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This Isn't An Election It's A War
« on: November 08, 2016, 12:57:15 pm »
It's here.  The day America loses; just how much remains to be seen. With Hillary we will say good-bye to our Republic and our sovereignty.  With her very well 'calculated' run for the presidency combined with re-districting and voter fraud, I don't hold out any hope that she will be stopped. 

Levin truth-bomb: ‘This isn’t an election; it’s a WAR

“It’s a war. A war over politics,” shouted Conservative Review Editor-in-Chief Mark Levin Monday night, on the eve of Election Day 2016.

“This is a battle between traditional values … and the other side that believes in concentrated centralized power,” Levin continued on his radio program, stating we must be saved from the continued breakdown of our values and principles.

The Left has targeted constitutional values such as liberty, limited government, and private property for years and they are NOT stopping now, Levin said.

...“[Trump] is the vessel through whom we seek to slow what’s happening to the country.” But be assured, regardless of who wins tomorrow, the Left will keep marching. The war rages on beyond Nov. 8, and conservatives must be ready.

- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/11/levin-truth-bomb-this-isnt-an-election-its-a-war#sthash.x151Z9nr.dpuf

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Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: This Isn't An Election It's A War
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2016, 12:58:51 pm »
Both candidates are cultural degenerates and NEITHER is going to slow the degeneration of America because they are the rot.

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Re: This Isn't An Election It's A War
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2016, 01:44:15 pm »
Both candidates are cultural degenerates and NEITHER is going to slow the degeneration of America because they are the rot.

One is a rot in his personal life. 

The other will bring institutionalized rot to legislation, the Courts, and every arm of the federal government, because those are the core principles of the people/party she represents.

While neither may be superior to the other as an individual human being, one presents a greater danger to the country as a whole.

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2016, 01:59:17 pm »
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This is a battle between traditional values

Nonsense.  Trump's nomination means the GOP is running this year on the twin platforms of moral equivalence and racialism - just as the Dems have for years.    We used to be the party that called for the restoration of honor and dignity to the White House.  No more - we nominated a sexual predator and rationalized it by saying Bill Clinton did it too.   And Trump's appeals to racialism are no different than Al Sharpton's.   
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Re: This Isn't An Election It's A War
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2016, 04:22:43 pm »
Mark Levin should have walked away from the Republican Party YEARS AGO.

Screw him and his "one more inch".

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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2016, 04:25:29 pm »
One is a rot in his personal life. 

The other will bring institutionalized rot to legislation, the Courts, and every arm of the federal government, because those are the core principles of the people/party she represents.

While neither may be superior to the other as an individual human being, one presents a greater danger to the country as a whole.

If the personal is so irrelevant, then why was so much made out of Bill Clinton's personal follies? 

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Re: This Isn't An Election It's A War
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2016, 04:35:32 pm »
Mark Levin should have walked away from the Republican Party YEARS AGO.

Screw him and his "one more inch".

There are a few people that argued with me about what a conservative Mr. Galactic inch was when I told them he was a fraud that would back Trump.

I don't expect to hear any apologies though.

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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2016, 04:36:54 pm »
One is a rot in his personal life. 

The other will bring institutionalized rot to legislation, the Courts, and every arm of the federal government, because those are the core principles of the people/party she represents.

While neither may be superior to the other as an individual human being, one presents a greater danger to the country as a whole.

Trump, at worst, will give us Gridlock, which beats the alternative.

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2016, 04:47:46 pm »
Trump, at worst, will give us Gridlock, which beats the alternative.

That's kind of what I don't understand.  Democrats hate the guy.  A lot of elected Republicans hate the guy.  He'll be an outsider coming in with no institutional support within the bureaucracy, or courts.  His cabinet officers all will be more restrained than he is.

I just don't see a lot of practical ability for him, as a political novice, to implement his agenda (whatever that happens to be) over the opposition of all those groups.  The guy will probably be one of the least powerful Presidents in history.  To me, that reduces significantly whatever risk there is in electing him.
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2016, 04:49:23 pm »
Trump, at worst, will give us Gridlock, which beats the alternative.

Trump at worst best will do exactly what he's done his whole life: cut deals with liberals.  It would be Trump and the democrats against the once-again isolated republicans. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2016, 05:02:25 pm »
I just don't see a lot of practical ability for him, as a political novice, to implement his agenda (whatever that happens to be) over the opposition of all those groups.  The guy will probably be one of the least powerful Presidents in history.  To me, that reduces significantly whatever risk there is in electing him.

If you look at the people around Trump they are all very capable. Pence, Newt, Sessions, Christi, Rudy, etc. I think it is a mistake to underestimate Trumps ability to implement his agenda. 

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2016, 05:05:10 pm »
If you look at the people around Trump they are all very capable. Pence, Newt, Sessions, Christi, Rudy, etc. I think it is a mistake to underestimate Trumps ability to implement his agenda.

My point is that the capable people you describe are not themselves nutty.  So to the extent he wants to accomplish things, he's going to have to be working through people that most of us like much better than Trump himself.  And to the extent he wants to go off the reservation and do something wacky, his lack of political experience is going to limit him.

In other words, I'm arguing that those who are afraid of Trump because of some of his rhetoric are overlooking the fact that the kookier things he says will never make it into policy.

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Re: This Isn't An Election It's A War
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2016, 05:05:12 pm »
I've always maintained several people, especially those that talked about how "character counts"  when Bill Clinton was running all owe Bill Clinton a HUGE apology.

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Re: This Isn't An Election It's A War
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2016, 05:05:39 pm »
Levin truth-bomb: ‘This isn’t an election; it’s a WAR

“It’s a war. A war over politics,” shouted Conservative Review Editor-in-Chief Mark Levin Monday night, on the eve of Election Day 2016.


Mark. Mark, Mark, Mark.

Stop the drama queen theatrics, willya?

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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2016, 06:35:25 pm »

“It’s a war. A war over politics,” shouted Conservative Review Editor-in-Chief Mark Levin Monday night, on the eve of Election Day 2016.

The Left has targeted constitutional values such as liberty, limited government, and private property for years …..


So has Trump.

Sad to see Levin has turned into just another shill for a NYC Liberal Democrat running as Hillary's Trojan Stalking Horse.
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2016, 06:37:51 pm »
Mark Levin should have walked away from the Republican Party YEARS AGO.

Screw him and his "one more inch".

I've dumped both he and Rush as people I listen to or watch.

I have no use for party hacks and shills for Leftists disguised as Conservatives.

Levin should have stuck to teaching Constitutional history and the Founders rather than shill for a NY Liberal Democrat he too has lofted to savior status.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2016, 06:49:00 pm »
I've dumped both he and Rush as people I listen to or watch.

I have no use for party hacks and shills for Leftists disguised as Conservatives.

Levin should have stuck to teaching Constitutional history and the Founders rather than shill for a NY Liberal Democrat he too has lofted to savior status.

He has been doing the opposite of shilling for Trump.  He has said he will vote for him as the only candidate with any chance of keeping HRC out of the Whitehouse, but he has been very harsh in his criticism of Trump. 

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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2016, 07:05:35 pm »
If the personal is so irrelevant, then why was so much made out of Bill Clinton's personal follies?


There is so much wrong in  this statement. 

1.   In 1992,  there was a much larger percentage of the old school generation that valued ethics and morality.

2.   The accusations and witness verified accounts of Bill Clinton's behavior was so much more egregious than anything of which Trump has been accused except for that withdrawn rape accusation.   

3.   Bill Clinton changed the existing standard.   Since the media said "It's about sex,  and therefore irrelevant",    it is reasonable for people to believe that issues of sex no longer matter.   

4.   Bill Clinton committed them while Governor and President,  which implies a corruption of office and of power.     Businessmen do not have State Police ferrying their whores back and forth to them at taxpayer expense.   

5.   The Scandals of the Clinton administration just started at Sex.   They went way beyond just "sex."   


6.   Personal Foibles indicate the character of a person.   Clinton was trying to pretend to be a man of good character.    We already know Trump lies often and flip flops whenever necessary.    That he talks vulgar and expresses vulgar sentiments adds nothing to what we already know. 




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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2016, 07:07:07 pm »
Trump, at worst, will give us Gridlock, which beats the alternative.



Trump cannot get away with abusing executive authority.   The media and the bureaucracy will allow Hillary to get away with anything.   

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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2016, 07:10:05 pm »
I've always maintained several people, especially those that talked about how "character counts"  when Bill Clinton was running all owe Bill Clinton a HUGE apology.


Character still counts.    It's just both candidates are a lot lower on the bar than we usually see,   with Hillary being by far the worse of the two in the character department.   


Nobody owes Bill Clinton an apology for anything,  in fact quite the reverse is true. 


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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2016, 08:51:40 pm »
He has been doing the opposite of shilling for Trump.  He has said he will vote for him as the only candidate with any chance of keeping HRC out of the Whitehouse, but he has been very harsh in his criticism of Trump.

I know what his criticisms WERE, but if this stuff he spouted for Trump isn't shilling for him, what is?

You do not vote for liberals to promote Conservatism.

But somehow we have allowed ourselves to think that voting AGAINST someone is advancing the Conservative agenda.

Imbecillic thinking.
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2016, 08:56:03 pm »
I know what his criticisms WERE, but if this stuff he spouted for Trump isn't shilling for him, what is?

You do not vote for liberals to promote Conservatism.

But somehow we have allowed ourselves to think that voting AGAINST someone is advancing the Conservative agenda.

Imbecillic thinking.

A vote for Hitler was a vote against the communists.

It didn't work out so hot.

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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2016, 09:01:14 pm »
I know what his criticisms WERE, but if this stuff he spouted for Trump isn't shilling for him, what is?

You do not vote for liberals to promote Conservatism.

But somehow we have allowed ourselves to think that voting AGAINST someone is advancing the Conservative agenda.

Imbecillic thinking.

Many of us are not voting for Trump to promote conservatism, nor are we claiming that our vote against Hillary is advancing the conservative agenda.

It is plain and simple damage control.

That is rational thinking.

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« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2016, 09:29:13 pm »
A vote for Hitler was a vote against the communists.

It didn't work out so hot.

It was fear of the Communists amidst fear and misery that brought Hitler to power.

Somehow this people think that can never happen here - as if human nature only happens 'over there'.
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« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2016, 09:49:53 pm »
Many of us are not voting for Trump to promote conservatism, nor are we claiming that our vote against Hillary is advancing the conservative agenda.

You are actually the few - not the many.

The many have given us months of insistence that Trump was THE MOST Conservative candidate that ran.


It is plain and simple damage control.

That is rational thinking.

I used to think so.

Then I realized I had been doing that since Dole - and since then, the GOP has simply flung itself further and further Left - until it is now indistinguishable from the Democrats, even to the point of pushing a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat as their party head.

Rather than the 'rational thinking' of voting for 'damage control' - I have decided that act of futility was simply practicing insanity on my part.

So I will do it no more.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775