What happens to the GOP on Nov. 9th?

[Norm Lenhart]

I'll tell you what better happen, Reince Preibus had better be out of a job.

They will just put a bigger Dem apologist in there to reach across the aisle. That's the GOP pattern. And that's why it's a fools quest to stay associated with that organization in any capacity or pretending someone will 'fix' it.

[Night Hides Not]

My choice for the next Speaker is Dave Brat. Every time I see him on TV, he's articulate and conversational, but without Ted Cruz's imperious manner.

[geronl]

My choice for the next Speaker is Dave Brat. Every time I see him on TV, he's articulate and conversational, but without Ted Cruz's imperious manner.

Ted's not seeking that job. He has better things to do.

[ExFreeper]

The GOP has already thought about the future and has new reinforcements on the way:

[ABX]

The GOP has already thought about the future and has new reinforcements on the way:

By way of three registred democrats.

[geronl]

The GOP will have to change their platform to one that encourages groping, legalizes sexual harassment and forgives politicians who had cocaine and sex parties with underage models.

All of awful "Ned Flanders types" with out standards and decency will have to go and find a new political home.

[txradioguy]

My choice for the next Speaker is Dave Brat. Every time I see him on TV, he's articulate and conversational, but without Ted Cruz's imperious manner.

Brat would be an excellent choice for Speaker.

[geronl]

Brat would be an excellent choice for Speaker.

but the throwing in an attack against Ted Cruz was weird.

[Jazzhead]

The GOP needs to decide whether it is the party of effective, limited, Constitutionally-constrained government,  or the party of racialists and xenophobes.   Myself, I'm looking forward to the electorate's repudiation of Trumpism, in the hope that a party focused on our traditional values can re-emerge.   As for the racialist/xenophobic "base", if they end up abandoning the GOP, then SOLID!   That crowd belongs, like its counterparts in Europe, in a third party and not in a broad coalition party of fiscal, social and national security conservatives.

Of course,  it's quite relevant to ask whether there remains a suitably broad coalition of fiscal, social and national security conservatives.   The rise of the TEA party in 2010 suggests there still is, as far from my own rather outdated views the TEA party may be.   If we consider Ted Cruz and Mike Pence the titular leaders of the TEA party cohort of the conservative movement,  I see no reason to see why the movement cannot rise again behind such intellectually sound and articulate men.   The biggest question may well be one of tactics - should Republicans reflexively defy Clinton,  or adopt the attitude of the Gingrich Congress and work to establish a pedigree of positive policy accomplishment?   I know which approach I'd personally prefer,  but I have no idea what is the best tactic to maximize our ability to recover our losses in the next off-year election.   A lot of voters are angry,  but it's unclear whether they are angry at creeping liberalism per se, or Washington gridlock.   

 

[HonestJohn]

The GOP needs to decide whether it is the party of effective, limited, Constitutionally-constrained government,  or the party of racialists and xenophobes.   Myself, I'm looking forward to the electorate's repudiation of Trumpism, in the hope that a party focused on our traditional values can re-emerge.   As for the racialist/xenophobic "base", if they end up abandoning the GOP, then SOLID!   That crowd belongs, like its counterparts in Europe, in a third party and not in a broad coalition party of fiscal, social and national security conservatives.

Of course,  it's quite relevant to ask whether there remains a suitably broad coalition of fiscal, social and national security conservatives.   The rise of the TEA party in 2010 suggests there still is, as far from my own rather outdated views the TEA party may be.   If we consider Ted Cruz and Mike Pence the titular leaders of the TEA party cohort of the conservative movement,  I see no reason to see why the movement cannot rise again behind such intellectually sound and articulate men.   The biggest question may well be one of tactics - should Republicans reflexively defy Clinton,  or adopt the attitude of the Gingrich Congress and work to establish a pedigree of positive policy accomplishment?   I know which approach I'd personally prefer,  but I have no idea what is the best tactic to maximize our ability to recover our losses in the next off-year election.   A lot of voters are angry,  but it's unclear whether they are angry at creeping liberalism per se, or Washington gridlock.   

 

My personal view is that it's the gridlock on even the most basic of government functions... like a budget.

[Night Hides Not]

but the throwing in an attack against Ted Cruz was weird.

Not meant as an attack on Cruz, but Ted did turn off a lot of people with his speaking style. His message did not translate well to the average American. He'll fix that by 2018, I'm sure of that. Ted's still my guy, even if he did eventually endorse Trump. For now, Brat's delivery and style is superior.

[Wingnut]

The GOP has already thought about the future and has new reinforcements on the way:

Good God. They look like the spawn of Eddie Munster and Wednesday Addams.

They're creepy and they're kooky,
mysterious and spooky,
They're all together ooky,
The Trump Family

[Luis Gonzalez]

What happens to the GOP on Nov. 9th?

The natural process continues moving from the rigor mortis stage to actual decomposition.

Apparently, it was the GOP Trump that shot dead in the middle of Fifth Avenue, and he was right... his supporters didn't care.

[DiogenesLamp]

No difference at all. They gave Obama all his main issues, tanked their presidential elections 3 times running and actually devolved into Democrats to get Cochran elected.

You are actually saying some stuff I can agree with.   


It's like we have an entire Congress full of George HW Bushs. 

[DiogenesLamp]

Every one of these people except the guy third from the left (third from the left) have publicly announced they will be supporting Hillary Clinton for president.

And he is the only one of the group for which I have the slightest degree of respect.   I loathe those lying snakes that accepted our support under false pretenses.   

[HonestJohn]

What happens to the GOP on Nov. 9th?

The natural process continues moving from the rigor mortis stage to actual decomposition.

Apparently, it was the GOP Trump that shot dead in the middle of Fifth Avenue, and he was right... his supporters didn't care.

The GOP is already talking about refusing to hold hearings for any and all nominees to the Supreme Court for the entire time Hillary is in office.  No matter how many justices retire/die.

This is just one more example of why people are leaving the GOP.

[DiogenesLamp]

The GOP is already talking about refusing to hold hearings for any and all nominees to the Supreme Court for the entire time Hillary is in office.  No matter how many justices retire/die.

I don't think they have the balls.   There will be a "gang of 8"  led by McCain that will join the Democrats in helping them pass their agenda.   

This is just one more example of why people are leaving the GOP.

They are making noises about doing something that requires courage and integrity and you think that is the reason people are leaving the GOP? 

[HonestJohn]

I don't think they have the balls.   There will be a "gang of 8"  led by McCain that will join the Democrats in helping them pass their agenda.   

They are making noises about doing something that requires courage and integrity and you think that is the reason people are leaving the GOP?

Two things:

1. McCain was the one who first brought this up.
2. Undermining the Constitution for political gain is not something people like.

[DiogenesLamp]

Two things:

1. McCain was the one who first brought this up.

He's running for re-election you know.   He plays this game every six years,   and Arizonians are fools if they believe him this time.   As soon as he is safely elected,  he'll go right back to his usual form of stabbing Conservatives in the back. 

2. Undermining the Constitution for political gain is not something people like.

Well,  first of all,   it isn't undermining the constitution,  it is complying with it by exercising the constitutional prerogative which the Senate is granted.   

Second of all,   the "people"  like,  whatever it is the New York Liberal Democrat ran media tell them they like.  Of course it is axiomatic that the New York Liberal Democrat ran media is going to tell the public they don't like this,  and they are going to do so 24-7 for months and months and months till they get their useful idiots all marching in the same direction.   


Congress doesn't have the balls to stand up to the New York Liberal Democrat ran media.    We've seen that over and over and over again.   


If the shoe were on the other foot and Democrats were holding up a Conservative President's nominees,  the New York Liberal Democrat ran media would be applauding every second of it,  and pointing out how very very constitutional it is.    They would be celebrating dissent in America and the separation of powers granted to us by that document for which they normally have little use. 

Count on it. 

[Norm Lenhart]

You are actually saying some stuff I can agree with.   


It's like we have an entire Congress full of George HW Bushs.

Been saying it for a long time now. Ultimately, love Trump or despise him, The GOP has -already- done more damage catering to Obama and putting on their show than America will ever recover from. Thats why some of us harp on electing principled people. Because the lesser evils people 'compromised' their way int office are what and who did this damage.

Dems are Dems. To stop Dems we have to empower people that oppose, not agree, with Dems. The GOP agrees with dems and the proof is Obama's win/loss record and a 20+Trillion dollar debt. Dems did not give Obama all that. The GOP did when they caved in time after time.

And they will CONTINUE to do it whether Trump wins or loses.

[Bigun]

What happens to the GOP on Nov. 9th?

I could care less!  As far as I'm concerned the GOP committed suicide on July 18 of this year. I'm done!

[HAPPY2BME]

The GOP needs to decide whether it is the party of effective, limited, Constitutionally-constrained government,  or the party of racialists and xenophobes.   

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[DiogenesLamp]

Been saying it for a long time now. Ultimately, love Trump or despise him, The GOP has -already- done more damage catering to Obama and putting on their show than America will ever recover from. Thats why some of us harp on electing principled people. Because the lesser evils people 'compromised' their way int office are what and who did this damage.

We keep electing what we *THINK*  are principled people,  and I believe we often do,   but when they get to Washington D.C.  a transformation often occurs.   It is a rare man that can resist it.

I have been to Washington D.C. .   It is an eerie place,  full of some spirit that I can feel at the edge of my consciousness and which tugs on people's minds.   The wealth,  the culture,  and the dominant media of that place exerts a force on people urging them to go along with the dominant mindset.    The problems of Americans in other places just seem far away when you are in D.C.   


But getting back to the point,  some of the people whom we elect and whom we think are principled are merely good at fooling us.   

In 1994 we elected a LOT of principled people to take on and stymie Bill Clinton.   The Media was in Shock,  and so was that slimy bastard Clinton,  and everything was going great.....   till that f***ing nut-job blew up that building in Oklahoma City.    *THAT*  is when everything changed. 


The media got their voice back and went into attack mode.  Clinton was newly invigorated and the entire nation  was turned against the ideas of these radical Republicans who came to town to tame the Federal Government.   They were portrayed as hate mongers,  racists,  anti-American Militia types who didn't care about the old or the poor.   

The needed reforms were all blunted.  A golden opportunity to restore sanity to the Nation's capitol was lost.   

Dems are Dems. To stop Dems we have to empower people that oppose, not agree, with Dems. The GOP agrees with dems and the proof is Obama's win/loss record and a 20+Trillion dollar debt. Dems did not give Obama all that. The GOP did when they caved in time after time.

And they will CONTINUE to do it whether Trump wins or loses.

Yup.  All of the Democrat party and what appears to be MOST of the Republican party are now working for the same  pork barrel interests.    Both conspire to keep the money flowing to the "shadow government"  of the Democrat Media Industrial complex.   

The nation is ruled by an elite group of people,  most of which live between D.C. and Boston,  with New York being more or less the center of this social/financial elite.   

The media work for them,  and that's why it's Liberal.   Liberal policies enrich these people,  and so the media they own promulgates the message that Liberal policies are what we should have.   

[EC]

I have been to Washington D.C. .   It is an eerie place,  full of some spirit that I can feel at the edge of my consciousness and which tugs on people's minds.   

Nice description. It's raw, pure, power you are sensing/smelling.

Very addictive and very difficult to resist.

[Wingnut]

She is a beautiful leftist.  The boys are scary looking.  Sorry.  But they are.

Like father like son.  Creepers creep.