Genetically Engineered Humans Will Arrive Sooner Than U Think. & We're Not Ready

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http://www.vox.com/conversations/2016/10/24/13357298/michael-bess-biotechnology-bioengineering-technology-revolution-science

"What's happening is bigger than any one of us": a conversation with historian Michael Bess.

Updated by Sean Illing@seanillingsean.illing@vox.com Oct 24, 2016, 8:50a

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Artificial intelligence has become the pet anxiety of luminaries like Elon Musk, Bill Gates, and Stephen Hawking. They have all expressed concerns about our Promethean quest to develop machine intelligence, and those concerns seem to be spreading every day.
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Michael Bess is a historian of science at Vanderbilt University and the author of a fascinating new book, Our Grandchildren Redesigned: Life in a Bioengineered Society. Bess’s book offers a sweeping look at our genetically modified future, a future as terrifying as it is promising.
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You say in this book that bioengineering will be the next great technological wave to wash over humanity, and that it will cut more deeply than any of the industrial revolutions of the past.

That's a pretty strong statement. Can you explain what you mean?
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I'm very skeptical that God's going to allow us to get very far down that road.
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I think the oligarchy is also intent on crashing and burning the old order so much to the ground that even IF God Almighty were not in the picture, it would still take a very long time to recover and implement such schemes.
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I do think we will get far enough down that road--particularly along the lines of the 'super warrior'--in order to cause some serious and interesting ethical problems. We may well already be at that point in the black projects.
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Certainly the same 'government' that brings us the every failed government boondoggle for decades, OThugacare etc. will obviously do a splendid job of remaking mankind in their image! /sarc
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The historian Michael Bess claims that we can channel progress down channels more in line with our values.

Oh, really? And how well have we done doing that in recent decades? We have more high tech horror, blood, mayhem etc. in our media . . . more hideousness about bathrooms and marrying one's dog or beer drinking group . . . suggestions that parents be allowed to kill their children up to age 6 for whatever reason . . . etc. That doesn't leave me with any faith whatsoever that as a culture or as leaders in a culture . . . anyone would successfully channel the new tech engineering our future prodigy down constructive channels.

We can't even put up remotely tolerable decent Presidential candidates. Sheesh.

But the article is meaty and thought provoking.

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[Free Vulcan]

It wouldn't surprise me if it's already happening. One of the reasons why God will have to step in, because creation itself is going to be changed to something unrecognizeable.

[Quix]

It wouldn't surprise me if it's already happening. One of the reasons why God will have to step in, because creation itself is going to be changed to something unrecognizeable.

I certainly don't doubt that a lot of black projects are well down that road.

I certainly agree that Almighty God Yehovah WILL step in . . . He tends to view Creation as His exclusive turf in such regards.

I'm thankful that the black projects have not surfaced broadly in the general culture with such tech--yet.

[dfwgator]

I certainly don't doubt that a lot of black projects are well down that road.

I certainly agree that Almighty God Yehovah WILL step in . . . He tends to view Creation as His exclusive turf in such regards.

I'm thankful that the black projects have not surfaced broadly in the general culture with such tech--yet.

Man goes to God and says, "We don't need you anymore, we can create life just like you did from dirt."

God says, "Ok, show me."

Man picks up some dirt.

God says, "Oh no, go make your own dirt, first."

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

It wouldn't surprise me if it's already happening. One of the reasons why God will have to step in, because creation itself is going to be changed to something unrecognizeable.

How would God step in, exactly?

[Quix]

How would God step in, exactly?

His creativity about how to step in is not any more limited than any of His other creativity.

He could merely say STOP! regarding all efforts in such regards . . .

He could assign angels to exterminate all the evil doers working in such matters.

He could begin the last 7 years of human and fallen angel rule . . . at the end of which THE KING WILL REIGN, having destroyed all the evil doers at Armageddon.

He could begin to insure that experiment after experiment failed miserably.

He could foster a revival of sanity and ethics (not likely at this point in the rush to Armageddon).

[Free Vulcan]

 

How would God step in, exactly?

It all depends on whether you believe the Book of Revelation or not.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

It all depends on whether you believe the Book of Revelation or not.

Some sort of Rapture kinda' deal?

[Free Vulcan]

Some sort of Rapture kinda' deal?

More like the Second Coming.

[Smokin Joe]

His creativity about how to step in is not any more limited than any of His other creativity.

He could merely say STOP! regarding all efforts in such regards . . .

He could assign angels to exterminate all the evil doers working in such matters.

He could begin the last 7 years of human and fallen angel rule . . . at the end of which THE KING WILL REIGN, having destroyed all the evil doers at Armageddon.

He could begin to insure that experiment after experiment failed miserably.

He could foster a revival of sanity and ethics (not likely at this point in the rush to Armageddon).

It seems every time we get close to understanding the human brain, civilization falls apart. Skulls showing evidence of neurosurgery from over a thousand years ago have been found, some with evidence of having healed or been operated on again.
Where are the civilizations? Defunct.

It only takes the ravings of the mob to kill key people in any suck program, an epidemic, a war, and the libraries are burned and knowledge lost. Can't happen in the digital age? How much is actually on paper? Our technologies and reservoirs of knowledge are more fragile than we would want to believe. EMP or solar flare could wipe out much of the tech we depend on and easily set humans back 100 years or more, something the skill sets are not there for. Likely that would lead to a time of violence, and with the subsequent destruction and the elimination of that cutting edge, technologically, the setback would be severe.

[Quix]

It seems every time we get close to understanding the human brain, civilization falls apart. Skulls showing evidence of neurosurgery from over a thousand years ago have been found, some with evidence of having healed or been operated on again.
Where are the civilizations? Defunct.

It only takes the ravings of the mob to kill key people in any suck program, an epidemic, a war, and the libraries are burned and knowledge lost. Can't happen in the digital age? How much is actually on paper? Our technologies and reservoirs of knowledge are more fragile than we would want to believe. EMP or solar flare could wipe out much of the tech we depend on and easily set humans back 100 years or more, something the skill sets are not there for. Likely that would lead to a time of violence, and with the subsequent destruction and the elimination of that cutting edge, technologically, the setback would be severe.

Good points, imho.

I've often wondered . . .

It appears like, sounds like . . . this planet is a training ground/boot camp for those who will

rule and reign with Christ over endless ages and countless planets?

And that the major aspect of training is toward learning humility and love.

And that a more agricultural culture and technology is quite sufficient--even better--for teaching those things than an 'advanced' tech culture wherein folks mostly escape from each other while being chronically desperate for relationship, connectedness and a sense of belonging.

Sooooo . . . maybe God mushes things over periodically to reduce the planet back to the basics of life and relationships?

[Smokin Joe]

Good points, imho.

I've often wondered . . .

It appears like, sounds like . . . this planet is a training ground/boot camp for those who will

rule and reign with Christ over endless ages and countless planets?

And that the major aspect of training is toward learning humility and love.

And that a more agricultural culture and technology is quite sufficient--even better--for teaching those things than an 'advanced' tech culture wherein folks mostly escape from each other while being chronically desperate for relationship, connectedness and a sense of belonging.

Sooooo . . . maybe God mushes things over periodically to reduce the planet back to the basics of life and relationships?

Aside from Him, all we have is those around us, and what we can do together to glean the resources we need from what things are there. Those with wealth may lose sight of that, but without that to inspire some semblance of loyalty, what do they have left? If they are good and humble people, they inspire those around them to be loyal regardless, out of love, not fear. Fear will only go so far before it becomes resentment and then hatred. Love ever has room to grow.

[Quix]

Aside from Him, all we have is those around us, and what we can do together to glean the resources we need from what things are there. Those with wealth may lose sight of that, but without that to inspire some semblance of loyalty, what do they have left? If they are good and humble people, they inspire those around them to be loyal regardless, out of love, not fear. Fear will only go so far before it becomes resentment and then hatred. Love ever has room to grow.

Absolutely, indeed!

Very well put.

I'm trying to figure out whether to post a new thread or put a sensitive Hodges thing in a current thread. Your point about fear and hate is extremely apt.

And the idiot elite at the top continue to be snookered by satan himself to their own extreme suffering in due course. First, they make the planet suffer. Sigh