Anti-Trump Violence Sweeps the Nation

[Blizzardnh]

We now know that this intimidation is organized at the highest levels of the Democrat party and carried out by paid thugs or crazies.

These people are trained to disrupt events, start fights, and cause property damage, and they're at the beck and call of Clinton operatives.

#Nevertrump piggybacks on this organized political intimidation with their own brand of bullying, all of which gives rise to the shy or hidden Trump voter.

I wouldn't waste the the time Longmire  Just go vote Nov. 9 . I can't figure it out , if trump loses they know the end result and are fine with it . sounds like DU folks to me.

[Longmire]

Oh yeah? Who gives a shit. What should bother you is your crowd threatening me with retribution for daring to say FU to your Messiah. Open threats to people against Donny are happening constantly anymore. Hannity is inciting this every day for 4 hours. Trump spokespeople and advisors routinely make threats in a daily basis. 

@Frank Cannon this kind is the stuff I'm talking about not some internet nonsense.

On Sept. 28 in El Cajon, California, an angry mob at a Black Lives Matter protest beat 21-year-old Trump supporter Feras Jabro for wearing a "Make America Great Again" baseball cap. The assault was broadcast live using the smartphone app Periscope.

On Sept. 26 at Gustavus Adolphus College in St. Peter, Minnesota, as the first presidential debate was about to get underway, a woman wearing Trump campaign apparel was assaulted while heading to a debate watch event.

On Aug. 19 in Minneapolis, Minnesota, Trump supporters had to run a gauntlet of angry protesters to get into a Trump fundraiser at the Minneapolis Convention Center. When they left after the event they were hit, pushed, and spit on.

On Aug. 13 in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 68-year-old cancer survivor Vester Bullock was beaten at a garage sale because he wore a Trump pin on his hat.

On Aug. 12 in the West Hollywood neighborhood of Los Angeles, two women assaulted pro-Trump activist Tim Treadstone after a Trump rally. "This blonde girl grabbed my iPhone and threw it as hard as she could to the pavement," he said. "And before I could pick it up, the brunette who was throwing the food at people punched me in the head. My glasses and my hat flew off.
There were claw marks on my neck."

Don't be someone Trump would like to grab and compare your experience to theirs.

[txradioguy]

17. May 28, 2016 in San Diego, California. Trump supporters pepper-sprayed protesters outside a rally.

12. March 19, 2016, in Tucson, Arizona. A protester at a Trump rally was sucker-punched and kicked by a 32-year-old man who was then arrested on an assault charge.

11. March 19, 2016, in Tucson, Arizona. A Trump security official and Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski appeared to grab and pull a protester at the same Tucson rally.*

10. March 9, 2016, in Fayetteville, North Carolina. A black protester being escorted out of a Trump rally was sucker-punched by a white bystander:

9. March 8, 2016, in Jupiter, Florida. Politico reports that Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski "forcibly" grabbed a female reporter for the right-wing Breitbart news site, "nearly bringing her down to the ground," when she attempted to ask a question after a Trump press conference.

8. March 1, 2016, in Louisville, Kentucky. A black woman was surrounded and shoved by a number of individuals at a Trump rally.

6. Dec. 14, 2015, in Las Vegas. Individuals at a Trump rally yelled "Sieg Heil" and "light the motherfu*** on fire" toward a black protester who was being physically removed by security staffers.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/02/a_list_of_violent_incidents_at_donald_trump_rallies_and_events.html

[HonestJohn]

17. May 28, 2016 in San Diego, California. Trump supporters pepper-sprayed protesters outside a rally.

12. March 19, 2016, in Tucson, Arizona. A protester at a Trump rally was sucker-punched and kicked by a 32-year-old man who was then arrested on an assault charge.

11. March 19, 2016, in Tucson, Arizona. A Trump security official and Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski appeared to grab and pull a protester at the same Tucson rally.*

10. March 9, 2016, in Fayetteville, North Carolina. A black protester being escorted out of a Trump rally was sucker-punched by a white bystander:

9. March 8, 2016, in Jupiter, Florida. Politico reports that Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski "forcibly" grabbed a female reporter for the right-wing Breitbart news site, "nearly bringing her down to the ground," when she attempted to ask a question after a Trump press conference.

8. March 1, 2016, in Louisville, Kentucky. A black woman was surrounded and shoved by a number of individuals at a Trump rally.

6. Dec. 14, 2015, in Las Vegas. Individuals at a Trump rally yelled "Sieg Heil" and "light the motherfu*** on fire" toward a black protester who was being physically removed by security staffers.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/02/a_list_of_violent_incidents_at_donald_trump_rallies_and_events.html

Yeah.

Avid Trumpists don't understand that... as you sow, so shall you reap.

[musiclady]

I wouldn't waste the the time Longmire  Just go vote Nov. 9 . I can't figure it out , if trump loses they know the end result and are fine with it . sounds like DU folks to me.

@Blizzardnh

That's insanity.

NO one here is "fine" with the end result.  And NO one sounds like DU.

Everyone who opposes Trump does so because he is ideologically exactly like Clinton (a leftist, in case you weren't aware), and because he was the only one of the major candidates who could NOT defeat Hillary.

Yes, we are angry at the Trump primary voters because it is THEY who are damning us with a Clinton presidency, but the idea that we are pro-Hillary is an outright lie.

Don't do it again.

[kidd]

I'm totally fine with those who choose not to vote for Trump.  What bothers me is that so many of those who say they won't vote for either Trump or Hillary are basically firing all their ammo in one direction.  And the problem with that is that all those down-ticket Republicans get caught in that crossfire.  Yes, I know that Trump himself creates problems for those down-ticket Republicans, but it adds to that problem when so many in the GOP establishment and elsewhere enjoy the piling on too much to focus on the witch on the other side.

The influence that Trump has on down-ticket Republicans is over-emphasized.

I voted for Castle on my absentee ballot. My Connecticut vote will not help or hurt Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. The rest of my votes were for republicans, as the Constitution party had no other candidates running on the ballot in Connecticut. There was no extra effort to vote for lower office republicans.

I don't believe that the situation will be much different in most other states. There used to be a party line lever in the mechanical voting machines, but I don't think that the party line lever is very common anymore.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

@Jazzhead

I agree.  In many places including a lot of workplaces, there's a lot of public shaming of Trump supporters going on.  I think it's gotten bad enough that polls simply can't be trusted at this point.   I suspect that, like the recent Brexit vote,  support by "shamed" Trump backers isn't being picked up, and I'd suspect that there will be a similar gap in polled vs. actual support.  If the polls show Trump within, say, five percentage points, he may actually win.

I don't know -- I still think he's going to lose simply because he will have lost too much of the female vote.  But I'm really disturbed by the normalization of not only the public shaming, but actual violence against people because of who they support.  It's not just voter to voter -- it's fueled/accelerated/encouraged by a massive media bias that seeks to steer the results of our election in every way possible.  And I think it is at least tacitly encouraged by many in the other party.  Remember Obama urging people to "get in the face" of those who disagree with them?

For those of us who really pay attention and follow this stuff, that bias is not very effective, and we choose who to vote for based on our own beliefs/opinions.  But it can be a determinative bias for a lot of swing voters, and that's frightening.   The only real tool many of us have to combat that is to vote the exact opposite of how they want us to.  I'm not saying people should cast their vote on that basis, and I'm long past trying to convince people how to vote.  But I admit that the desire to push back against that bias significantly affected my own decision to vote for Trump.

Very sad that this is where we find ourselves.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

@Jazzhead

I don't know -- I still think he's going to lose simply because he will have lost too much of the female vote.  But I'm really disturbed by the normalization of not only the public shaming, but actual violence against people because of who they support.  It's not just voter to voter -- it's fueled/accelerated/encouraged by a massive media bias that seeks to steer the results of our election in every way possible.  And I think it is at least tacitly encouraged by many in the other party.  Remember Obama urging people to "get in the face" of those who disagree with them?

For those of us who really pay attention and follow this stuff, that bias is not very effective, and we choose who to vote for based on our own beliefs/opinions.  But it can be a determinative bias for a lot of swing voters, and that's frightening.   The only real tool many of us have to combat that is to vote the exact opposite of how they want us to.  I'm not saying people should cast their vote on that basis, and I'm long past trying to convince people how to vote.  But I admit that the desire to push back against that bias significantly affected my own decision to vote for Trump.

Very sad that this is where we find ourselves.

Leftists feel that Trump is "normalizing racism" and therefor the violence is justified.


Walking up to someone and beating them with a baseball bat is wrong, but if it's a KKK member then it's justified (in a liberal's eyes).


And liberals see Trump supporters as KKK members.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Leftists feel that Trump is "normalizing racism" and therefor the violence is justified.


Walking up to someone and beating them with a baseball bat is wrong, but if it's a KKK member then it's justified (in a liberal's eyes).


And liberals see Trump supporters as KKK members.

Oh, I absolutely agree with you.  And the really insidious part of this is how the left is now using the word "violence" to refer to mere words or opinions with which they disagree.  By changing the language, their "violence" becomes nothing more than "self-defense" against the "violence" by Trump supporters (and every other conservative voice/speaker who offends their sensibilities).  It's a license for goonism/mob-rule.

[jpsb]

I can't figure it out , if trump loses they know the end result and are fine with it . sounds like DU folks to me.

[musiclady]

Oh, I absolutely agree with you.  And the really insidious part of this is how the left is now using the word "violence" to refer to mere words or opinions with which they disagree.  By changing the language, their "violence" becomes nothing more than "self-defense" against the "violence" by Trump supporters (and every other conservative voice/speaker who offends their sensibilities).  It's a license for goonism/mob-rule.

The left has made a lot of progress over the years by changing the meaning of words.

It's a part of the reason they have succeeded in winning over the masses who don't think very deeply.

[Longmire]

I wouldn't waste the the time Longmire  Just go vote Nov. 9 . I can't figure it out , if trump loses they know the end result and are fine with it . sounds like DU folks to me.

@Blizzardnh

I don't care how folks vote, but the nonstop deluge of Trump hate these kooks unleash can be disconcerting.

Someone who spends their waking hours attacking Trump and his supporters and then sweetly claims they don't support Hillary is suffering from delusions.

[txradioguy]

@Blizzardnh

I don't care how folks vote, but the nonstop deluge of Trump hate these kooks unleash can be disconcerting.

Someone who spends their waking hours attacking Trump and his supporters and then sweetly claims they don't support Hillary is suffering from delusions.

Considering you and a couple of others here have been the only ones making implied threats and prattle on about retribution and keeping score in relation to those that don't support Trump...your faux outrage is a joke.

[musiclady]

Considering you and a couple of others here have been the only ones making implied threats and prattle on about retribution and keeping score in relation to those that don't support Trump...your faux outrage is a joke.

His faux outrage is hysterical, not just a joke.

He's been threatening us daily, and lying about us (the Hillary stupidity) and now pretends that threatening is a bad thing??

Hysterical hypocrisy.

[Blizzardnh]

@Blizzardnh

That's insanity.

NO one here is "fine" with the end result.  And NO one sounds like DU.

Everyone who opposes Trump does so because he is ideologically exactly like Clinton (a leftist, in case you weren't aware), and because he was the only one of the major candidates who could NOT defeat Hillary.

Yes, we are angry at the Trump primary voters because it is THEY who are damning us with a Clinton presidency, but the idea that we are pro-Hillary is an outright lie.

Don't do it again.

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[Oceander]

@Blizzardnh

I don't care how folks vote, but the nonstop deluge of Trump hate these kooks unleash can be disconcerting.

Someone who spends their waking hours attacking Trump and his supporters and then sweetly claims they don't support Hillary is suffering from delusions.

@Longmire
Then why have you repeatedly threatened retribution, including violent retribution, against us?  And that whether or not Trump wins?   

[TomSea]

Martin Luther King, JFK, Lincoln, all of these persons have been reviled.

If people want to cast their vote for more open borders, illegal alien crime, Islamic radicalism in America, more wars, that's their conscientious vote. Don't count me in that number.

[Sanguine]

Martin Luther King, JFK, Lincoln, all of these persons have been reviled.

If people want to cast their vote for more open borders, illegal alien crime, Islamic radicalism in America, more wars, that's their conscientious vote. Don't count me in that number.

@TomSea - reviled where and by whom? 

[Blizzardnh]

@Blizzardnh

That's insanity.

NO one here is "fine" with the end result.  And NO one sounds like DU.

Everyone who opposes Trump does so because he is ideologically exactly like Clinton (a leftist, in case you weren't aware), and because he was the only one of the major candidates who could NOT defeat Hillary.

Yes, we are angry at the Trump primary voters because it is THEY who are damning us with a Clinton presidency, but the idea that we are pro-Hillary is an outright lie.

Don't do it again.

Ok the mod didn't like my picture so we'll try this.
# 1 . Wasn't addressing you.
#2 . Never said anyone was pro Hillary so I guess you can't read.
#3 . "Don't do it again." What the heck is that.

[Longmire]

@Longmire
Then why have you repeatedly threatened retribution, including violent retribution, against us?  And that whether or not Trump wins?

I have no control over someone else's delusions...

Maybe a #Nevertrump Crisis hotline should be established.

[musiclady]

Ok the mod didn't like my picture so we'll try this.
# 1 . Wasn't addressing you.
#2 . Never said anyone was pro Hillary so I guess you can't read.
#3 . "Don't do it again." What the heck is that.

I've been reading very well since I was about 5, thank you.

And this is what you said, after telling troll Longmire not to waste his time with us...

if trump loses they know the end result and are fine with it . sounds like DU folks to me.

Interpretation:

You believe that we know that Hillary will win if Trump loses and that we are "fine with it."..... that is a lie.
You believe that people on this forum have views that are like DU....... that is also a lie.

So the "don't do it" is don't lie about the conservative members of this forum again, accusing us of being for Hillary and like DU.

Simple enough to understand now??

btw, I didn't see the image you posted that the Mods deleted, so I'm guessing you broke yet another TBR rule here.

No surprise there, if you're a Trump zealot.  You don't think the rules don't apply to you, do you?

@Blizzardnh

[Blizzardnh]

I've been reading very well since I was about 5, thank you.

And this is what you said, after telling troll Longmire not to waste his time with us...

Interpretation:

You believe that we know that Hillary will win if Trump loses and that we are "fine with it."..... that is a lie.
You believe that people on this forum have views that are like DU....... that is also a lie.

So the "don't do it" is don't lie about the conservative members of this forum again, accusing us of being for Hillary and like DU.

Simple enough to understand now??

btw, I didn't see the image you posted that the Mods deleted, so I'm guessing you broke yet another TBR rule here.

No surprise there, if you're a Trump zealot.  You don't think the rules don't apply to you, do you?

@Blizzardnh

Its a shame you needed that pic. just trying to help. And I know what I wrote  your Interpretation is your own.

[musiclady]

Its a shame you needed that pic. just trying to help. And I know what I wrote  your Interpretation is your own.

Yeah.......... I'm sure I 'needed' a picture that was too vulgar or cheap for the Mods to allow to stand.

And as for my "interpretation," perhaps if you learned to say the words you actually mean you wouldn't be so confusing (confused).

What you actually said was that we were fine with Hillary's election and that we were just like the folks at DU.

That's what you SAID.  If you didn't mean that, a brush up course on actual communication might be helpful.

 

[sinkspur]

Trump is keeping up the crazy even today:

[Blizzardnh]

Yeah.......... I'm sure I 'needed' a picture that was too vulgar or cheap for the Mods to allow to stand.

And as for my "interpretation," perhaps if you learned to say the words you actually mean you wouldn't be so confusing (confused).

What you actually said was that we were fine with Hillary's election and that we were just like the folks at DU.

That's what you SAID.  If you didn't mean that, a brush up course on actual communication might be helpful.

 

  Ok I will brush up on that as soon as you brush up on your common sense. Two people are running for president . yes two like it or not. You know Hillary Clinton is corrupt . If you can put out facts that Trump is the same show your cards . He's never been in politics you have no idea what he thinks or how he will govern other than what he has said in this run for office. You can guess but you don't know. So quit telling me what he is because you have no idea. Unless you were married to him then I'll listen. Plenty of democrats have changed there minds, one was our president in the 80's  Remember.