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US GOVERNMENT DECLARING ALL OUT WAR ON TINY HOUSE LIVING
« on: October 23, 2016, 05:30:20 pm »

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Freedom in the United States today is a moving target, and when the government catches wind of an innovation that makes life easier and more affordable for ordinary people, it always steps in to take control. Take, for example, the growing effort to outlaw offgrid living in the U.S., as well as moves by local governments around the country to criminalize private rainwater collection.
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Now, the federal government is making a major move against the tiny house movement, seeking to give the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) authority to require tiny houses to conform to the standards of recreational vehicles (RV’s), of which one of the rules is that the vehicles may not be used or marketed for permanent living. HUD is seeking to regulate tiny house living out of existence or to turn it into a regulated industry by requiring that tiny homes be manufactured in factories, conforming to codified standards.
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The tiny house movement is one of the latest innovations in personal freedom from an overly consumeristic and a debt-driven society. Many people construct tiny houses themselves, often but not always on wheels, for a fraction of the cost of typical housing. In a tiny home, one has everything needed  to live a comfortable life, but in a tiny space often less than a couple of hundred square feet. They park them in hospitable places and enjoy life without a mortgage and everything else you need to fill and maintain a big American house.
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HOW DUPLICITOUS AND OUTRAGEOUS . . . the tyrannical jerks.

In an era when the PC blather is CONSUME LESS, DOWNSIZE, TREAD LIGHTLY ON THE ENVIRONMENT . . . they are increasingly throwing a fit at TINY HOUSES???????

Obviously--they don't want serfs and slaves to live OFF GRID . . . they have long planned to house the dumbed down serfs and slaves in Soviet style concrete apartment complexes/rabbit warrens of despair. Tiny houses are not part of their 5 year Marxist plans.

Sheesh.

I used to think that tiny houses were more than a little small, for me. But I've done well enough in a single wide for more than a decade. And there's a lot to be said for not collecting stuff and keeping a smaller space cleaner.
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Re: US GOVERNMENT DECLARING ALL OUT WAR ON TINY HOUSE LIVING
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2016, 05:36:44 pm »
Odd approach. These things are basically rebranded mobile homes so they should call under those guidelines, not RV guidelines.

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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2016, 05:37:25 pm »
It's not unreasonable for these houses to be subjected to the same rules that apply to trailers, RVs, and mobile homes.  I've seen some of those things being built, and as trailers some are almost certainly substandard.

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Re: US GOVERNMENT DECLARING ALL OUT WAR ON TINY HOUSE LIVING
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2016, 06:14:11 pm »
Odd approach. These things are basically rebranded mobile homes so they should call under those guidelines, not RV guidelines.

Certainly things on the road need to be road worthy.
Certainly there needs to be a minimum of safety design features to avoid unnecessary fire risk, gas risk etc.

However, bureaucracies and governments may begin reasonably but quickly morph into very tyrannical umpteen thousand page law sorts of junk . . . I don't support that carp in the least.

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Re: US GOVERNMENT DECLARING ALL OUT WAR ON TINY HOUSE LIVING
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2016, 06:15:39 pm »
Odd approach. These things are basically rebranded mobile homes so they should call under those guidelines, not RV guidelines.

I think that's tolerable . . . providing it doesn't force tiny homes into an Airstream design format. I think creativity needs to be relatively free as long as its safe, imho.
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Re: US GOVERNMENT DECLARING ALL OUT WAR ON TINY HOUSE LIVING
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2016, 07:15:12 pm »
I thought they wanted us living in tiny houses because it was "eco"?

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2016, 08:48:50 pm »
I thought they wanted us living in tiny houses because it was "eco"?

INDEED . . . though they want to do away with single family dwellings and a yard . . . no growing one's own food etc. etc. etc.
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Re: US GOVERNMENT DECLARING ALL OUT WAR ON TINY HOUSE LIVING
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2016, 08:50:53 pm »
I thought they wanted us living in tiny houses because it was "eco"?

They want us forced out of the suburbs and back into urban zones living atop one another in tiny apartments because its MORE eco.

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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2016, 08:56:51 pm »
They want us forced out of the suburbs and back into urban zones living atop one another in tiny apartments because its MORE eco.
It's not more eco, but it does make it easier to control people.

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Re: US GOVERNMENT DECLARING ALL OUT WAR ON TINY HOUSE LIVING
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2016, 12:19:20 am »
Odd approach. These things are basically rebranded mobile homes so they should call under those guidelines, not RV guidelines.
Not always. The phrase "tiny house" is vague. The ones on wheels are indeed basically mobile homes, although I've seen a number of non-house-style homemade RV's as well. The teardrop camper is one particular example.

But there are also the cabin-style tiny houses; they can be set in a basic foundation.

It does not surprise me to see the government, be it federal or state, trying to ruin something innovative.
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Re: US GOVERNMENT DECLARING ALL OUT WAR ON TINY HOUSE LIVING
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2016, 12:31:47 am »
Not always. The phrase "tiny house" is vague. The ones on wheels are indeed basically mobile homes, although I've seen a number of non-house-style homemade RV's as well. The teardrop camper is one particular example.

But there are also the cabin-style tiny houses; they can be set in a basic foundation.

It does not surprise me to see the government, be it federal or state, trying to ruin something innovative.

INDEED. Well put.

The oligarchy has to have absolutely everyone and everything micro-managed under their jackboots and thumbs.
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Re: US GOVERNMENT DECLARING ALL OUT WAR ON TINY HOUSE LIVING
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2016, 12:35:30 am »
The Libs should focus on these tiny houses first since they litter the cities they run.....


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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2016, 12:40:39 am »
I have seen old RV's and mobile homes that look a lot more dangerous than your typical tiny house.  There really is no reason for federal building codes anyway.  The feds could basically suggest standards without mandating, and then let each locality determine for itself.  But then, that would allow too much competition for the national manufacturers, who have paid for this very type of regulation.

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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2016, 12:42:34 am »
I have seen old RV's and mobile homes that look a lot more dangerous than your typical tiny house.  There really is no reason for federal building codes anyway.  The feds could basically suggest standards without mandating, and then let each locality determine for itself.  But then, that would allow too much competition for the national manufacturers, who have paid for this very type of regulation.

Great points.

And, there is the old truism . . . governments only enlarge themselves and engulf more power . . . they never give it up, except by force. Maybe it's time to invest in pitchforks.

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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2016, 12:43:42 am »
The Libs should focus on these tiny houses first since they litter the cities they run.....



INDEED.

Though, they are evidently rather loathe to admit that their strategies, goals and methods are utterly bankrupt and destructive.
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2016, 02:06:20 am »
I thought they wanted us living in tiny houses because it was "eco"?

they don't want the peasants to move around so much though

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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2016, 02:11:23 am »
they don't want the peasants to move around so much though

INDEED!

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THX 1138 Was George Lucas' Master's Thesis.

It gives a great depiction of what the oligarchy is working toward.
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