Last Day Before Election: Most Major Polls Have Hillary Clinton Winning

[DiogenesLamp]

FWIW, it appears that Hillary's people wanted Trump, and feared Rubio the most.

Only because of the Hispanic angle.   "Young Person of Color"  beats "Hateful old White Psycho Crone."   


But the media would have ran interference and tripped him up.   They weren't afraid of Rubio for his brains,   they were afraid of him for his ethnicity. 

[roamer_1]

Even now you overemphasize your significance in the larger scheme of things.   No,  it won't be your fault so much as it will be the fault of the Liberal controlled media,   but we will all recognize that you worked to achieve the same goal,  though their contribution made it happen,  and yours did not.

I have always and only worked toward Conservative goals. When you parted ways with Conservatism, Your goals and mine diverged. I will not serve liberalism, whether it has a big rhinestone 'R' next to it or not.

And until all y'all stand upon the principles you purport to embrace, you will find me in your opposition.
Foremost, Conservatism. Moving it leftward is no win, and certainly not Conservative.

And whether I am such a tiny minority or not is of little value to me. I will be standing on exactly the same place I have been raised in since my youth - I simply do not give a rusty sh*t about anything else.

But then, I know I ain't alone, not by a long shot.  And I consider myself to be in the best of company... having little need or regard for a mere Republican.

[sinkspur]

 
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"If we don’t win, I will consider this the single greatest waste of time, energy…and money," @realDonaldTrump says 1 day before the election

Trump's lying here.  He's had the time of his life.

[Cyber Liberty]

McCain was "nice."

BS.  He's the biggest pr**k on the hill, and everybody knows it.  What he was, was wobbly.

[Norm Lenhart]

I have always and only worked toward Conservative goals. When you parted ways with Conservatism, Your goals and mine diverged. I will not serve liberalism, whether it has a big rhinestone 'R' next to it or not.

And until all y'all stand upon the principles you purport to embrace, you will find me in your opposition.
Foremost, Conservatism. Moving it leftward is no win, and certainly not Conservative.

And whether I am such a tiny minority or not is of little value to me. I will be standing on exactly the same place I have been raised in since my youth - I simply do not give a rusty sh*t about anything else.

But then, I know I ain't alone, not by a long shot.  And I consider myself to be in the best of company... having little need or regard for a mere Republican.

No, you arent alone. And that is exactly what upsets the Trumpians so deeply. They can spout all the crap they like about how meaningless we are but it rings hollow considering how often they are obliged to say it.

And of course the dawning horror for them that they DID need us. But as conservatives, we do NOT need or WANT them. We are as you said, right where we have always been. Standing on our principles. If that means we lose, so be it. Winning with a liberal is no victory I am interested in.

They can either come to our way of thinking, or not. But here we will be.

BLAMELESS.

[roamer_1]

Yup if Hillary wins a close election then NeverTrump will own it.

I wish y'all would make up your minds.

And no, LOSERS lose. It is their own fault. If your team loses, it's on YOU, and that vapid orange liberal you chose to endorse.

[Sanguine]

I liked Ben Carson,  but I recognized he was simply too nice.   Also the media had successfully portrayed him as kooky. ...

Yeah, that's because he keeps saying kooky things. 

[corbe]

Some people just don't seem to realize their obvious dog in the fight.

  @DiogenesLamp

   Especially when it's Not a Conservative DOG.

[skeeter]

Easy or not,  they would have still done it.   So long as they have the power to pass off their opinions as news,   they can make the news look like anything they want.   


You do know they helped Trump beat Cruz?

Yes, as I commented at the time. They helped him by holding their fire until the general election, as predicted.

[roamer_1]

They can either come to our way of thinking, or not. But here we will be.

BLAMELESS.

Precisely.

[Sanguine]

  @DiogenesLamp

   Especially when it's Not a Conservative DOG.

Cute puppy!

[HonestJohn]

I wanted Walker.   I wouldn't have minded Perry.   Cruz was who I ended up supporting,   and now I have to settle for Trump.   


But yes,  the media would have hammered anyone we picked,  and I still do not understand why all of our discussions are not focused on eradicating liberal control of the media.

You really have a fixation on state control over the media.

[HonestJohn]

I know this may surprise some of you, but in the very beginning I flirted with supporting Ted Cruz or
Scott Walker. Had nice things to say about both of them, and Ben Carson for that matter.

But Donald Trump Won. Now it's up to us, Republicans, to keep the Democrats out of the White House. If not us, then whom?

Donald Trump only won the GOP primary beause people like you voted for him.

Look to yourself to fix the problem.

[DiogenesLamp]

I have always and only worked toward Conservative goals. When you parted ways with Conservatism, Your goals and mine diverged. I will not serve liberalism, whether it has a big rhinestone 'R' next to it or not.

If you are helping Hillary,  you are serving Liberalism.   If you are not trying to defeat her,  you are serving Liberalism. 

And until all y'all stand upon the principles you purport to embrace, you will find me in your opposition.
Foremost, Conservatism. Moving it leftward is no win, and certainly not Conservative.

Self fulfilling prophecies does not make one prophetic.   Putting your thumb on Hillary's side of the scale does not advance conservatism,  indeed it is likely the death of it.   

[roamer_1]

It taught the GOP primary base that a milquetoast nice guy will get his @$$ handed to him,   so therefore we need to get a "balls to the wall"  street fighter to carry the fight to them. 

And that's TRUMP? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I love how you guys are so naive as to conflate Boorish A$$h*le with the hard core of anything to do with manhood. Especially 'street-fighter'. It's just so cute.

McCain was "nice."  He lost.   Romney was "nice."   He Lost.    George Herbert Walker Bush was "nice."  He lost.   
Lesson learned:    Don't pick "nice"  guys,   pick people who have teeth.

HWBush lost because he wasn't Conservative (moderate, NWO).
Dole lost because he wasn't Conservative (moderate, NWO).
WBush won (barely) because he played a Conservative (actually not though, moderate, NWO)
McAin't lost because not only is he not Conservative, but is a direct enemy of Conservatives. (Dick)
Romney lost because he is a liberal. (Liberal communist NWO)
Trump will lose because he is a liberal. (Liberal Democrat national socialist NWO, boorish ass)

Maybe, just maybe... Try a Conservative for a change.

[HonestJohn]

I don't consider you principled conservatives,  I consider you irrational fanatics.   Principled conservatives,  having not gotten their preferred candidate would have made their feelings known,  and then shut the F*** up about it, not work to undermine the candidate the rest of their party had selected.   

I didn't like Romney,   but I didn't spend the months leading up to the election bitching about him and trying to sabotage his election.   

What you need to realize is that we may not survive this psychotic hate witch,   and if my children suffer because of your stupid behavior,  I will be hoping that you and yours get a double measure.

What you fail to understand is that there are mutually understood boundaries of acceptability in our political system.

Romney fell in that spectrum of acceptability.

Trump does not.

[DiogenesLamp]

BS.  He's the biggest pr**k on the hill, and everybody knows it.  What he was, was wobbly.

He was "nice"  to the enemy,  which is the only thing I was talking about.   

[corbe]

Cute puppy!

   I inherited one, Once she got over my Lab trying to Eat Her she settled down a bit but still very Stubborn, Persistent, yet Incredible Loyal Dogs out there.

[Norm Lenhart]

Precisely.

This country was not founded on the principles of lesser evil and situational ethics. Yet that is exactly what one has to adopt to put party over country. To put winning no matter what over winning to advance the core beliefs we hold.

I want any of these people to explain why they believe that after election after election going further and further left (and losing each of them since the great push for lesser evil began, that they are on the right path and we are on the wrong one. This will make three presidential elections running they have lost to easily beatable candidates.

Lets face it. The above is a matter of historical record and every year they prop up someone forther to the left than the guy before. McCain - Romney - Trump. They went from Stereotype RINO to the father of gay marriage to "Grab her by the bleep".

We have said all along that we need to return to Reagan conservatism. Their last TWO candidates hated Reagan. McCain I'm not sure about but he sure didn't share his beliefs. This is why I believe that these people must be left to their own devices. They are nothing but impediments to conservatism. They can either learn the hard way on their own, or not learn at all. Either way they are useless to conservatism and to America.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Only because of the Hispanic angle.   "Young Person of Color"  beats "Hateful old White Psycho Crone."   

Well, yeah.  That's the point!

I'm sure there would have been some speedbumps along with the way. But with the exception of the Christie fiasco that came from being overly-scripted on a particular question, I thought he was pretty good on his feet.

My concern is really the demographics -- not as much racial/ethnic but rather age.  There was a time in the early 80's where young people were actually more conservative.  And I thought Rubio had a better chance to connect with the younger generation, and perhaps open up their minds to more conservative ideas, than anyone else running.  I thought getting that wedge in with younger voters could have been something that saved us moving forward.

Now, though, not only are we behind the 8 ball with all minorities, but with the young as well.  That ain't encouraging.  But I'd agree he largely had himself to blame.  He crewed up on the gang of 8, and whatever chance he had to win despite that, he blew in the New Hampshire debate.

[HonestJohn]

They either have short memories,  or are inattentive. 

Yes,  they would have spanked Rubio,  and probably a lot worse than they have been spanking Trump.

Of course, the only one bringing this up is a Trump supporter.

[DiogenesLamp]

No, you arent alone. And that is exactly what upsets the Trumpians so deeply. They can spout all the crap they like about how meaningless we are but it rings hollow considering how often they are obliged to say it.

And of course the dawning horror for them that they DID need us. But as conservatives, we do NOT need or WANT them. We are as you said, right where we have always been. Standing on our principles. If that means we lose, so be it. Winning with a liberal is no victory I am interested in.

They can either come to our way of thinking, or not. But here we will be.

BLAMELESS.

Oh God! Another piety oration on a soap box.   I can just hear "Battle Hymn of the Republic"  playing in the background.   


I think it is more accurately described as a desperate plea for attention.   "Look at me!   I'm Moral and Upright,  not like that publican over there! "   

[DiogenesLamp]

Yeah, that's because he keeps saying kooky things.

He did say some kooky things,  but we all say kooky things from time to time.   Look at this lot right here! 

[Norm Lenhart]

Oh God! Another piety oration on a soap box.   I can just hear "Battle Hymn of the Republic"  playing in the background.   


I think it is more accurately described as a desperate plea for attention.   "Look at me!   I'm Moral and Upright,  not like that publican over there! "

Truth hurts sometimes. Deal with it or don't. I'm not going to stop saying it because it offends you, but I will in fact say it more because truth offends you.

[Norm Lenhart]

He did say some kooky things,  but we all say kooky things from time to time.   Look at this lot right here!

Indeed. Any of your posts on this thread qualify.