DENNIS PRAGER: A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers

[TomSea]

A Final Plea to Never-Trumpers
Tuesday, Nov 8, 2016

It is very hard to publicly affirm a position for nearly a year and to then, at the last minute, change one’s mind.

Nevertheless, even as late as Election Day itself, I wish to address those conservatives and Republicans who have declared themselves Never-Trumpers.

I was one of you in vigorously opposing Trump’s nomination — on my national radio show and in my syndicated column. And I paid a price, as you have, in losing longtime supporters — in my case any number of listeners who supported Trump from the outset and found my strong opposition to him disappointing and worse.

Unlike you, however, I did say from the beginning that if he were to be the nominee, I would vote for him.

On this Election Day, I am more convinced than ever that this was the right position. I even have to believe that in the wee hours of the night — when worrying about the current and future state of our beloved country keeps you awake — many of you have at least wondered whether you have taken the right position.

Most of you are simply too intelligent, too idealistic and too self-questioning not to have at least on occasion had second thoughts. If you understand — and I cannot believe that most of you don’t — how destructive another four years of any Democrat in the White House, let alone the truly corrupt Hillary Clinton, would be, it is inconceivable that you have never questioned your Never-Trump position. Never-Trump, after all, is not the same as Never-Question.

To prove my point, one of my favorite Never-Trumpers, Jonah Goldberg, wrote in May: “If the election were a perfect tie, and the vote fell to me and me alone, I’d probably vote for none other than Donald Trump.”

In that moment of exquisite honesty, Jonah acknowledged one of the most important moral arguments to be made for voting for Trump — the Lesser of Two Evils argument.

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[TomSea]

What did Prager say, if one was sick and you'd die unless your leg was amputated, are you going to say you won't pick between the two evils? He was talking about this this morning.

[sinkspur]

Sorry Dennis.

[sinkspur]

What did Prager say, if one was sick and you'd die unless your leg was amputated, are you going to say you won't pick between the two evils? He was talking about this this morning.

One of the reasons I don't buy this "lesser of two evils" thing is that the hyperbole from the Trump voters has gotten way out of hand.  Ridiculous, in fact.

[Resp3]

Oh Barf.

It's a lot too late to come sucking up to Never Trumpers. Trump ran his whole campaign on kicking conservatives to the curb.

I've never been a Never Trumper, but I respect their decision to sit this one out. But I'll never respect the Tom Sea types who pander for support like this.

[bolobaby]

Nope. Too late.

I just wonder how long it will take before these "pleas" turn into screeds against #NeverTrump and the long-knives come out. I'm guessing by 9pm tonight, the vitriol really starts flowing.

[goodwithagun]

What did Prager say, if one was sick and you'd die unless your leg was amputated, are you going to say you won't pick between the two evils? He was talking about this this morning.

Why amputate when there are alternatives? I used Gerson for my cancer, and I wrote in McMullin for president.

[Oceander]

#NeverTrump

[geronl]

NeverTrump. never ever ever ever

[Cripplecreek]

Correction.

A final wasted plea.

[Wingnut]

#NeverTrump

NeverTrump. never ever ever ever

Correction.

A final wasted plea.

 

[INVAR]

Pound Sand Dennis.

You are asking us to violate our principles and and our consciences to assuage your own immoral choice.

In short - you are asking us to sin.

A violation of scripture in Romans 14 and I Corinthians 8.

But you already know that Dennis.

[INVAR]

By the way - why the plea?

Your candidate has told us repeatedly he did not need nor want our votes.

His rabid followers repeated that and told us countless times that we were not wanted, nor needed.

So why today - are you begging and pleading with us to support your chosen, with whom your prince and his zealots have said they did not need nor want?

[Cripplecreek]

By the way - why the plea?

Your candidate has told us repeatedly he did not need nor want our votes.

His rabid followers repeated that and told us countless times that we were not wanted, nor needed.

So why today - are you begging and pleading with us to support your chosen, with whom your prince and his zealots have said they did not need nor want?

Seems to be some last minute fear setting in.

[Jazzhead]

I'm sure most of the NeverTrumps would have relented if Trump himself had made the effort to be statesmanlike and Presidential.   We all know that a Clinton Presidency will be wrong on the issues for conservatives.  Those of us who have remained NeverTrump have known full well the price to paid, in terms of liberal policies and potential domination of the Supreme Court, of our opposition to Donald Trump. 

We are, effectively, taking a stand against our own self interest.  Now why in the world would we do that?   It's because of Trump the man,  Trump the erratic narcissist who simply won't grow up, who continues to engage in petty feuds and vendettas,  threatening lawsuits and changing advisors like socks.  Trump the naïve politician who falls into every trap the Dems set for him.   Trump the demagogue who appeals to racialism no differently than Al Sharpton does.   Trump the graceless who never apologizes for the insults and offense.   

We look at Trump and conclude that, as bad as Hillary is,  Trump is likely to be worse,  a dangerous combination of inexperience and hubris who won't listen to counsel.   He may be a fantastic real estate developer and father,  but he lacks the temperament to be Commander in Chief.   

In the end, the problem with Trump has been Trump himself and his refusal to change.     

[goatprairie]

I voted for Trump, because I held to my promise of always voting for the least worst candidate. But I don't feel good about it.
The problem with the NeverHillary types is that there will very likely well be just as bad Dem candidates far into the future. When you vote for a louse like Trump, you are giving assent to continue to nominate trolls like him....because "well, we can't let Awful Dem candidate X into the Oval Office."
Trump is the worst candidate ever nominated by the Republicans on many grounds.  He's an  ignoramus, he's morally challenged, he has a thoroughly undeserved savior complex, and he's an egotistical jerk. Because Hillary is a (slightly) bigger disaster does not make Trump good.
I still think the NeverTrump people hold the higher moral ground. Candidates like him, Trump, should be discouraged. I voted for Trump (probably in vain) to keep Hillary out. But I'll never do this again. If the Republicans nominate another Trump-type in 2020, that's it for me. Trump has put a stain on the Republican Party that will make it very difficult for future Pubbie candidates to eradicate. If there is a Republican Party four years from now.

[GtHawk]

What did Prager say, if one was sick and you'd die unless your leg was amputated, are you going to say you won't pick between the two evils? He was talking about this this morning.

Um, okay, remember when Trump and all of his acolytes told us Never-Trumpers that we were insignificant and he didn't need us? What changed?

[INVAR]

I voted for Trump, because I held to my promise of always voting for the least worst candidate. But I don't feel good about it.
The problem with the NeverHillary types is that there will very likely well be just as bad Dem candidates far into the future. When you vote for a louse like Trump, you are giving assent to continue to nominate trolls like him....because "well, we can't let Awful Dem candidate X into the Oval Office."
Trump is the worst candidate ever nominated by the Republicans on many grounds.  He's an  ignoramus, he's morally challenged, he has a thoroughly undeserved savior complex, and he's an egotistical jerk. Because Hillary is a (slightly) bigger disaster does not make Trump good.
I still think the NeverTrump people hold the higher moral ground. Candidates like him, Trump, should be discouraged. I voted for Trump (probably in vain) to keep Hillary out. But I'll never do this again. If the Republicans nominate another Trump-type in 2020, that's it for me. Trump has put a stain on the Republican Party that will make it very difficult for future Pubbie candidates to eradicate. If there is a Republican Party four years from now.

Kudos to you.

I do not know why the Trump militants refuse to act as you have.  So you voted for Trump - as is your right and privilege to do.  We didn't threaten you, insult you or demean you for what you felt was the best thing for you to do to assuage your views.  We understand the shit sandwich foisted on us and we have all been played, early on.

The militants have spent nearly all their time and capital to ridicule, demean, castigate, insult and disparage the principles of Conservatives who cannot and will not vote for him whom they assert will save us, and nothing to combat the one they supposedly fear and loathe so much.

Because in truth - I think they hate and fear those of us who refused to legitimize their failed choice, more than those they claim to fear.

[Jazzhead]

Kudos to you.

I do not know why the Trump militants refuse to act as you have.  So you voted for Trump - as is your right and privilege to do.  We didn't threaten you, insult you or demean you for what you felt was the best thing for you to do to assuage your views.  We understand the shit sandwich foisted on us and we have all been played, early on.

The militants have spent nearly all their time and capital to ridicule, demean, castigate, insult and disparage the principles of Conservatives who cannot and will not vote for him whom they assert will save us, and nothing to combat the one they supposedly fear and loathe so much.

Because in truth - I think they hate and fear those of us who refused to legitimize their failed choice, more than those they claim to fear.

I for one expect that NeverTrumps will reconcile with most Trump voters who, as you colorfully described,  made a different call when faced with downing a fecal sandwich.   The militants, if Trump wins,   will reconcile if they have ambitions to actually do something about what ails us.   And if they lose,  well,  they told us weeks ago they'd be sore losers.   And no one likes a sore loser.

[INVAR]

I for one expect that NeverTrumps will reconcile with most Trump voters who, as you colorfully described,  made a different call when faced with downing a fecal sandwich.   The militants, if Trump wins,   will reconcile if they have ambitions to actually do something about what ails us.   And if they lose,  well,  they told us weeks ago they'd be sore losers.   And no one likes a sore loser.

I'll never trust those folks again to warrant any kind of reconciliation to trust them in my camp or foxhole.

If they can threaten and do what they did when the tree is green, what will they do when it is dry?

[Cripplecreek]

I'll never trust those folks again to warrant any kind of reconciliation to trust them in my camp or foxhole.

If they can threaten and do what they did when the tree is green, what will they do when it is dry?

Trumpers have to earn it and I don't see them trying.

[TomSea]

If the Never-Trumpers egos are more important than little babies, then you can't really say anything if they don't want to vote pro-life.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Because in truth - I think they hate and fear those of us who refused to legitimize their failed choice,

In truth, @INVAR I do not believe you were hated or feared, at least not by me.  The unbending, self-focused drumbeat from the NT's was confusing:  how could so conservative a group not actively rise to stop another President Clinton?   

But, as it turns out, the NT self-absorbed position, while not forgotten, is now moot.  Thankfully, American voters answered the clarion call.

[aligncare]

"Self-absorbed." Yes, without question. But, I would also add to that, "self-important."

Any American who's ever served in a war zone, as I have, knows what they are being asked to do: put their country before their own life.

My country's well-being comes before my own.

Go President elect Donald Trump and Vice President elect Mike Pence. A grateful nation thanks you and wishes you well.   

[Frank Cannon]

Trumpers have to earn it and I don't see them trying.

Yup. Limping into the barn against a loser like Hitlary is one thing. Actually getting something real done in office is another. Time will tell.