Laura Ingraham: 'Never Trump' stands with Clinton and partial birth

[txradioguy]

So according to this logic, Ronald Reagan who signed abortion into California law, could never be considered a Pro-Lifer.

Thanks for playing! 

Talk about taking things completely out of contest.

[TomSea]

Talk about taking things completely out of contest.

Your talking about it alright. Good.

Some comeback, and "contest" as well.

[musiclady]

Talk about taking things completely out of contest.

He HAS to take things out of context to keep perpetuating his lies.

This one is a master at distortion and deceit.

However, he's completely transparent, and therefore fails in all he attempts.

The lies aren't working because people here are too informed and too intelligent to fall for his Trumpian idiocy.

[Sanguine]

I finally read this article.  I used to listen to Ingraham years ago, and for the most part, I liked her POV.  A little too hard-core newly-minted Catholic for me, but that was my only real disagreement with her.  I found her to be a clear thinker and fearless in examining, discerning and exposing evil.

This is extremely disappointing.  She's lost all objectivity and rationality. 

[TomSea]

I've been pro-life since I found out about in elementary school, Catholic School;

If folks don't want to support a ticket with the most Pro-Life Republican ever on it, Mike Pence, that's your decision.  It's not my problem.

Anti-Trumpers need not take cheap shots on others and accuse people of lying.

Does one want a list of pro-life endorsements of Trump,

Operation Rescue, Rick Perry, and on and on it goes.

I hope Mod3 steps in on these personal attacks, I'm not confrontational, so once the insult flag goes up, I won't read anymore of those posts.

[TomSea]

Laura Ingraham likewise is a reknown Pro-Lifer, maybe a convert to Catholicism, so if one wants to attack people with long records of being pro-life, that's not my problem.

Trump has many pro-life supporters, insult them all if that is what it takes.

[Norm Lenhart]

I've been pro-life since I found out about in elementary school, Catholic School;

If folks don't want to support a ticket with the most Pro-Life Republican ever on it, Mike Pence, that's your decision.  It's not my problem.

Anti-Trumpers need not take cheap shots on others and accuse people of lying.

Does one want a list of pro-life endorsements of Trump,

Operation Rescue, Rick Perry, and on and on it goes.

I hope Mod3 steps in on these personal attacks, I'm not confrontational, so once the insult flag goes up, I won't read anymore of those posts.

I'm still waiting for your answer about voting for Abortion profiteer Romney. Did I miss it? Did you vote for him? That would tell everyone about how serious you are about abortion as a base. We can get into Trump later.

[Sanguine]

I've been pro-life since I found out about in elementary school, Catholic School;

If folks don't want to support a ticket with the most Pro-Life Republican ever on it, Mike Pence, that's your decision.  It's not my problem.
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Does one want a list of pro-life endorsements of Trump,

Operation Rescue, Rick Perry, and on and on it goes.

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Tom, I don't think that's fair.  The argument that I have with Trump and the subject of abortion is that he has spoken on both sides of the abortion issue - that's not my opinion; that's provable fact.  If he says he is now anti-abortion, I applaud him, however, as a rational person, I have to insist on objective proof that he has changed. So far, that isn't available. 

Here's to hoping that he has changed.

[ABX]

Only one candidate out of all of them, that I'm aware of, actually directly paid for abortions (versus indirect legislative funding), and that's the one she supports.

[XenaLee]

He HAS to take things out of context to keep perpetuating his lies.

This one is a master at distortion and deceit.

However, he's completely transparent, and therefore fails in all he attempts.

The lies aren't working because people here are too informed and too intelligent to fall for his Trumpian idiocy.

The propagandist Trumpocrats are only too transparent to those of us conservatives that know them for what they are and for what they supposedly stand for.  Truth is...they stand for nothing.  It's all "negotiable" with them.  Their "core values" are like a pile of leaves, easily blown by the wind....the wind being the blowhard Trump.   And they, like Trump, have proven themselves to be highly flexible when it comes to ethics and moral stances.  As illustrated by how they have championed every flip-flop and every walk-back and betrayal of conservative values that Trump has made.   

As for those that will vote for Trump despite his obvious flaws.... Trump and his core group of leftist cohorts have to be laughing themselves silly at how easily duped and fooled people are these days.  Give people no choice and they will vote for what they "perceive" as the least damaging candidate.  Problem is.... both candidates are of the same ilk....so the perception is skewed and faulty. 

This is an historic election.  In so many ways.  Too bad the history books will be written to portray it other than truthfully.

Perhaps we conservatives should consider creating a time capsule with the real truth hidden for someone to find at a future date.  It might, at least, make future generations take pause and consider how fragile their freedom really is....

or was.

[Norm Lenhart]

The propagandist Trumpocrats are only too transparent to those of us conservatives that know them for what they are and for what they supposedly stand for.  Truth is...they stand for nothing.  It's all "negotiable" with them.  Their "core values" are like a pile of leaves, easily blown by the wind....the wind being the blowhard Trump.   And they, like Trump, have proven themselves to be highly flexible when it comes to ethics and moral stances.  As illustrated by how they have championed every flip-flop and every walk-back and betrayal of conservative values that Trump has made.   

As for those that will vote for Trump despite his obvious flaws.... Trump and his core group of leftist cohorts have to be laughing themselves silly at how easily duped and fooled people are these days.  Give people no choice and they will vote for what they "perceive" as the least damaging candidate.  Problem is.... both candidates are of the same ilk....so the perception is skewed and faulty. 

This is an historic election.  In so many ways.  Too bad the history books will be written to portray it other than truthfully.

Perhaps we conservatives should consider creating a time capsule with the real truth hidden for someone to find at a future date.  It might, at least, make future generations take pause and consider how fragile their freedom really is....

or was.

Thats why we have to make sure our kids are taught well.

Barring thermonuclear glassing of the entire planet, the truth is stored in print and on literally  billions and billions of hard drives. You can bet your life many people have archived this mess for exactly that reason. They cannot erase it all. Ever. And the truth ALWAYS comes out.

[TomSea]

Don't act offended, because you're not. You can dish it out, and I know you can take it.

You repudiate "pro-abortion Trump"  which necessarily allows Hillary the baby killer to take the throne. Your cognitive dissonance is impressive.

Well said, some dish it out.

What Trump said was in 1999;

Romney has been criticized in the same way, I wonder if the poster could have stooped to vote for Romney?  If they could vote for Mitt but not Trump, then, it starts to look like hypocrisy.  I voted for Mitt,  McCain Palin, Bush,  that is being consistent, not inconsistent.

Anyway, it's not my problem,  I will be consistent and not a hypocrite. That's their problem.

[Norm Lenhart]

Well said, some dish it out.

What Trump said was in 1999;

Romney has been criticized in the same way, I wonder if the poster could have stooped to vote for Romney?  If they could vote for Mitt but not Trump, then, it starts to look like hypocrisy.  I voted for Mitt,  McCain Palin, Bush,  that is being consistent, not inconsistent.

Anyway, it's not my problem,  I will be consistent and not a hypocrite. That's their problem.

So you INTENTIONALLY supported Abortion trying to elect an abortion profiteer. A man that profited from his own laws. And now you support another candidate that supports Abortion and funding the biggest child slaughterhouse on the planet. You have ZERO credibility.

[TomSea]

I think that one Evangelical Preacher said it correctly,

One can vote for the platform these candidates are running on and not the individual.

I'd say that is what I'm voting for.

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Again, take the Ted Cruz Lindsay Graham bill prohibiting abortions after 20 weeks, are we going to use some sort of warped logic as some do and say "but that allows abortion in the first 20 weeks", isn't it better to try to prohibit abortions after 20 weeks than have nothing at all.

Good luck to the cheap shot artist accusing me of lying about the right to life.


We can tell Metaxas and Father Pavone this too.

[Norm Lenhart]

I think that one Evangelical Preacher said it correctly,

One can vote for the platform these candidates are running on and not the individual.

I'd say that is what I'm voting for.

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Again, take the Ted Cruz Lindsay Graham bill prohibiting abortions after 20 weeks, are we going to use some sort of warped logic as some do and say "but that allows abortion in the first 20 weeks", isn't it better to try to prohibit abortions after 20 weeks than have nothing at all.

Good luck to the cheap shot artist accusing me of lying about the right to life.


We can tell Metaxas and Father Pavone this too.

There's a lot of frauds out there preaching completely false doctrine. You of all people are familiar with that.

[ABX]

I think that one Evangelical Preacher said it correctly,

One can vote for the platform these candidates are running on and not the individual.

I'd say that is what I'm voting for.

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Again, take the Ted Cruz Lindsay Graham bill prohibiting abortions after 20 weeks, are we going to use some sort of warped logic as some do and say "but that allows abortion in the first 20 weeks", isn't it better to try to prohibit abortions after 20 weeks than have nothing at all.

Good luck to the cheap shot artist accusing me of lying about the right to life.


We can tell Metaxas and Father Pavone this too.

A political party, for all intents and purposes, is just a marketing company. A platform for that party, is just words, nothing more. It is like a commercial for health food making a lot of claims. The crappiest food can be labeled and make claims of being health food, but is it really?

Voting based on that is like selecting a product based on which one has the flashiest ad campaign versus the quality.

One has to measure the honesty and actions of the person you are voting for based on their history to know if they have any intention of living up to the platform.

The platform is not on the ballot. The platform does not make decisions. The platform has absolutely no meaning other than to sell you the product.

Voting for a platform is like eating the label off a can of soup.

[Hoodat]

If folks don't want to support a ticket with the most Pro-Life Republican ever on it, Mike Pence, that's your decision.

I don't want to support a ticket headed by someone who openly advocates using taxpayer dollars to subsidize America's #1 abortion provider.  And I don't see how anyone claiming to be pro-life can.

[Hoodat]

Again, take the Ted Cruz Lindsay Graham bill prohibiting abortions after 20 weeks, are we going to use some sort of warped logic as some do and say "but that allows abortion in the first 20 weeks", isn't it better to try to prohibit abortions after 20 weeks than have nothing at all.

One thing that would be better is to cut off taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood and watch the number of abortions they perform fall dramatically as clinic after clinic closed their doors because of lack of funding.

Yet shortly after the release and revelation of the CMP videos - where Planned Parenthood was caught red-handed (literally) selling baby body parts - at a time when Republicans were near unanimous in cutting off federal funding, one person stood alone and called for a continuation of funding, declaring that Planned Parenthood did "wonderful things".  That person was Donald Trump.

And this is what you support.

[Hoodat]

Romney has been criticized in the same way, I wonder if the poster could have stooped to vote for Romney?  If they could vote for Mitt but not Trump, then, it starts to look like hypocrisy.

Romney is considerably more Conservative than Trump.

[Axel]

I respectfully disagree, Norm.  Not about liberalism, but about these few trolls who taint this forum.

The lies, the support for depravity, the disregard for the lives of the unborn, the mocking of people with moral standards...... these are signs of a deeper issue than just politics.  There's a warped sense of self here.

I know people who are liberal politically, but are still ethical.  I know people who are liberal politically who are still kind.  I know people who are liberal politically who still treat others with respect.

These people are both liberal and empty.  They are arguing that wrong is better than right.  That evil is better than good.

As I said before, the source of the lies they're telling isn't difficult to figure out.

No doubt that they are liberals.  NO conservative cheerleads for Trump.  NONE.  But there's far more wrong than that here.

Your posts are always welcomed humor. Please keep em coming 

[musiclady]

Your posts are always welcomed humor. Please keep em coming 

I'll bet you thought that post was about you, didn't you?

But I have to disagree with your reaction here.

There's nothing humorous about sin......yours, or anyone else's.   That's where you go wrong, Axel.

You find evil enjoyable.......

[Axel]

I'll bet you thought that post was about you, didn't you?

But I have to disagree with your reaction here.

There's nothing humorous about sin......yours, or anyone else's.   That's where you go wrong, Axel.

You find evil enjoyable.......

You were clearly referencing myself and others who support Trump.

I will pray for you.

[Norm Lenhart]

You were clearly referencing myself and others who support Trump.

I will pray for you.

To Donald or the devil?

[musiclady]

You were clearly referencing myself and others who support Trump.

I will pray for you.

Guilty conscience there?? 

Sin isn't funny, and mocking those of us who recognize sin for what it is, and know that your hero is an unrepentant sinner isn't funny either.

I'm glad you at least have a smidgen of conscience left.

There's hope for you.

Now go pester someone less well informed, and maybe your trolling will accomplish something other than making you look silly.

Oh........ and btw, I wasn't referring to you in my post.  I don't know you well enough to say those things.  As far as I know, you're just an internet pest trying to be 'cool' by annoying serious people........... and defending sin.

 

[musiclady]

To Donald or the devil?

Strange comment for someone defending sin, isn't it?