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Paul Ryan: 'Republicans need to come home' on Trump.
« on: November 02, 2016, 03:59:12 pm »
 (CNN)House Speaker Paul Ryan on Wednesday urged Republicans to vote for their party's candidates -- including the GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump -- in what could be his final pitch before Election Day.
"Republicans need to come home," Ryan said during an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt. "Republicans need to vote."

Ryan confirmed this week that he cast an early vote for Trump in Wisconsin, warning that a Hillary Clinton presidency would bring a torrent of scandals and investigations.

But Ryan's recent expressions of support for the real estate mogul mark something of a change...

Read more at: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/02/politics/paul-ryan-republicans-come-home-donald-trump/index.html
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Re: Paul Ryan: 'Republicans need to come home' on Trump.
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2016, 04:19:43 pm »
Ryan is the epitome of neocon hypocrisy.

His days as speaker are numbered.

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Re: Paul Ryan: 'Republicans need to come home' on Trump.
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 04:20:55 pm »
Ryan is the epitome of neocon hypocrisy.

His days as speaker are numbered.

I agree. Ryan supporting Donny like this will get him thrown out of the Speakership.

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Re: Paul Ryan: 'Republicans need to come home' on Trump.
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 04:23:19 pm »
Ryan is the epitome of neocon hypocrisy.

His days as speaker are numbered.
 

That's wishful thinking.  There is simply nobody on the horizon who has enough support to take his place, plus most House members like him and will vote to retain him as Speaker. 

Your hatred of Ryan is noted, but you don't get a vote in the Speakership.
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Re: Paul Ryan: 'Republicans need to come home' on Trump.
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2016, 04:46:29 pm »
If anything gets me to change my mind at the 11th hour about Trump,  it's ObamaCare.   It simply has to be fixed, and I know damn well that Clinton will only make it worse.     
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Re: Paul Ryan: 'Republicans need to come home' on Trump.
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2016, 04:46:50 pm »
(CNN)House Speaker Paul Ryan on Wednesday urged Republicans to vote for their party's candidates

I am no longer affiliated with the Republican party.  This year's convention and candidate have finally convinced me that the Republican party is no longer the party for conservatives.  I have always been a conservative.  As such, I switched to the Constitution Party and will vote for my candidates first, and Republicans second.

To Republicans - you ran me off along with other conservatives.  Your candidate's operatives are talking about purging conservatives from the party.  Now you whine that we need to come back.  Not going to happen.

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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2016, 04:48:27 pm »
If anything gets me to change my mind at the 11th hour about Trump,  it's ObamaCare.   It simply has to be fixed, and I know damn well that Clinton will only make it worse.   

Obamacare can't be fixed - period.
Neither can Hillarycare, or Romneycare or even Trumpcare.  Government involvement in health care needs to STOP.  Repeal and do not replace.  End it, kill it and assign it to the dustbin of history.

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2016, 04:49:34 pm »
I am no longer affiliated with the Republican party.  This year's convention and candidate have finally convinced me that the Republican party is no longer the party for conservatives.  I have always been a conservative.  As such, I switched to the Constitution Party and will vote for my candidates first, and Republicans second.

To Republicans - you ran me off along with other conservatives.  Your candidate's operatives are talking about purging conservatives from the party.  Now you whine that we need to come back.  Not going to happen.

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Re: Paul Ryan: 'Republicans need to come home' on Trump.
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2016, 04:57:37 pm »
Bush, Dole, Bushx2, McCain, Romney, Trump.

Come "home"?  To what?

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2016, 04:58:27 pm »
Cruz came up with a plan to replace Bammycare over a year ago.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/234499-cruz-unveils-obamacare-alternative
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2016, 04:58:43 pm »
Obamacare can't be fixed - period.
Neither can Hillarycare, or Romneycare or even Trumpcare.  Government involvement in health care needs to STOP.  Repeal and do not replace.  End it, kill it and assign it to the dustbin of history.

You're dreaming.  The government has traditionally been involved in regulating the business of insurance.   But you're right - government regulation of health care financing (that is, health care insurance) should have as little impact as possible on the doctor-patient relationship.   

As for how to fix ObamaCare consistent with conservative principles,  you don't seem willing to listen but I've posted my ideas on the subject before. 

 
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  Some easy fixes,  from someone who's written a book on the subject:   

Get rid of the employer mandate.   People can only afford health care if they're working full time.

Allow real competition in the ACA exchanges, not just as to copays and deductibles for gold-plated coverage,  but also options for more limited coverage including catastrophic-only coverage.   

Allow insurers more latitude to price policies based on age  (the current 3 to 1 ratio forces the young to subsidize the old,  and the cost of coverage causes many young people, quite rationally, to decline coverage).   

Encourage simple employer health reimbursement accounts to allow employees to purchase individual health coverage in the ACA exchanges.   That's the single most effective means for getting younger lives into the individual insurance marketplace and curbing the current premium death spiral.  It also lets employers get out of the health insurance business and get back to making widgets. 

DON'T mandate, as many conservatives want,  competition across state lines.  The states should retain their traditional sovereignty to regulate the insurance marketplace.   But at the same time, free up the states to allow less costly, less comprehensive options in their ACA exchanges.   

And, of course, the no-brainer  -  medical malpractice/tort reform.     
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2016, 05:16:09 pm »
I agree. Ryan supporting Donny like this will get him thrown out of the Speakership.

I see what you did there.

On a side note, have you ever known anyone who isn't a Democrat use the term 'neocon' before?
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2016, 05:17:45 pm »
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Paul Ryan: 'Republicans need to come home' on Trump.

Perhaps Trump should come home to being a Conservative first.

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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2016, 05:18:41 pm »
Obamacare can't be fixed - period.
Neither can Hillarycare, or Romneycare or even Trumpcare.  Government involvement in health care needs to STOP.  Repeal and do not replace.  End it, kill it and assign it to the dustbin of history.

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Re: Paul Ryan: 'Republicans need to come home' on Trump.
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2016, 05:18:48 pm »
Obamacare can't be fixed - period.
Neither can Hillarycare, or Romneycare or even Trumpcare.  Government involvement in health care needs to STOP.  Repeal and do not replace.  End it, kill it and assign it to the dustbin of history.

You are speaking my language.  Well done!
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2016, 05:23:37 pm »
Conservatives need to turn and run away from Trump