As Trump stares a loss in the face, even his favorite lies are failing him

[HonestJohn]

By Greg Sargent
October 24 at 9:24 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/10/24/as-trump-stares-a-loss-in-the-face-even-his-favorite-lies-are-failing-him/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_1_na&utm_term=.f7c5f99ab9f4

Donald Trump has begun to contemplate the unthinkable: he might lose. At a rally in Florida yesterday, Trump lapsed into an uncharacteristic moment of self-doubt, diverging from his script to wonder aloud whether running for president was a good idea: “I’ll let you know on the evening of November 8th.” And two days earlier, Trump actually uttered the words, “if I lose…” before trailing off.

Nonetheless, Trump continues to repeat his favorite lies with supreme confidence in their effectiveness. In his last few appearances, Trump again claimed that rampant voter fraud ensures a rigged election, that the media is in on the conspiracy to rig the outcome, that Hillary Clinton is physically weaker and sicker than we all think she is, and that Clinton has been allowed to skate on lawbreaking that should have disqualified her from running at all.

New polling from ABC News suggests these lies are failing him.

The key finding in the new ABC News tracking poll, which finds Clinton leading among likely voters nationally by 50-38, is that affirmative support for Clinton among her supporters, as opposed to a motivator only rooted in dislike for the other side, is growing:



As ABC’s polling memo notes, the percentage of Clinton supporters who say their vote will be for her is at a new high, while the percentage of Trump supporters who say the same about him has remained flat. Crucially, this “affirmative support can be a stronger motivator to vote.” The ABC poll finds something similar on voters’ enthusiasm about their choice:

Levels of enthusiasm for the candidates, while similar overall, also have followed different trajectories. Fifty-two percent of Clinton’s supporters now describe themselves as very enthusiastic about their choice, the most to date and up sharply from 36 percent in early September. Among Trump supporters, 49 percent are strongly enthusiastic; he peaked on this measure in late September.

The result of these trends is that Trump’s 12-point advantage in strong enthusiasm just after Labor Day is now a (non-significant) 3-point deficit to Clinton. In ABC News/Washington Post polling since 2000, the candidate with more strongly enthusiastic support has won.

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[corbe]

   I always liked the one about (paraphrasing),

   If you don't Elect Me this was all a Big Waste of Time.

    Looking forward to this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Ro7LLEaQQ

[ConstitutionRose]

The upward enthusiasm trend for Hillary is really bad for Trump.  Most of this election season that trend has been in Trump’s favor.  None if my D acquaintences had any enthusiasm for her at all. People know Hillary is a bad choice.  It looks like they are deciding she is the better bad choice.

[bolobaby]

Just remember: the Trumpettes own this debacle.

[TomSea]

Clinton Media, Washington Post,

Who cares what the Trump haters think, they betray our country.

[GtHawk]

Clinton Media, Washington Post,

Who cares what the Trump haters think, they betray our country.

How pious, so now if we don't bow down to the Lord Orange Julius we are not just voting for Hillary, we are traitors too! Just remember, it's Trump himself that is insuring Hillary's election, not those of us that refuse to lower our standards to his level.

[HonestJohn]

Clinton Media, Washington Post,

Who cares what the Trump haters think, they betray our country.

Ah, the old cult control method of controlling what information the member is allowed to consume.  How old Jim Jones doing?  How his Kool-Aid?

[Frank Cannon]

This is a load of BS because no one can point to one thing Hitlary has done the last couple month to solidify her supporters. Her rallies are still poorly attended. Finding her yard signs is like trying to find Waldo. Her debates were lackluster at best.

Let's also remember that this whole article is based on 100% bullshit. This is the poll that showed Hitlary +12 because they oversampled Rats by 9%. Anyone really believe that?

[kjam22]

This is a load of BS because no one can point to one thing Hitlary has done the last couple month to solidify her supporters. Her rallies are still poorly attended. Finding her yard signs is like trying to find Waldo. Her debates were lackluster at best.

Let's also remember that this whole article is based on 100% bullshit. This is the poll that showed Hitlary +12 because they oversampled Rats by 9%. Anyone really believe that?

Hitlery didn't have to do anything.   All she had to do was not be Donald Trump.   He killed his own campaign.

[catfish1957]

Clinton Media, Washington Post,

Who cares what the Trump haters think, they betray our country.

Nope you and the 13,300,471 other GOP primary voters who voted for this POS are absolutely and directly responsible for this disaster.

[geronl]

Let's also remember that this whole article is based on 100% bullshit. This is the poll that showed Hitlary +12 because they oversampled Rats by 9%. Anyone really believe that?

That Dems +9% is based on how many Republicans are saying they won't be voting this time. Surveys show that registered Republicans who are likely to vote has dropped 7% in the past month. Trump has successfully suppressed GOP turnout.

[Silver Pines]

Clinton Media, Washington Post,

Who cares what the Trump haters think, they betray our country.

@TomSea

So you have to love Trump or you're not a patriot.

Oh, but it's not a cult...not at all.

[sinkspur]

[sinkspur]

This is a load of BS because no one can point to one thing Hitlary has done the last couple month to solidify her supporters. Her rallies are still poorly attended. Finding her yard signs is like trying to find Waldo. Her debates were lackluster at best.

Let's also remember that this whole article is based on 100% bullshit. This is the poll that showed Hitlary +12 because they oversampled Rats by 9%. Anyone really believe that?

The "oversample" is based on the +7 for Democrats from 2012 in addition to the much higher registration numbers for the Ds this year.  It may be off, but there is at least a plausible basis for it. 

One thing's for sure:  more Democrats than Republicans are early voting, and that is a bad sign for Trump.    The number of early votes in Dallas County yesterday was DOUBLE what it was on the first day of early voting in 2012.

[Frank Cannon]

That Dems +9% is based on how many Republicans are saying they won't be voting this time. Surveys show that registered Republicans who are likely to vote has dropped 7% in the past month. Trump has successfully suppressed GOP turnout.

I'll believe it when I see it, but so far all I have to go on is that ABC loves to lie and most polls end up blowing it when the rubber meets the road.