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Re: TRUMP: A BETTER CANDIDATE THAN REAGAN
« Reply #50 on: October 22, 2016, 04:06:55 pm »
And thats why any sane person should divest their lives of these unstable people. You can't be sure which one will go off and which won't. Even here on this site they have insunuated violence several times. Some TOd, some just had their posts pulled. They display many of the characteristics of jihadist muslims. Blind loyalty. Mysoginy. Bhagdad Bob-like worldview and an unwavering tendency to take the word of their 'prophet' as 'gospel'.

Trump said he'd pay their legal bills. They think he will. We can't be sure which Trumper will suddenly 'explode'.

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All true.  Before I left TOS, one of them told me I needed to get my head right about Trump, and that he was just the person to do it.  Robinson's response was to shut me out of my account.

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Re: TRUMP: A BETTER CANDIDATE THAN REAGAN
« Reply #51 on: October 22, 2016, 04:12:03 pm »
Trump never signed abortion into law.

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So? Trump has never signed anything into law. Trump has also never nominated any judges.  All we have is a list of potential SCOTUS nominees - a list that he is under no obligation to stick to.

Donald Trump: "I'm Very Pro Choice," Partial Birth Abortion is OK (from 1999)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsOlXidHXRE

Donald Trump on Abortion (from last year)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z58gGb3C0DU

While it is very possible that Trump did have a sincere change of heart on abortion, note that Trump still supports abortion for rape, incest and “health (not life) of the mother”, cases were the mother “may die”, saying it’s basically Ronald Reagan.  But it’s not and if Trump ever bothered to read anything about Regan and the 1967 CA bill he signed, Trump would know better, as would you and other Trump supporters.

There is also a lot of speculation that the supposed “friend” he refers to, the friend who wanted his wife or girlfriend to get an abortion but they didn’t and the child grew up to be a “superstar” is himself i.e. when Marla told him he was pregnant with their daughter Tiffany and Trump said as much on the Howard Stern Show – “So what are we going to do about this?”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DC0ZkwAGjc

Reagan’s Darkest Hour

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/223437/reagans-darkest-hour-paul-kengor-patricia-clark-doerner

Read the whole thing but this in particular stands out:

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Nonetheless, he signed the bill. Reagan and his staff calculated that if he vetoed the bill, his veto would be overridden by the state legislature. Therefore, he decided to do what he could to make the bill less harmful, arguing for the insertion of certain language that eliminated its worst features and allowed for abortion only in rare cases — such as rape or incest, or where pregnancy would gravely impair the physical or mental health of the mother.

The Therapeutic Abortion Act became law. And as would happen with nearly every abortion law in the years ahead, the mental-health provision was abused by patient and doctor alike. Reagan biographer Lou Cannon notes that even the bill’s Democratic sponsor confessed to being surprised that physicians so liberally interpreted the law. Reagan was shocked at the unintended consequences of his action. Morris said Reagan was left with an “undefinable sense of guilt” after watching abortions skyrocket. Cannon claims this was “the only time as governor or president that Reagan acknowledged a mistake on major legislation.” Clark called the incident “perhaps Reagan’s greatest disappointment in public life.”

It should also be noted that Roe V Wade made the law the Reagan signed moot.
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« Reply #52 on: October 22, 2016, 04:13:04 pm »
Blatant disregard for truth, honesty, integrity, honor and character is what we're seeing in this election year.  The many masks have been ripped off. 

Comparing Trump to Reagan dishonors Reagan, his memory and the Conservative movement...and it clearly shows the disdain for Reagan that anyone comparing him to Trump has for one of the greatest presidents of all time. 

And I finally see why WND has been called World Nut Daily.  I get it 'now'. 
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« Reply #53 on: October 22, 2016, 04:15:02 pm »
@TomSea

So? Trump has never signed anything into law. Trump has also never nominated any judges.  All we have is a list of potential SCOTUS nominees - a list that he is under no obligation to stick to.

Donald Trump: "I'm Very Pro Choice," Partial Birth Abortion is OK (from 1999)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsOlXidHXRE

Donald Trump on Abortion (from last year)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z58gGb3C0DU

While it is very possible that Trump did have a sincere change of heart on abortion, note that Trump still supports abortion for rape, incest and “health (not life) of the mother”, cases were the mother “may die”, saying it’s basically Ronald Reagan.  But it’s not and if Trump ever bothered to read anything about Regan and the 1967 CA bill he signed, Trump would know better, as would you and other Trump supporters.

There is also a lot of speculation that the supposed “friend” he refers to, the friend who wanted his wife or girlfriend to get an abortion but they didn’t and the child grew up to be a “superstar” is himself i.e. when Marla told him he was pregnant with their daughter Tiffany and Trump said as much on the Howard Stern Show – “So what are we going to do about this?”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DC0ZkwAGjc

Reagan’s Darkest Hour

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/223437/reagans-darkest-hour-paul-kengor-patricia-clark-doerner

Read the whole thing but this in particular stands out:

It should also be noted that Roe V Wade made the law the Reagan signed moot.

What we DO have is Trump's comment that his pro-partial-birth-abortion sister would make a great USSC justice....just last year.  But he did say that would have to 'wait' (be put on a back burner) for now.  For now....meaning until he could fool enough fools into voting him into office.
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« Reply #54 on: October 22, 2016, 04:18:17 pm »
I really wonder what RR would think of all this... :shrug:

I think those of us who respect Reagan can figure it out.

Trump is the anti-Reagan.  Everything Reagan was, Trump is not.  Everything Reagan wasn't, Trump is.

Two people could not be any farther apart in every sense of the word.

He would be too much of a gentleman to say anything as bad as what he thought, but everyone who respects him can be pretty sure about what he would be thinking now.

Shame.  Like the rest of us.
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« Reply #55 on: October 22, 2016, 04:19:00 pm »
For those folks criticizing this well reasoned article, try reading it first. You’d be amazed how that can elevate your arguments above ad hominems and possibly bring them up to the level of thoughtful analysis.


Well reasoned? The man's initial premise is that Trump's better positioned to "advance conservatism." By the end, he's wandered off into populist territory. Last I checked, conservatism ≠ populism ("
Trump’s candidacy represents just the current skirmish in the populist vs. globalist struggle"). The article is drivel.
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« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2016, 04:34:07 pm »
Just remember AZ is a Castle Doctrine state keyboard Kommando. Choose wisely. And LEGALLY. We will.

What did he say, anyway? I'm assuming it must have been a particularly bad personal attack to be deleted...

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« Reply #57 on: October 22, 2016, 04:35:34 pm »
What did he say, anyway? I'm assuming it must have been a particularly bad personal attack to be deleted...

Considering the garbage he posts that is allowed to stand, this one must have been a dilly to be excised......

Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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« Reply #58 on: October 22, 2016, 04:37:46 pm »
Gettysburg speech, Judge Scalia's wife has a Trump sign in her front yard.

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« Reply #59 on: October 22, 2016, 04:38:38 pm »
What did he say, anyway? I'm assuming it must have been a particularly bad personal attack to be deleted...

Apparently, it was a direct threat.  One so heinous that the mod had to remove it.  Not surprising, considering that it came from a die-hard Trumpist, mind you.  These people are not conservatives.  They are anything BUT conservatives, in fact.  Trumpocrats.
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« Reply #60 on: October 22, 2016, 04:43:26 pm »
What did he say, anyway? I'm assuming it must have been a particularly bad personal attack to be deleted...

Just the standard Trumpian implied violence against any not bowing down to their lord and savior once he takes power. They have done that increasingly often here lately, then deny they did it and pretend something different was meant.

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« Reply #61 on: October 22, 2016, 04:44:51 pm »

Here is a little history... Abortion was legal in SOME STATES. What Roe vs Wade did was it set precedent that the Supreme Court granted rights.. Now if Roe vs Wade is overturned (it won't), some states will make Abortion legal and some will not.
Her's a little more. Romney not only passed abortion laws, he profited from them via Stericycle. His voters made a conscious decision to trade a win with an abortion profiteer for the lives of babies. They lost, the GOP went left and a guy like Trump became possible.

No one that voted for that pos has the right to say SQUAT about either abortion, which my comment to the trump droid was intended for in the first place, or complain about the party running off a cliff when they are as responsible for that as the Trump supporter is for the coming Hillary presidency.

If you are proud of your vote for the above, as well as the man that fathered gay marriage in America, created the core of Obamacare and attacked conservatives before and since his failed campaign with as much fervor as Trump, that speaks for itself.

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Norm, with all due respect, you might want to read this:

Left-Wing Blogs Falsely Attack Romney on Abortion, Stericycle
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/07/04/left-wing-blogs-falsely-attack-romney-on-abortion-stericycle/

And

Did Romney Invest in the Abortion Industry? (Answer: No)
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/07/23/did_romney_invest_in_the_abortion_industry__answer_no
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« Reply #62 on: October 22, 2016, 04:48:50 pm »
Just the standard Trumpian implied violence against any not bowing down to their lord and savior once he takes power. They have done that increasingly often here lately, then deny they did it and pretend something different was meant.

Should tell even the reluctant Trump voters all they need to know about Donnie when his Storm Troopers resort to implied and overt threats of violence to try and force people to submit to Trump's will.

Hell I've even received an implied threat that my comments about Trump would negatively effect my military service if I didn't stop criticizing him.
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« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2016, 04:49:48 pm »
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Norm, with all due respect, you might want to read this:

Left-Wing Blogs Falsely Attack Romney on Abortion, Stericycle
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/07/04/left-wing-blogs-falsely-attack-romney-on-abortion-stericycle/

And

Did Romney Invest in the Abortion Industry? (Answer: No)
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/07/23/did_romney_invest_in_the_abortion_industry__answer_no

With all due respect, I have read far more on this subject over a period of years, including Romney's history than that article and I encourage everyone conflicted about this to do likewise.

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« Reply #64 on: October 22, 2016, 04:51:22 pm »
Considering the garbage he posts that is allowed to stand, this one must have been a dilly to be excised......

@musiclady  I saw it before it got 86'ed.  Garden variety comment about settling some scores post 11/8.  He played this one just a little too closely on the cute side of the line.  You've seen a lot worse.
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« Reply #65 on: October 22, 2016, 04:53:06 pm »
Should tell even the reluctant Trump voters all they need to know about Donnie when his Storm Troopers resort to implied and overt threats of violence to try and force people to submit to Trump's will.

Hell I've even received an implied threat that my comments about Trump would negatively effect my military service if I didn't stop criticizing him.

Oy.  Where was that (I'd like to read it)?

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« Reply #66 on: October 22, 2016, 04:54:07 pm »
Trump never signed abortion into law.

No, but he paid his mistresses to get them. Only recently did he have a magical conversion on the issue and he still flip flops all over the place on it.

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« Reply #67 on: October 22, 2016, 04:56:03 pm »
Oy.  Where was that (I'd like to read it)?

Off into the ether apparently.

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« Reply #68 on: October 22, 2016, 04:56:38 pm »
Just remember AZ is a Castle Doctrine state keyboard Kommando. Choose wisely. And LEGALLY. We will.

Damn, did I miss another chairborne ranger making an internet threat?

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« Reply #69 on: October 22, 2016, 04:56:52 pm »
Oy.  Where was that (I'd like to read it)?

The threat was made by one of Happy's new friends at another website. I screen capped it. I'll see if I can fnd it. I posted it here too shortly after my arrival at TBR in one of the welcome threads. 
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« Reply #70 on: October 22, 2016, 04:57:50 pm »
Should tell even the reluctant Trump voters all they need to know about Donnie when his Storm Troopers resort to implied and overt threats of violence to try and force people to submit to Trump's will.

Hell I've even received an implied threat that my comments about Trump would negatively effect my military service if I didn't stop criticizing him.

Thats the liberal way. Every move they make has a 100% liberal analog to it in history. Thus they are liberals doing what all liberals do.

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« Reply #71 on: October 22, 2016, 04:58:15 pm »
@kevindavis
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Norm, with all due respect, you might want to read this:

Left-Wing Blogs Falsely Attack Romney on Abortion, Stericycle
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/07/04/left-wing-blogs-falsely-attack-romney-on-abortion-stericycle/

And

Did Romney Invest in the Abortion Industry? (Answer: No)
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/07/23/did_romney_invest_in_the_abortion_industry__answer_no


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I thought so..


As for the Gay Marriage, he was under COURT ORDER..


With this election being the exception there is no such thing as a candidate who agrees with you all of the time. I go with Reagan's philosophy, if I can agree with the person 80% of the time he is OK. You are never going to get a candidate that is 100%.


Again this election being the exception.


I think everyone on both sides needs learn civics.
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« Reply #72 on: October 22, 2016, 04:58:59 pm »
@musiclady  I saw it before it got 86'ed.  Garden variety comment about settling some scores post 11/8.  He played this one just a little too closely on the cute side of the line.  You've seen a lot worse.

You mean "cute" as in "threatening violence?"

I wonder if these are keyboard wimps who are afraid of their own shadows (or their mothers' voices upstairs) or if they are really capable of carrying out the threat of getting even with non Trump supporters.

In either case, these people are not funny or cute, and I'm glad the Mods are dealing with them.
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« Reply #73 on: October 22, 2016, 05:00:34 pm »
Damn, did I miss another chairborne ranger making an internet threat?

Same old. One of the Snowflakes left their safe space and played commando again. His Viagra probably kicked in.

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« Reply #74 on: October 22, 2016, 05:01:34 pm »

@Neverdul
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I thought so..


As for the Gay Marriage, he was under COURT ORDER..


With this election being the exception there is no such thing as a candidate who agrees with you all of the time. I go with Reagan's philosophy, if I can agree with the person 80% of the time he is OK. You are never going to get a candidate that is 100%.


Again this election being the exception.


I think everyone on both sides needs learn civics.

Might behoove you to read deeper.