Author Topic: Donald Trump super PAC solicited money from fake Chinese donor, offered to “whisper” into “Trump’s ear” (Read 2309 times)

ABX · « **on:** October 25, 2016, 12:57:36 pm »

Trump/Clinton.. two sides of the same coin..

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A Super PAC supporting Donald Trump, the presidential candidate who has suggested making it illegal for foreign donors to contribute money to American election campaigns, is not shy about taking money from foreign donors. Namely, Chinese donors.

The Telegraph has revealed that a Super PAC promised to exchange influence in return for illegal campaign contributions from a donor it thought was Chinese....

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/25/donald-trump-super-pac-solicited-money-from-fake-chinese-donor-offered-to-whisper-into-trumps-ear/

driftdiver · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:01:38 pm »

Quote from: AbaraXas on October 25, 2016, 12:57:36 pm

Trump/Clinton.. two sides of the same coin..

and?

Hillary takes money from a host of foreign sources through her foundation.

Suppressed · « **Reply #2 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:05:17 pm »

Quote from: driftdiver on October 25, 2016, 01:01:38 pm

and?

Hillary takes money from a host of foreign sources through her foundation.

Ergo, it is not right to vote for either of them.

driftdiver · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:06:52 pm »

Quote from: Suppressed on October 25, 2016, 01:05:17 pm

Ergo, it is not right to vote for either of them.

sure, its a crap sandwhich. Is there anything else on the menu or will one of these two be served to us?

ABX · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:08:42 pm »

Quote from: driftdiver on October 25, 2016, 01:01:38 pm

and?

Hillary takes money from a host of foreign sources through her foundation.

Exactly, two sides of the same coin. Hillary and her chosen pied piper.

ABX · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:10:51 pm »

Quote from: driftdiver on October 25, 2016, 01:06:52 pm

sure, its a crap sandwhich. Is there anything else on the menu or will one of these two be served to us?

This sample ballot shows four items on the menu, not two. I've seen some that show 23 choices.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:20:00 pm »

Top of the ticket in North Dakota. I'd opt for some entree other than the crap sandwich, myself.

TRUMP (Republican Party)
CLINTON (Democratic-NPL Party)
JOHNSON (Libertarian Party)
STEIN (Green Party)
CASTLE (Constitution Party)
DE LA FUENTE (American Delta Party)

ABX · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:22:07 pm »

Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 25, 2016, 01:20:00 pm

Top of the ticket in North Dakota. I'd opt for some entree other than the crap sandwich, myself.

TRUMP (Republican Party)
CLINTON (Democratic-NPL Party)
JOHNSON (Libertarian Party)
STEIN (Green Party)
CASTLE (Constitution Party)
DE LA FUENTE (American Delta Party)

I'm heading out to vote today at lunch and I can guarantee it won't be the Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #8 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:26:39 pm »

Quote from: AbaraXas on October 25, 2016, 01:22:07 pm

I'm heading out to vote today at lunch and I can guarantee it won't be the Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich.

When the time comes, I'm voting for Castle.

XenaLee · « **Reply #9 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:27:28 pm »

Quote from: AbaraXas on October 25, 2016, 12:57:36 pm

Trump/Clinton.. two sides of the same coin..

Well....by the same "reasoning" as the pro-Trump Cruz bashers went by....

Trump is 100% responsible for anything and everything that any pro-Trump super PAC does or says.

So...guilty!

TomSea · « **Reply #10 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:34:42 pm »

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Trump/Clinton.. two sides of the same coin..

Thanks for the story from Salon.

We'll see a trial before we declare what this case is about, the hate-pushers may not like that, but one is entitled to their day in court in the US.

ABX · « **Reply #11 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:38:35 pm »

Quote from: TomSea on October 25, 2016, 01:34:42 pm

Thanks for the story from Salon.

We'll see a trial before we declare what this case is about, the hate-pushers may not like that, but one is entitled to their day in court in the US.

As I mentioned both Trump and Clinton in that, it is interesting that your response is also giving Clinton a pass.

XenaLee · « **Reply #12 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:39:43 pm »

Quote from: TomSea on October 25, 2016, 01:34:42 pm

Thanks for the story from Salon.

We'll see a trial before we declare what this case is about, the hate-pushers may not like that, but one is entitled to their day in court in the US.

Funny....but.....the Cruz bashers didn't require any such "trial" before they blamed Cruz for that Liz Mair Melania nude photo bit. Odd double standards the Trump camp has there. Kinda exactly like every liberal/leftie I've ever seen.

chae · « **Reply #13 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:41:10 pm »

@TomSea

So let me get this straight, Ted Cruz was accused of releasing Melania's porn pictures, even though the head of the PAC that released the pics was a big Rubio supporter, and all you Trump supporters wanted to tar and feather Cruz.
Now this happens and you reserve an opinion until it's been decided in a court of law?
Thank you for bolstering my decision to vote for anyone but Clinton or Trump.

chae · « **Reply #14 on:** October 25, 2016, 01:41:42 pm »

@XenaLee

Ditto :)

driftdiver · « **Reply #15 on:** October 25, 2016, 03:51:39 pm »

Quote from: AbaraXas on October 25, 2016, 01:10:51 pm

This sample ballot shows four items on the menu, not two. I've seen some that show 23 choices.

Which of those 23 have a snowballs chance of winning? So a vote for anyone but one of the two crapballs is a wasted vote. it doesn't send a message, it doesn't teach them a lesson. Did they learn from the landslide on the Congressional elections? Or did they double down.

Winning is all that matters. That is the game.

ABX · « **Reply #16 on:** October 25, 2016, 03:59:00 pm »

Quote from: driftdiver on October 25, 2016, 03:51:39 pm

Which of those 23 have a snowballs chance of winning? So a vote for anyone but one of the two crapballs is a wasted vote. it doesn't send a message, it doesn't teach them a lesson. Did they learn from the landslide on the Congressional elections? Or did they double down.

Winning is all that matters. That is the game.

This isn't a game.

Idaho_Cowboy · « **Reply #17 on:** October 25, 2016, 04:03:03 pm »

Quote from: TomSea on October 25, 2016, 01:34:42 pm

Thanks for the story from Salon.

We'll see a trial before we declare what this case is about, the hate-pushers may not like that, but one is entitled to their day in court in the US.

Then I guess Hillary is just as pure as the wind driven snow in your eyes?

HAPPY2BME · « **Reply #18 on:** October 25, 2016, 04:12:01 pm »

Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on October 25, 2016, 04:03:03 pm

Then I guess Hillary is just as pure as the wind driven snow in your eyes?

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Redefines the word 'conservative' doesn't it?

ABX · « **Reply #19 on:** October 25, 2016, 04:15:03 pm »

Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on October 25, 2016, 04:03:03 pm

Then I guess Hillary is just as pure as the wind driven snow in your eyes?

It is funny, they are now defending Trump from the exact same accusations that Hillary has. In other words, how they judge actions isn't based on the criminality of the actions but how much they like the person committing the crime.

Wait until they find out one of these articles was actually about Hillary, I just swapped the name to Trump, and got them to defend Hillary's actions just because of that.

it shows inconsistent application of values. one of the defining characteristics of a personality cult.

ABX · « **Reply #20 on:** October 25, 2016, 04:16:59 pm »

Quote from: HAPPY2BME on October 25, 2016, 04:12:01 pm

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Redefines the word 'conservative' doesn't it?

It sure does, especially when some people here, I won't mention names ;) were just caught defending Hillary by simply swapping out the names of the articles.

They've redefined Conservatism to be about a character versus the principle.

driftdiver · « **Reply #21 on:** October 25, 2016, 04:27:48 pm »

Quote from: AbaraXas on October 25, 2016, 04:15:03 pm

It is funny, they are now defending Trump from the exact same accusations that Hillary has. In other words, how they judge actions isn't based on the criminality of the actions but how much they like the person committing the crime.

Wait until they find out one of these articles was actually about Hillary, I just swapped the name to Trump, and got them to defend Hillary's actions just because of that.

it shows inconsistent application of values. one of the defining characteristics of a personality cult.

@AbaraXas

Who is "they"? One of two people will be President after the election. I wish we had another choice who could win, but we dont.

ABX · « **Reply #22 on:** October 25, 2016, 04:33:45 pm »

Quote from: driftdiver on October 25, 2016, 04:27:48 pm

@AbaraXas

Who is "they"? One of two people will be President after the election. I wish we had another choice who could win, but we dont.

The chance is slim, but three times in our history (which amounts to 8% probability) the House of Representatives had to choose the President because no candidate reached the minimum number of electoral votes. This is a very real possibility in our election because it is so close and States like Utah show the third party candidate tied for the lead. Remember that in 2000, Bush won by just 2 EVs.

This is a part of our Republic that the founders wrote into the Constitution. Call it a big red Constitutional reset button.

It is so voting your values versus playing the political game only, is never a wasted vote.

The only waste is when you set aside your values for the game....

...at that, in the big picture of things, when people tell you to set aside your values for a decision, that's the time you should hold on to your values even tighter.

A decision that is correct will confirm your values, not ask you to set them aside.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #23 on:** October 25, 2016, 04:46:17 pm »

Quote from: XenaLee on October 25, 2016, 01:39:43 pm

Funny....but.....the Cruz bashers didn't require any such "trial" before they blamed Cruz for that Liz Mair Melania nude photo bit. Odd double standards the Trump camp has there. Kinda exactly like every liberal/leftie I've ever seen.

Exactly, not to mention Ted's Dad, convicted of conspiracy to assassinate the President by the National Enquirer...

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #24 on:** October 25, 2016, 04:48:21 pm »

Quote from: driftdiver on October 25, 2016, 04:27:48 pm

@AbaraXas

Who is "they"? One of two people will be President after the election. I wish we had another choice who could win, but we dont.

Let me lay the $64,000.00 question on you.

If you vote for someone who is going to do what you don't want, who stands for nothing you stand for, who will be a disaster, and they win, do you "win"?

Think about it.