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Last majority white election, minorities to give Democrats White House through 2060
By Paul Bedard (@SecretsBedard) • 11/6/16 1:32 PM


This may be the last year that a Republican will be elected president, as the growth of liberal-leaning minorities all but guarantees that Democrats will hold the majority at least for the next four decades.

That's according to an unusual survey on the impact of minorities, mostly Latin American, done for WalletHub and provided to Secrets.

The study used two models based on population projections and matched to the overwhelming 65 percent minority turnout for President Obama in 2012 and the underwhelming 50 percent response for George W. Bush in 2004.

The bottom line: In no presidential election from 2020-60 do the Republicans win. The closest the Republicans come is 2020 when the Democratic vote under the 2004 model reaches 50.48 percent, WalletHub said. The widest gap is projected for 2060, when the minority population will be its biggest, delivering the Democrats 58.8 percent of the vote.

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Exactly.  That's what I've been saying for quite sometime.  Hillary gets in, grants amnesty and tilts the courts to the left, this country is over.  Our sovereignty and our Republic will end.  Brace yourselves.
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There may be something to demographics and we all do not want to become like the liberal states, the example often used is California; but..

Republicans need to make inroads, why is Minnesota so blue and they are about 85% or more white, the same for Wisconsin and Iowa is at 90%; but none of these states are nearly as conservative as Texas which as we've heard before, has become a "minority majority state" per the US census.

Obviously, the Democrats are not doing one thing for the black community and in fact, with whites, they are hurt big time with open borders.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 10:34:58 pm by TomSea »

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It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, as evidenced by this election.

As long as the GOP believes this, the GOP will not truly attempt any meaningful outreach.  Furthermore, the current GOP voter base will reject any attempt as futile and seek to restrict voting.  Which will be seen as an attack on the very minority groups the GOP needs to survive. 

That drives them away, which reinforces the GOP voter base belief that they cannot win through normal means.

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This goes for candidate campaign speeches, party platform planks, ideology, *EVERYTHING*.  This article is just one bit of it.

It's a vicious cycle, not a virtuous cycle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_circle_and_vicious_circle
« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 10:34:00 pm by HonestJohn »

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By the way, the white population I heard was still 60% or so of the US population. So by 2020, it's going to be under 50%. Sure.

Per 2010; 63.7% per wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

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why is Minnesota so blue and they are about 85% or more white, the same for Wisconsin and Iowa is at 90%; but none of these states are nearly as conservative as Texas which as we've heard before, has become a "minority majority state" per the US census.
You make a very valid point here. Demography does not necessarily mean destiny.

As I've said before, I truly believe the Republican Party is a dying party. It has too much baggage and has wedded itself to policies too toxic for most people, whatever ethnicity they may be, to accept. However, something will rise from its ashes, and when it does, the Democrats won't be able to count on their "minority" vote to usher them into victory like this guy predicts.

Times change. The needs of the people change. Whoever can adapt the fastest will benefit the most.
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You make a very valid point here. Demography does not necessarily mean destiny.

As I've said before, I truly believe the Republican Party is a dying party. It has too much baggage and has wedded itself to policies too toxic for most people, whatever ethnicity they may be, to accept. However, something will rise from its ashes, and when it does, the Democrats won't be able to count on their "minority" vote to usher them into victory like this guy predicts.

Times change. The needs of the people change. Whoever can adapt the fastest will benefit the most.

I don't think it is necessarily a problem with Republican ideals, a poll was taken of illegal aliens or new immigrants, I forget which; and it showed on balance, they were more liberal than occupy Wall Street, that they believed in big government.

These are the wrong ideas, if one is for smaller government, a libertarian ideal; that really can be kissed good by with people who want bigger government, a nanny state.

Really thought one would get digs at the Republican party there.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/375849/legal-immigration-lifeblood-left-mark-krikorian

Plenty of articles deal with this, it's not so much as the narrative the left would like us to hear, that the GOP is becoming antiquated, it's that new arrivals just don't have conservative values and we bring in so many immigrants.

Country should split up, let liberal areas be that, let conservative areas be that, instead of kowtowing to leftwing atheism.

Traditional values, American exceptionalism, need to be guarded.

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No no no - Trumpettes have assured me that Trump is turning the tide when it comes to minorities! Soon, all your base are belong to us!
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No no no - Trumpettes have assured me that Trump is turning the tide when it comes to minorities! Soon, all your base are belong to us!

Have they? Or do some polls say that and this is being used again, to be accusatory towards others?

What are Trumpettes? Anyone who supports the nominee? No wonder the GOP doesn't win if just supporting the nominee has one has for decades leads to ridicule.

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Have they? Or do some polls say that and this is being used again, to be accusatory towards others?

What are Trumpettes? Anyone who supports the nominee? No wonder the GOP doesn't win if just supporting the nominee has one has for decades leads to ridicule.

Seriously, Tom? This is no ordinary nominee. This man isn't even conservative. The GOP jettisoned conservatism in hopes that populism would somehow win the day.

The problem is, they didn't even pick a credible populist candidate. They picked a loud-mouthed, ignorant, snake-oil salesman.

Yes. You will get attacked for your part in this debacle. You have been a vocal supporter of Trump. He's an embarrassment and his supporters have enabled a Hillary win.
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Why exactly should conservatives think that "non-white" means Democrat? Most immigrants - yes, including Trump's bugbear, Mexicans - came here because they believed we had conservative values that would allow them to work and get ahead without government or private interest interference.  And, living in a black neighborhood, I can tell you that most blacks want this too and are not thrilled with being subjected to the latest government program because they see it as what it is, an attempt at control. 

As for Asian and Eastern European immigrants, they're obviously doing very well with capitalism and a free society.  And of course, all of those who are Christian immigrants do better than the Muslim welfare bums that Obama is importing, because Christians from anyplace or any background share the values upon which this country was built.

If we just reached out and made it clear that this is what we're supporting - and not "whiteness" - I don't think there'd be any "minority problem" for the GOP.  We'd all be drawn together to work for prosperity and a decent society.

And contrary to the opinions of Pope Frankie, who is fat and happy and has the biggest carbon footprint in the universe, acquired on his way to condemn the Church, the West and capitalism before one or another leftist audience, prosperity is a good thing.

If we actually supported

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Why exactly should conservatives think that "non-white" means Democrat? Most immigrants - yes, including Trump's bugbear, Mexicans - came here because they believed we had conservative values that would allow them to work and get ahead without government or private interest interference.  And, living in a black neighborhood, I can tell you that most blacks want this too and are not thrilled with being subjected to the latest government program because they see it as what it is, an attempt at control. 

As for Asian and Eastern European immigrants, they're obviously doing very well with capitalism and a free society.  And of course, all of those who are Christian immigrants do better than the Muslim welfare bums that Obama is importing, because Christians from anyplace or any background share the values upon which this country was built.

If we just reached out and made it clear that this is what we're supporting - and not "whiteness" - I don't think there'd be any "minority problem" for the GOP.  We'd all be drawn together to work for prosperity and a decent society.

And contrary to the opinions of Pope Frankie, who is fat and happy and has the biggest carbon footprint in the universe, acquired on his way to condemn the Church, the West and capitalism before one or another leftist audience, prosperity is a good thing.

If we actually supported

One must not be from California, and yes, on an individual basis, these people may be conservative but that does not necessarily translate to how they vote.

There are no absolutes, South Carolina elected Tim Scott, Conservative; and a lot of "white people" elected him ; but blacks nonetheless voted heavily for the most left-wing president ever.

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Tell the many people who have been killed by illegal aliens or are dying from heroin smuggled in from Mexico that these people share conservative values.

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Reagan granted amnesty, it did little if nothing to help the GOP. That says a lot there.

Instead of utopianizing, let's look at the facts and figures.

"Oh, those poor people are only coming here for a better way of life and they are conservatives just like all of us!"

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Is the alt-right right then? Seems like they might be about this, maybe not trump though.