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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2016, 04:53:48 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 10, 2016, 01:29:16 pm
The unbending, self-focused drumbeat from the NT's was confusing:  how could so conservative a group not actively rise to stop another President Clinton?   

Because voting AGAINST the democrats with whatever NY liberal Democrat the GOP runs as their standard-bearer is NOT Conservative.  It simply enabled the GOP to BECOME a party of Liberalism.

So I was done practicing insanity.  I doesn't matter that it was Clinton, and I gave my reasons already for why.

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 10, 2016, 01:29:16 pm
Thankfully, American voters answered the clarion call.

And in fear of the Communists, they voted for what may become an American Fascist with his own dictatorial ambitions.  Congrats.  History may repeat again.

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My country's well-being comes before my own.


That is the difference between you and most principled Conservatives - we put GOD and His Ways before country.

We do not practice idolatry and make political parties, government and the culture our god.

We do not expect you to comprehend or understand that.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2016, 05:18:35 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on November 08, 2016, 08:31:04 pm
What did Prager say, if one was sick and you'd die unless your leg was amputated, are you going to say you won't pick between the two evils? He was talking about this this morning.
The man should watch Lonesome Dove.  :whistle:

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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2016, 05:24:45 pm »
Quote from: GtHawk on November 09, 2016, 12:53:55 am
Um, okay, remember when Trump and all of his acolytes told us Never-Trumpers that we were insignificant and he didn't need us? What changed?
Apparently some Trumpist Monks aren't going to rest until all #Never Trump have been made to bow down to their orange god. I'm willing to give Trump a chance, but that isn't good enough.

Proud and unbending in honest defeat, and humble and gentle in victory, is a foreign concept to them.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2016, 05:27:55 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on November 10, 2016, 04:53:48 pm

I doesn't matter that it was Clinton. 


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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2016, 05:39:39 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on November 10, 2016, 02:08:25 pm
Yup. Limping into the barn against a loser like Hitlary is one thing.

"Limping"?  LOL!

Donald Trump, without winning either of the most populated states in the union, California and New York, (we know who they wanted and what they wanted from her) won 306 electoral votes.  That's not limping into the Oval Office @Frank Cannon, that's galloping into the Oval Office!   88devil
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2016, 05:43:57 pm »
Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on November 10, 2016, 05:24:45 pm
Apparently some Trumpist Monks aren't going to rest until all #Never Trump have been made to bow down to their orange god. I'm willing to give Trump a chance, but that isn't good enough.

Proud and unbending in honest defeat, and humble and gentle in victory, is a foreign concept to them.

We are an itch  a very few, (not all trumpers), maybe 4 people....can't scratch and it is driving them to madness.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2016, 05:57:44 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 10, 2016, 05:39:39 pm
"Limping"?  LOL!

Donald Trump, without winning either of the most populated states in the union, California and New York, (we know who they wanted and what they wanted from her) won 306 electoral votes.  That's not limping into the Oval Office @Frank Cannon, that's galloping into the Oval Office!   88devil

Losing the popular vote in a low turnout election is an embarrassment.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2016, 06:28:15 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on November 10, 2016, 05:57:44 pm
Losing the popular vote in a low turnout election is an embarrassment.

Oh, please stop looking to argue with everything positive about Donald Trump.  What this election shows is the extraordinary wisdom of our Founders and authors of our Constitution---the electoral college was a stroke of genius.  Without it, as you know, in today's world only California and New York would select the US President.

Losing the popular vote and winning 306 electoral votes is NOT an embarrassment--it is the very miracle our Founders had in mind.   ^-^


@Frank Cannon


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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2016, 10:00:24 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 10, 2016, 06:28:15 pm
Oh, please stop looking to argue with everything positive about Donald Trump.  What this election shows is the extraordinary wisdom of our Founders and authors of our Constitution---the electoral college was a stroke of genius.  Without it, as you know, in today's world only California and New York would select the US President.

Losing the popular vote and winning 306 electoral votes is NOT an embarrassment--it is the very miracle our Founders had in mind.   ^-^


And yet your anointed prince tweeted that “The electoral college is a disaster for democracy.”
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2016, 01:48:36 am »
Quote from: INVAR on November 10, 2016, 10:00:24 pm
And yet your anointed prince tweeted that “The electoral college is a disaster for democracy.”

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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2016, 02:11:42 am »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on November 11, 2016, 01:48:36 am


It would be interesting to ask him what he thinks of the EC now.

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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2016, 03:14:04 am »
Quote from: INVAR on November 10, 2016, 10:00:24 pm
And yet your anointed prince tweeted that “The electoral college is a disaster for democracy.”

Big whoop.   :laugh:
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2016, 04:00:52 am »
Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on November 10, 2016, 05:24:45 pm
Apparently some Trumpist Monks aren't going to rest until all #Never Trump have been made to bow down to their orange god. I'm willing to give Trump a chance, but that isn't good enough.

Proud and unbending in honest defeat, and humble and gentle in victory, is a foreign concept to them.

It's amazing, isn't it?  Even if you are willing to put aside reservations about Trump and stand behind his presidency for the good of the nation....some of the more rabid Trump fans are denouncing you for having 'dared' to ever question or diss him.  It's like they don't even care about unity....but care more about keeping the vitriol going. 
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2016, 04:36:09 am »
Quote from: XenaLee on November 11, 2016, 04:00:52 am
It's amazing, isn't it?  Even if you are willing to put aside reservations about Trump and stand behind his presidency for the good of the nation....some of the more rabid Trump fans are denouncing you for having 'dared' to ever question or diss him.  It's like they don't even care about unity....but care more about keeping the vitriol going.
That's because that anger is all they have, all they have ever had. It's the reason they supported him, and the reason they attacked those who asked for reasons to vote FOR him.
That's particularly sad, and the garbage continued after the votes were in. Unreal, unnecessary, hardly unifying.
Now is the time for pragmatism. He was elected. He isn't what I wanted (neither was she), and now he has something to prove. He has his chance to prove us wrong, we'll see what he does with it.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2016, 04:40:10 am »
Quote from: XenaLee on November 11, 2016, 04:00:52 am
It's amazing, isn't it?  Even if you are willing to put aside reservations about Trump and stand behind his presidency for the good of the nation....some of the more rabid Trump fans are denouncing you for having 'dared' to ever question or diss him.  It's like they don't even care about unity....but care more about keeping the vitriol going.

It's almost like they are trolls here to disrupt harmony between the various Conservative factions. Writing with the language of a 5th grader or someone new to the language, spamming talking points and slogans.

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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2016, 04:40:29 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 11, 2016, 03:14:04 am
Big whoop.   :laugh:

I guess that is today's version of 'Seig -Heil'.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2016, 04:45:27 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 10, 2016, 06:28:15 pm
Losing the popular vote and winning 306 electoral votes is NOT an embarrassment--it is the very miracle our Founders had in mind.   ^-^


@Frank Cannon

I didn't say it wasn't fair and square. I just said it isn't anything I think is bragworthy.

BTW, I am becoming curious why you devout Trumpheads are so Goddam angry after the election. Your guy won. Some of us in the end even voted for the nitwit (My vote was actually real important since I live in PA and he won by thin margins here).

You people are shaping up to have a serious mental disorder over him much like the Obamabots.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2016, 05:19:58 am »
Quote from: Unlimited on November 11, 2016, 05:15:59 am

Better be glad my mother isn't here or she'd make you all kiss and make up.  >8O

Only the hot ones.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2016, 05:23:21 am »
Quote from: INVAR on November 11, 2016, 04:40:29 am
I guess that is today's version of 'Seig -Heil'.

No dear ... big whoop is today's version of big whoop.   :laugh:

(My apologies for having confused you.)
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2016, 05:26:40 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on November 11, 2016, 04:45:27 am
IBTW, I am becoming curious why you devout Trumpheads are so Goddam angry after the election. Your guy won.

Yes, yes he did @Frank Cannon  (You can thank us later)  I'm certainly not angry, Goddam or otherwise.  In fact, I can't stop doing this:



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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2016, 05:33:50 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 11, 2016, 05:26:40 am
(You can thank us later)  I'm certainly not angry, Goddam or otherwise. 

Well you can thank me, you pompous ass, because I voted for him in a state he won the election with. You guys are all angry and vindictive after the fact. I can't get on a thread today without Short Bus Tom, you, et al pointing your bony fingers in peoples faces about your superiority to the non Donny asskissers.

It's high school bullshit.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2016, 05:47:24 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 11, 2016, 05:23:21 am
No dear ... big whoop is today's version of big whoop.   :laugh:

(My apologies for having confused you.)

Oh that's right, I forgot - you people can give two shits about the Constitution or Conservative and moral principles, you were all about the man, because it never mattered that his ideas and behaviors were contrary to the document you pay lip service to.

Today's Big Whoop is yesterday's Seig Heil indeed.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2016, 06:32:44 am »
Quote from: Unlimited on November 11, 2016, 06:26:16 am
@Frank Cannon  Some of the mean girls only come out at night to bat those they feel superior to when @mystery-ak is asleep. 

I personally thank you for voting for Trump in PA. I know how hard it was to do as I voted for him as well; although not in a state such as yours.

I'm tired of the squabbling over something that is done. We need to get down to business around here and point and laugh at the total and complete meltdown the Rat party is having. I thought they were a riot after '96 and '04, but they have hit an entirely new level of depression because their ranks are now filled with rioters and snowflakes.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2016, 02:04:46 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 10, 2016, 06:28:15 pm
Oh, please stop looking to argue with everything positive about Donald Trump.  What this election shows is the extraordinary wisdom of our Founders and authors of our Constitution---the electoral college was a stroke of genius.  Without it, as you know, in today's world only California and New York would select the US President.

Losing the popular vote and winning 306 electoral votes is NOT an embarrassment--it is the very miracle our Founders had in mind.   ^-^


@Frank Cannon
Before the election my wife asked me about the EC. I said it was a good thing for a number of reasons, basically allowing smaller states and areas not to be crushed by bigger states/areas.
She said she was against it. She said the popular vote should determine who wins.
But after Trump won she looked at me and said I was right. I had to write that down for posterity that she admitted I was right about something.
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Re: DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2016, 02:07:36 pm »
Quote from: Unlimited on November 11, 2016, 07:27:59 am
I agree with you whole-heartedly.  I don't understand the sniping when there is so much delicious fun to be had right now.  All I can think is that some people enjoy being unhappy.  Not much we can do about those, but the rest of us can drink our fill of Rat tears, savoring every drop.  ;)
"but the rest of us can drink our fill of Rat tears, savoring every drop"

I still don't like or trust Trump even though I voted for him,  but the enjoyment from seeing the misery of Dems and the end of the Clintons did make me exceptionally happy.
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