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The Failure Of American Institutions, Not Of Conservatism, Made Donald Trump Possible
Trumpism is not the same as populism or the New Right. . . It is what happens when no one trusts anyone any more.
By Ben Domenech
October25, 2016
The Federalist

The Washington Free Beacon’s Matthew Continetti argues at length in an essay published Friday that populism has displaced conservatism in the Republican Party, creating a crisis for the conservative intellectual class and representing a triumph for the “New Right”. He opens with a description of the debate over the Panama Canal between Ronald Reagan and William F. Buckley and their respective supporters, <a href="http://vlt.tc/2lot"which you can watch here[/url]:

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Within seconds you will be struck at the level of discourse between the future president and his interlocutors. The repartee is spirited, intelligent, respectful, detailed, and humorous. It is hard to imagine a similar intra-conservative dialogue being held today.

And yet, at some level, a replay of the controversy over the Panama Canal Treaty is exactly what the American right has been experiencing over the last 16 months. The conservative movement is divided over the question of Donald Trump, over his suitability for office, over the issues of nationalism, illegal immigration, criminality, corruption, and elitism he has raised in his campaign. The terms of and parties to this dispute are remarkably similar to those in the debate at Duke University almost 40 years ago. In some cases they are the very same people. The antagonism between the populism of Buchanan and the conservatism of National Review is remarkably persistent.

What makes that episode of Firing Line significant in retrospect is how it threw into high relief the differences between Buckley and the so-called New Right. Since founding National Review in 1955, Buckley and his colleagues had been the spokesmen of an intellectual and philosophical critique of democratic mass society as well as the domestic and foreign policies of American liberalism. Beginning with the Republican nomination of Barry Goldwater (whom Buckley supported) in 1964, however, and accelerating in the tumultuous 1970s, the National Review crowd found itself challenged by a group of activists, journalists, and politicians whose criticism of the elite was populist, vehement, bipartisan, and anti-corporate. The question of how these anti-Establishment newcomers from the south and West fit into the conservative movement and the Republican Party, the question of where to strike the balance between populism and conservatism, has bedeviled conservative intellectuals and pro-business GOP officials ever since.

This is an interesting description of that debate (which, by way of minor correction, took place not at Duke University but at the University of South Carolina in the Longstreet Theatre). I was particularly jarred by the use of “respectful” as representing Buckley’s demeanor. Even if you agree with Buckley’s arguments, he comes across to me as condescending, arrogant, and dismissive of the other side in a way that undermines his own points. This debate reveals the Achilles’ heel of Buckley’s perception of the world. And for those of us who’ve debated within the context of 2016, this attitude toward Reagan’s populist argument – “We built it, we paid for it, it’s ours, and we are going to keep it” – is recognizable.

The whole of Continetti’s essay is worth reading, but he closes with this:

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The triumph of populism has left conservatism marooned, confused, uncertain, depressed, anxious, searching for a tradition, for a program, for viability. We might have to return to the beginning to understand where we have ended up. We might have to reject adversarianism, to accept the welfare state as an objective fact, to rehabilitate Burnham’s vision of a conservative-tinged Establishment capable of permeating the managerial society and gradually directing it in a prudential, reflective, virtuous manner respectful of both freedom and tradition. This is the challenge of the moment. This is the crisis of the conservative intellectual. What makes that crisis acute is the knowledge that he and his predecessors may have helped to bring it on themselves.

Already others are hailing Continetti’s piece – Michael Gerson praises it at length here.  It certainly has many good and accurate points. But it also seems to contain an overall mistake – that is, a need to place Trumpism within an evolutionary continuum on the right. It is not a progression nearly as much as it is a regression, disjointed as you ought to expect from a movement elevated by prior non-voters and alienated ex-Democrats, who used to cling to their Bible and their guns and now find those to be little solace.

Continetti begins his historical survey in the 1960s, but he doesn’t go back far enough. The conservative intellectual life of Trumpism is more accurately captured by Lionel Trilling from 1950:

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In the United States at this time Liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition. For it is the plain fact that nowadays there are no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation. This does not mean, of course, that there is no impulse to conservatism or to reaction. Such impulses are certainly very strong, perhaps even stronger than most of us know. But the conservative impulse and the reactionary impulse do not, with some isolated and some ecclesiastical exceptions, express themselves in ideas but only in action or in irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas.

This strikes me as a more accurate description of Trumpism, a description of the right pre-Buckley and pre-Reagan. Its particular form is not a direct consequence of the failure of conservative intellectuals, nor even of the conservative movement. Those failures exist and are manifest, of course, but in seeking root causes we shouldn’t fall into that trap, because this is about something much bigger.

From Reagan through George W. Bush, conservatives largely agreed on the traditional three-legged stool of the fusionist GOP: national defense, limited government, family values. All of that blew up in the aftermath of the Bush years. Conservative intellectuals perceive what’s happening now as a crisis because the political universe has changed so dramatically thanks to Iraq, the Wall Street meltdown, and the lackluster growth that’s followed. But a good part of that crisis mentality could be due to the fact that they still haven’t come to grips with how much the Bush presidency damaged perceptions of conservatism, even among Republicans, and made the old frame of fusionism impossible.

Many Americans today are very angry about 1) lost jobs, lost wars, lost money, broken families, broken neighborhoods, broken government, thought and speech policing, and 2) what they view as an aristocratic class who rigs the system and doesn’t care about any of these issues, and thinks people who do care are dumb. Trump won because he pretended to respect the people who care about 1), and framed those who opposed him as being part of 2). His aggressive tone made up for years of supporting all sorts of policies the old fusionist frame never would have allowed. And he’s still doing that even now.

Ask yourself why so many of Trump’s voters, even the middle class ones, are willing to listen when he says even something as big as a presidential election can be rigged against them. All this is happening because American society is in collapse, and no one trusts institutions or one another. It is due to the failure of government institutions, largely stood up by the progressive left, to live up to their promises of offering real economic security and education and the promise of a better life. It is due to the failure of corporate institutions, who have warped America’s capitalist system to benefit themselves at the expense of others. It is due to the failure of cultural institutions, like the church and community organizations, to help the people make sense of an anxious age.

The point is that while conservative intellectuals have their problems, this is much bigger than anything having to do with conservative intellectuals. The aims of conservatives, whether they are the “populist” or “intellectual” sort (an unsatisfying frame, given that Reagan was both), depends on a certain level of societal flourishing. As Yuval Levin writes in The Fractured Republic:

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Our highly individualist, liberationist idea of liberty is possible only because we presuppose the existence of a human being and citizen capable of handling a remarkably high degree of freedom and responsibility. We do not often enough reflect on how extraordinary it is that our society contains such people.

There is a reason progressives spent half a century slowly eroding society’s pillars to the point where the people produced by our families, communities and schools no longer desire this, a point at which a reversion to this form of reactionary nationalism is possible. Trumpism is not the same as populism or the New Right, and it speaks to something much worse than an intellectual crisis. It is what happens when no one trusts anyone any more.

Ben Domenech is the publisher of The Federalist

http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/25/failure-of-american-institutionsd-not-conservatism-made-trump-possible/
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Trump won the nomination because you had a huge field of candidates who couldn't distinguish themselves from each other and weren't ready for Prime Time.

I was a Walker guy, and with a smaller field of candidates, he could have hung in there.   Priebus let things get out of control, and Trump was able to take advantage of the chaos.

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Trump won the nomination because you had a huge field of candidates who couldn't distinguish themselves from each other and weren't ready for Prime Time.

That's only part of the problem that gave us Trump.  The party deliberately constructed the primary and caucus process to prevent the nomination from being decided at the convention by accepting delegates from winner-take-all primaries in which all delegates are awarded on the basis of a plurality and open primaries.  Both the party and the conservative movement would be better served if the GOP refused to accept winner-take-all or open primary results and ran its own caucuses in states where the legislature requires either wta or open primaries as a condition for the state election apparatus running the primary.  Yes, this would lead to contested conventions with horse-trading to pick a nominee, but I regard that as a feature, rather than a bug.  Either that, or do what the parties do in every other democratic nation on earth and have the party hierarchy (say the GOP congressional delegations, GOP governors, and 50 state party chairs) select a handful of acceptable candidates by a process that would ensure some breadth of representation, and only present those to the primary voters.
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Trumpism is not the same as populism or the New Right. . . It is what happens when no one trusts anyone any more.
You cannot sum up Trumpism any more succinctly than that. When you have a fan base that has decided it is entitled to its own facts and dismisses anything counter to it as some liberal conspiracy out of hand, you end up with what has happened with the Trump movement.
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Trump won the nomination because you had a huge field of candidates who couldn't distinguish themselves from each other and weren't ready for Prime Time.

I was a Walker guy, and with a smaller field of candidates, he could have hung in there.   Priebus let things get out of control, and Trump was able to take advantage of the chaos.

I have no idea what one needs to do to distinguish himself if Ted Cruz didn't.
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Trump won the nomination because you had a huge field of candidates who couldn't distinguish themselves from each other and weren't ready for Prime Time.

I was a Walker guy, and with a smaller field of candidates, he could have hung in there.   Priebus let things get out of control, and Trump was able to take advantage of the chaos.

You had one guy that constantly made stuff up called people stupid names including calling them liars. The civil class didn't know how to respond. The media loves candidates that back stab other Republicans. No other candidate could get much in edgewise in the larger media. It was Trump this and Trump that 24/7...

And then you also had, he was going to be "build a wall" and that it was all "his idea" and that no other candidate proposed such a thing. Both points were false. But the lemmings were latched on at that point and nothing else mattered - including actually defeating Hillary November.

And here we are...

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You had one guy that constantly made stuff up called people stupid names including calling them liars. The civil class didn't know how to respond. The media loves candidates that back stab other Republicans. No other candidate could get much in edgewise in the larger media. It was Trump this and Trump that 24/7...

And then you also had, he was going to be "build a wall" and that it was all "his idea" and that no other candidate proposed such a thing. Both points were false. But the lemmings were latched on at that point and nothing else mattered - including actually defeating Hillary November.

And here we are...

Great post. I think thoughts like that all the time but when I try to write them down it leaves me (dump as a post).  For me it ended with the first Bush. The trickster.
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You cannot sum up Trumpism any more succinctly than that. When you have a fan base that has decided it is entitled to its own facts and dismisses anything counter to it as some liberal conspiracy out of hand, you end up with what has happened with the Trump movement.

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You had one guy that constantly made stuff up called people stupid names including calling them liars. The civil class didn't know how to respond. The media loves candidates that back stab other Republicans. No other candidate could get much in edgewise in the larger media. It was Trump this and Trump that 24/7...

And then you also had, he was going to be "build a wall" and that it was all "his idea" and that no other candidate proposed such a thing. Both points were false. But the lemmings were latched on at that point and nothing else mattered - including actually defeating Hillary November.

And here we are...
Well said. I think Cruz was well distinguished from the rest of the field, as was Walker, but neither got a word in edgewise that wasn't distorted or trying to rebut the latest lies. The MSM didn't want Cruz, and Trump was good for their ratings with all the hoopla. Hoopla sells soap.
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Trump won the nomination because you had a huge field of candidates who couldn't distinguish themselves from each other and weren't ready for Prime Time.

The MSM only wanted to report on Trump.

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Well said. I think Cruz was well distinguished from the rest of the field, as was Walker, but neither got a word in edgewise that wasn't distorted or trying to rebut the latest lies. The MSM didn't want Cruz, and Trump was good for their ratings with all the hoopla. Hoopla sells soap.

The MSM chose our nominee, it was "Maverick" John McCain all over again

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Title's wrong.

The Failure Of Americans, Not Of Conservatism, Made Donald Trump Possible
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Well said. I think Cruz was well distinguished from the rest of the field, as was Walker, but neither got a word in edgewise that wasn't distorted or trying to rebut the latest lies. The MSM didn't want Cruz, and Trump was good for their ratings with all the hoopla. Hoopla sells soap.

Yes, this is the truth.
Cruz and Walker would have been "boring", no big ratings there.
The media knew Trump would say outrageous things, better for ratings.
Should Trump actually become the nominee Which happened), they had years of his stuff to talk about.

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The MSM chose our nominee, it was "Maverick" John McCain all over again

Just as the ALWAYS do because WE allow them to!!  **nononono*
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Title's wrong.

The Failure Of Americans, Not Of Conservatism, Made Donald Trump Possible

AMEN!!!

“No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders. “

Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

“Nothing is more certain than that a general profligacy and corruption of manners make a people ripe for destruction. A good form of government may hold the rotten materials together for some time, but beyond a certain pitch, even the best constitution will be ineffectual, and slavery must ensue.”

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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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You cannot sum up Trumpism any more succinctly than that. When you have a fan base that has decided it is entitled to its own facts and dismisses anything counter to it as some liberal conspiracy out of hand, you end up with what has happened with the Trump movement.

Read down the thread. Everyone wants to blame someone else and play the victim.

That's the problem with not only the right wing of politics, but the people in general.

We've become a nation of whiny, helpless, hapless victims.

We rarely accept responsibility for anything that happens not only in our nation, but in our lives. We have lost our national backbone, and how can you demand a backbone of a government when the governed lack one themselves?

The media can only influence those so pathetically pathetic that they allow themselves to be influenced by the media. It's not that American institutions have failed that's the problem here, it is that we, as a people, have grown weak, fat, and lazy and our decomposition as individuals an a people has allowed for a media with greater influence.

That's not their failure.

It's ours.
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I was a Walker guy, and with a smaller field of candidates, he could have hung in there.   Priebus let things get out of control, and Trump was able to take advantage of the chaos.

Walker dropped out in September 2015. Months and months before the primaries and before the campaign really even began. I could have accepted Walker - but he was a non-starter.

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Read down the thread. Everyone wants to blame someone else and play the victim.

That's the problem with not only the right wing of politics, but the people in general.

We've become a nation of whiny, helpless, hapless victims.

We rarely accept responsibility for anything that happens not only in our nation, but in our lives. We have lost our national backbone, and how can you demand a backbone of a government when the governed lack one themselves?

The media can only influence those so pathetically pathetic that they allow themselves to be influenced by the media. It's not that American institutions have failed that's the problem here, it is that we, as a people, have grown weak, fat, and lazy and our decomposition as individuals an a people has allowed for a media with greater influence.

That's not their failure.

It's ours.
I'd agree except for one thing. The North Dakota GOP had no Presidential Primary nor a Caucus this time. You read that right. I didn't get to vote on who the candidate would be.

For me, that was it. I am done with the GOP. What we did get there for a candidate is just the icing on the cake, as far as that goes (or the white stuff on top of the chicken sh*t.)
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That's only part of the problem that gave us Trump.  The party deliberately constructed the primary and caucus process to prevent the nomination from being decided at the convention by accepting delegates from winner-take-all primaries in which all delegates are awarded on the basis of a plurality and open primaries.

In addition, and I think much more destructively, the various state parties, with the approval of the national party, began moving their primaries earlier and clustering them together in multi-state "super-primaries", supposedly to increase a state's influence on the selection of the nominee.

This combination favors the candidates who are best able to keep their names in the media (i.e., Trump), and actively discourages protracted debate about substantive issues.  It is virtually impossible for a candidate who does poorly in early March, to mount any sort of comeback in following months. 

Further, the concentration of primaries into single-day, do-or-die events allows the media to breathlessly cover the primaries as sporting events, which rewards those who can make the most attention-grabbing statements (Trump again), rather than focusing on what they're actually saying, and certainly not coverage of substantive issues.

It's a system that simply does not allow the best candidates for president to gradually rise to the top on their own merits; but, rather, rewards candidates based on their ability to manipulate media coverage.

A slow, grinding primary campaign is dull; and it is tedious; and it is expensive.  And it's hard for an attention-deficient media to cover, and for an attention-deficient populace to follow.  The only thing it has going for it, is that it allows candidates time to define themselves and their stance on various issues, so that over time the better candidates rise above the crowd.
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Walker dropped out in September 2015. Months and months before the primaries and before the campaign really even began. I could have accepted Walker - but he was a non-starter.

I think it was a smart move on his part.  He obviously saw the writing on the wall concerning Trump, and chose not to step, along with his family, into the grinder with the rest of the sausage meat. 

Walker was never going to generate a lot of excitement: all he had going for him was his ability, record, and strength of character, which were obviously of no interest whatever to this year's primary voters.

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I think it was a smart move on his part.  He obviously saw the writing on the wall concerning Trump, and chose not to step, along with his family, into the grinder with the rest of the sausage meat. 

Walker was never going to generate a lot of excitement: all he had going for him was his ability, record, and strength of character, which were obviously of no interest whatever to this year's primary voters.

Exactly.
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It is hard to believe that even now ya'll still don't get it.

Immigration or rather lack of even attempting to control illegal immigration is what made Donald Trump possible. That you can look at what is happening in Sweden, Germany, France and England a still not "get it" is mind boggling.

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Walker dropped out in September 2015. Months and months before the primaries and before the campaign really even began. I could have accepted Walker - but he was a non-starter.

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Way too many candidates were running.  They need to have no more than three.  Each candidate should go up to a committee and state their case, and from that three are selected to run. 

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It is hard to believe that even now ya'll still don't get it.

Immigration or rather lack of even attempting to control illegal immigration is what made Donald Trump possible. That you can look at what is happening in Sweden, Germany, France and England a still not "get it" is mind boggling.

Anger and frustration is what made Trump possible.  Anger and frustration are rarely the basis for sound decision-making.

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Anger and frustration is what made Trump possible.  Anger and frustration are rarely the basis for sound decision-making.

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