SMOKING GUN! Wikileaks Email Shows Intent to Destroy Emails After Reports on Secret Email Server

[mystery-ak]

SMOKING GUN! Wikileaks Email Shows Intent to Destroy Emails After Reports on Secret Email Server

Jim Hoft Nov 1st, 2016 11:10 am

WIKILEAKS DISCOVERS THE SMOKING GUN–

The Clinton Campaign discussed destroying email evidence after story broke nationally that Hillary Clinton had an illegal homebrew server for her emails.

On March 2, 2015 The New York Times reported that Hillary Clinton used a personal email server as Secretary of State.

On March 2, 2015 Hillary Clinton’s top aide and attorney wrote John Podesta that “we are going to have to dump all those emails.”

They are finally busted.
Congratulations, Wikileaks. You did it.

more
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/smoking-gun-wikileaks-email-shows-intent-destroy-emails-reports-secret-email-server/

[ABX]

I need to find that email and read more into the context because I saw other references to the term 'dump' and it wasn't used as to 'delete' but to just download all of them at once to the press to overwhelm them (as in document dump). Add to that, the twitter they are getting this context from, 'Micro Spooky Leaks' has pushed some fake narratives before and is quite suspect (look at their twitter timeline to understand).

[ABX]

Found the source email for context.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/41841

[thackney]

Found the source email for context.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/41841

Thanks for that

[Major Confusion]

Just don't be surprised when Lucy pulls the football away...again.

[ABX]

This gives a bit of context for how they use the term 'dump' as in document dump, not 'delete'.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/40249

...Want to flag that if you look at the email in this link, HRC's email is
> redacted. But in yesrterday's new york times dump, the same email is
> unredacted. Could it be because Committee leaked?.....


There are 119 results for the term 'dump' I can find in the Podesta emails and they all (that are in context) refer to it like 'document dump'

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?q=dump&mfrom=&mto=&title=&notitle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=6&page=2&#searchresult

[ABX]

OK, this does confirm my thoughts. A later email thread on the subject labeled "Email Dump Thread" specifically addresses a document dump re the DNC leaks, not a delete. It gives one an idea how they use this term in their communication language.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5702

            
            
Fwd: FW: Email dump thread

            

               From:slatham@hillaryclinton.com
               To: john.podesta@gmail.com
               Date: 2015-11-30 21:48
               Subject: Fwd: FW: Email dump thread
               
            


         

            

               flagging email chain w/you and Neera -

11/11/10
<https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRCEmail_NovWeb/08628IA/DOC_0C05772938/C05772938.pdf>
–
CDM forwards HRC email thread between Neera Tanden and John Podesta on WH
caving on tax cuts. Podesta criticizes Axelrod, “At least David has his
principles in tact like he won’t be for small things like school uniforms –
only big things like totally caving in to right wing economics.
Unbelievable.” [MISC]

*From:* incoming@hillaryclinton.com [mailto:incoming@hillaryclinton.com] *On
Behalf Of *Shiah Shahmohammadi
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 5:33 PM
*To:* Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
*Cc:* Rob Flaherty <rflaherty@hillaryclinton.com>; Josh Schwerin <
jschwerin@hillaryclinton.com>; Incoming <incoming@hillaryclinton.com>;
Research <research@hillaryclinton.com>
*Subject:* Re: Email dump thread


11/11/10
<https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRCEmail_NovWeb/08628IA/DOC_0C05772938/C05772938.pdf>
– CDM forwards HRC email thread between Neera Tanden and John Podesta on WH
caving on tax cuts. Podesta criticizes Axelrod, “At least David has his
principles in tact like he won’t be for small things like school uniforms –
only big things like totally caving in to right wing economics.
Unbelievable.” [MISC]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

https://twitter.com/StephenGutowski/status/671455397174226944

Hillary tries, fails to use the term "ROFL" properly

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/671445566019235841

Hillary had someone else respond to happy b-day wishes from her personal IT
guy, BPags.

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/671451304120688640

Talk about cryptic

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

This was in the last dump wasn't it?

https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/671442096285458434

Amid chaos in Syria, Hillary Clinton asked for directions to "Washington's
premier gift and accessories retailer"

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

https://twitter.com/cam_joseph/status/671444419632046080

.@*HillaryClinton* <https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton> & aides seemingly
very focused on how her early Benghazi response would be perceived down the
line

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

The tweet is links to this PDF. Copied and pasted for clarity.

https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRCEmail_NovWeb/313/DOC_0C05797984/C05797984.pdf

From: Jake Sullivan

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:02 AM

To: preines

Cc: H; CDM

Subject: Re; Testimony


My problem with Mark's analysis is that it repeats the same flawed
assumption that underpinned his advice in 2008;

namely, that being yourself is risky.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

libruhl media

https://twitter.com/PostRoz/status/671442494148747264

Apparently, Hillary Clinton once sent Barbara Walters an orchid. (Or an
"orchid plant," as she called it."

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Rob Flaherty <rflaherty@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

*Chris Cillizza**Verified account*‏@TheFix <https://twitter.com/TheFix>

So.....

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4:32 PM - 30 Nov 2015

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

https://twitter.com/CahnEmily/status/671440069983649793

Always the best in Clinton emails: Messages from @*SenatorBarb*
<https://twitter.com/SenatorBarb>'s blackberry: "so fit n sparkly"

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Rob Flaherty <rflaherty@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

[image: jim_newell's avatar] <https://twitter.com/jim_newell>

*Jim Newell* <https://twitter.com/jim_newell>

@jim_newell <https://twitter.com/jim_newell>

first thing i do with any new Clinton email batch is search "lanny davis"
foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCU… <https://t.co/4oSWezXVbS>

4:24pm · 30 Nov 2015
<https://twitter.com/jim_newell/status/671439694358560768> · Twitter Web
Client <http://twitter.com/>

   - *2* LIKES <https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/>
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

In which a joke Jake tries to pull gets blown up by a coworker.

https://twitter.com/AnnieLinskey/status/671439260407459840

Oh! Hate it when one sucking up co-worker ruins the joke.

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/671438740179546112

Hillary Clinton: "Having a cracked head is no fun at all" (Then asks for a
copy of an email she sent out earlier)

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

Gensler

https://twitter.com/AnnieLinskey/status/671438653651075072

Where the future financial chairman of HRC's campaign asks for career
advice.

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Josh Schwerin <jschwerin@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

User Actions

 Following

*Matt Viser**Verified account*‏@mviser <https://twitter.com/mviser>

Forwarded to Hillary Clinton: "How to deal with a mansplainer starring
Hillary Clinton in gifs"

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

Hillary asks "Why are liberals the world over so politically hopeless?"

https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/671437703490248704

Blumenthal flagged dispatch from his son on Egypt's liberal party, Clinton
calls liberals "politically hopeless"

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

Fully redacted email on Kochs

https://twitter.com/polly/status/671437215638134784

Latest batch of #*HillaryClinton*
<https://twitter.com/hashtag/HillaryClinton?src=hash> emails includes fully
redacted email about the Koch brothers http://bit.ly/1RhqhFg
<https://t.co/USaTgLSOzr>

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

Sid chimes in on Republican rape comments in 2012.

https://twitter.com/bassalid/status/671436929372655616

HRC on "Republican rape rage"

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

Sid was a fan of Hillary wearing glasses at 2013 Benghazi hearing.

https://twitter.com/alweaver22/status/671436596651147264

In which Sid Blumenthal was a big fan of Hillary wearing glasses at
Congressional testimony on the Benghazi attack..

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Matt Ortega <mortega@hillaryclinton.com>
wrote:

Bill Frist sighting...

https://twitter.com/katherinemiller/status/671434933324353541

Reines reaches out to Bill Frist to help with concussion news cycle and
Frist responds...
https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRCEmail_NovWeb/284/DOC_0C05793677/C05793677.pdf
…
<https://t.co/kmMp7gleiN>

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Followed by Roger Goodell

https://twitter.com/katherinemiller/status/671435697748893698

And... Roger Goodell

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[r9etb]

I need to find that email and read more into the context because I saw other references to the term 'dump' and it wasn't used as to 'delete' but to just download all of them at once to the press to overwhelm them (as in document dump). Add to that, the twitter they are getting this context from, 'Micro Spooky Leaks' has pushed some fake narratives before and is quite suspect (look at their twitter timeline to understand).

The OP was written by Jim Hoft, who can be counted upon to provide the most breathless (and usually incorrect) interpretation....

[Frank Cannon]

The OP was written by Jim Hoft, who can be counted upon to provide the most breathless (and usually incorrect) interpretation....

That's an understatement. Jim is a full out Alt Right kook.

[ABX]

The other thing that makes this not work from GP's story perspective is they are saying this was discovered and the order to 'dump' the emails happened in March 2015. However, that was long after HRC's team released the 55K emails to the State Department in 2014 months before this email was written so the email reference here doesn't seem to be related to HRC's email.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-hillary-clintons-email-saga/story?id=29442707

[r9etb]

The other thing that makes this not work from GP's story perspective is they are saying this was discovered and the order to 'dump' the emails happened in March 2015. However, that was long after HRC's team released the 55K emails to the State Department in 2014 months before this email was written so the email reference here doesn't seem to be related to HRC's email.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-hillary-clintons-email-saga/story?id=29442707

Yes.  So I think your interpretation of "dump" -- as in dump them all to provide them en masse -- is the correct one.

Podesta is talking about it from a political perspective and his view seems to be that it will be very damaging to parcel them out piecemeal: better to just bow to the inevitable early, and provide them all  in a big dump.  Turns out Podesta was right.

[ABX]

Here is more confirmation that this wasn't in reference to 'deleting emails', this was from about a week prior and just more confirmation that State already had HRC's emails and they were discussing having her staff also release all their personal emails to HRC to the committee just to overload them (and prove a point).

If they were referring to a dump in the source email above, it may be referring to dumping these on the committee.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/40715

[ABX]

I think I found a clear description of what they meant. Right before the 'dump' email, they posted this one describing what they would do and why. It is about a document dump, giving them too many to go through versus just one they had to argue against.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/39881

(snipped)

We should put out the 300. If Gowdy is leaking this fact, we have to just put the emails out and say, those are they. > On Mar 17, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Philippe Reines <pir@hrcoffice.com> wrote: > > Nick, can you get a sense of timing from the NYT, that's a big piece. > > And reading his note, I'm not sure they have specific email as much as they have the mere fact that it happened. Truthfully, specific email would be far easier to address, especially if it's among what went to the Hill in February. > > > From: Robby Mook > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:04 PM > To: Jennifer Palmieri > Cc: Philippe Reines; John Podesta; Nick Merrill; Cheryl Mills; Heather Samuelson; Huma Abedin; Jacob Sullivan > Subject: Re: NYT | Email Content > > Agree > Marissa can sched if you need > > > > On Mar 17, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Jennifer Palmieri <jennifer.m.palmieri@gmail.com> wrote: > >> + Robby and John >> >> Strikes me as a big problem that the NYT is having selected emails leaked to them and I I think we should do a call to discuss the proper way to handle.