinks I shouldn't have the right to vote.

Wow... I guess I'm SOL in Ann's world. My maternal grandfather was born in Scotland.
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2016, 12:48:31 am »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on November 08, 2016, 10:38:41 pm
Good grief. I have a grandparent who came from Poland at the age of 3. So that means Ms. Coulter thinks I shouldn't have the right to vote.
By her standards, my children would not be allowed to vote. Ann Coulter, dumber than she is anorexic............and that's a whole lot of dumb!
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2016, 12:59:38 am »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on November 08, 2016, 11:29:26 pm
Wow... I guess I'm SOL in Ann's world. My maternal grandfather was born in Scotland.

Even worse, I am OK to vote by her standards and I didn't vote for Trump. LOL
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Ann Coulter defends ‘4 grandparents’ tweet after backlash
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2016, 05:39:04 pm »
Ann Coulter defends ‘4 grandparents’ tweet after backlash

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Yahoo News
November 8, 2016

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Firebrand conservative commentator Ann Coulter defended a recent controversial tweet in a heated exchange with Yahoo News Chief Investigative Correspondent Michael Isikoff on Tuesday night.

Coulter roused support as well as plenty of outrage on Twitter Monday night when she posited, “If only people with at least 4 grandparents born in America were voting, Trump would win in a 50-state landslide.”

Coulter is a well-known political bomb-thrower and has no shortage of controversial tweets.

More, with videos and reader comments
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2016, 06:28:13 pm »
Quote from: HonestJohn on November 08, 2016, 09:58:21 pm
So Coulter thinks that an "American" is determined by blood, by genetic purity. 

How Aryan of her.


And Progressive.

It's the left who wanted to euthanize the impure.  Ann fits in well to that mold.
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2016, 06:29:41 pm »
Said it on another thread........... all four of my grandparents were born in Sweden, so my siblings and I still shouldn't vote.

This woman is bordering on insanity.
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2016, 06:30:08 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on November 09, 2016, 12:59:38 am
Even worse, I am OK to vote by her standards and I didn't vote for Trump. LOL

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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2016, 06:35:25 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on November 09, 2016, 06:29:41 pm
Said it on another thread........... all four of my grandparents were born in Sweden, so my siblings and I still shouldn't vote.

This woman is bordering on insanity.

I think I will simply ignore Ann and let her age peacefully.
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2016, 06:39:18 pm »
Quote from: HonestJohn on November 08, 2016, 09:58:21 pm
So Coulter thinks that an "American" is determined by blood, by genetic purity. 

How Aryan of her.

How do you figure? 
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Re: Ann Coulter’s ‘grandparent’ argument would exclude Trump from voting
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2016, 06:50:28 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on November 09, 2016, 06:35:25 pm
I think I will simply ignore Ann and let her age peacefully.

Peacefully, if not gracefully.  :whistle:
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