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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2016, 04:30:16 pm »
Trump lost me on that one. 



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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2016, 04:37:54 pm »
My wife is on the 25 year income based plan. Otherwise our payments would be $900/month.


Insane huh?

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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2016, 04:42:42 pm »
A quick google search from a student loan company and it said the average student loan period was 15 years but many pay extra to get it down to  10 years.

Based upon this most people would be exempt from Trump's plan.

My wife paid her loan off in 12 years if I recall and she had 4 years post college degree


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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2016, 04:49:45 pm »
I hate to break it to the ever-delusional Trump fans....but....

Trump IS using it as a "gimmie free chit" thing.....

and Trump would be "sticking it hard" to anyone and everyone that isn't in the immediate Trump family if he were to become president.  Just like Hillary would.  Same vultures, different feathers.

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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2016, 04:51:49 pm »
Will Republicans ever learn that they can't out-Democrat a Democrat?

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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2016, 04:51:56 pm »
Better be careful or you will get yourself zotted.  BTW, how is it you've survived this long?  You are too normal to survive that crowd.

Yep, not a good time to be a defeatist over there. 

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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2016, 04:54:16 pm »
How to lose credibility while posting:
1. Trump is never wrong.
2. Default to the most puerile emoticon you can find. This is especially useful when you can't win an argument on merits.
3. Be falsely ingratiating, completely but politely dismissive without talking to the points, and bring up Hillary whenever the conversation is really about conservatism.
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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2016, 05:00:02 pm »
Bernie, is that you?

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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2016, 05:09:22 pm »
Nice to see Mr. Trump took my advice:

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,222856.msg1035837.html#msg1035837

And is now pandering to Millennials.

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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2016, 05:13:06 pm »
My wife is on the 25 year income based plan. Otherwise our payments would be $900/month.


Insane huh?
With figures like that I'm glad I went to a public college.

The freewheeling spending on college campuses (campi?) needs to be reined in yesterday. That, and addressing the ongoing credential inflation in the job market (where jobs that can be done with a basic high school education now require bachelor's degrees and experience), are the only ways the cost of education is going to come back under control.
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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2016, 05:22:45 pm »
I finished my Bachelor's and Master's degrees and my wife did as well, with minimal debt and we paid that off in a few years. (and now I'm working on my second master's degree with zero debt). (and this wasn't a half century ago either, late 90s -early 2000s for both of us, mix of private and public universities).

It is one of first and most important lessons one has in adulthood, paying for college. You quickly learn how to plan for the long term, how to set priorities, how to invest, and the value of work.

Offering anything free or subsidized not only reduces the value, it teaches the wrong lesson that you should expect the government to be your white (orange) knight and bail you out, of anything. It also gives the youth the wrong lessons about contracts and your word. One other lesson they lose is the value of long term planning.

This 'free (or subsidized, or paid off, or whatever way they want to spin it) tuition' game has been one of the worst ideas since Obamacare and will end up with the same result.


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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2016, 05:26:30 pm »
My brother has 4 kids. He told them he would pay 100% of their college cost but the first two years they had to commute to the local university  then they finished up at the state uni.

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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2016, 05:26:41 pm »
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2016, 05:33:20 pm »


This, no doubt will be congressional reaction.

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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2016, 05:38:53 pm »
Let's see...stimulus, child care, now student loan forgiveness...

How much more proof do we need that Trump is no conservative?

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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2016, 05:45:07 pm »
Let's see...stimulus, child care, now student loan forgiveness...

How much more proof do we need that Trump is no conservative?

His supporters are DELUSIONAL!!
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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2016, 05:49:25 pm »
Will Republicans ever learn that they can't out-Democrat a Democrat?

Agreed, and just think how much more expensive college will be with these additional taxpayer funded benefits to students.
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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2016, 06:01:23 pm »
With figures like that I'm glad I went to a public college.

The freewheeling spending on college campuses (campi?) needs to be reined in yesterday. That, and addressing the ongoing credential inflation in the job market (where jobs that can be done with a basic high school education now require bachelor's degrees and experience), are the only ways the cost of education is going to come back under control.


My wife went to a public college too. Learned a harsh lesson.

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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2016, 06:05:02 pm »
My parents sacrificed to send my brother to college.  Of course, it was a state university.  No way could they send him to an Ivy League university, but for my working class parents, even a state university was an expense.  My brother,  however, wasn't a freeloader. During the summer and holidays he always worked at some job or another, if only to pay for his textbooks and supplies.  It was a good lesson for my brother and me.  If you want something, you worked for and sacrificed to get it.  I don't know that this lesson is taught much today.

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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2016, 06:07:58 pm »
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Re: Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2016, 06:16:12 pm »
My parents sacrificed to send my brother to college.  Of course, it was a state university.  No way could they send him to an Ivy League university, but for my working class parents, even a state university was an expense.  My brother,  however, wasn't a freeloader. During the summer and holidays he always worked at some job or another, if only to pay for his textbooks and supplies.  It was a good lesson for my brother and me.  If you want something, you worked for and sacrificed to get it.  I don't know that this lesson is taught much today.

My parents didn't have to pay for a dime of my college, both undergrad and masters. I had a 4 year ROTC scholarship, and I earned my masters while in the Army. I paid for my room and board via my summer job, two summers as a firefighter for the CA Div of Forestry.

My wife worked through college, and we met when she started working in my section at Fort Bliss.

We helped our daughter through college, though not all of it. My oldest son was never the studious type, and he never got past his associate's degree, though he's going back to school next month.

I'm down to my 14 YO son, who makes noises about a goal to attend a service academy. Based on his recent (lack of) performance, I think he needs a reminder. We have sufficient assets to cover the costs at most colleges, but he's going to have to earn it.

I'm also making plans for my 6 YO grandson, who is a really sharp kid. I just hope I'm around long enough to see those plans through.

There's an attitude that I've been rebelling against, these extracurricular booster clubs that expect a blank check on your wallet and your time. And if you don't give them those blank checks, you obviously are a bad parent. I've seen that as well with teachers over the past ten years...no wonder there are so many snowflakes out there.

The little darlings I see need to get a taste of real life, i.e. how to get up after being knocked down, without mommy & daddy to clean up your mess.
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