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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2016, 08:32:49 pm »


None of those other candidates made their case, and stood out from the others.  There were WAY too many candidates in this race, and that's on the RNC...There should never be more than 3.   

I agree there were too many candidates.  But the fault for this loss can be laid directly at the feet of those who voted for Trump in the primaries.  Anyone with a grain of sense could see through him.  There was a wealth of information about the man for anyone who cared to educate themselves.  Those who didn't were either stupid or deliberately deceiving themselves because they wanted to "burn it all down."

Jim Robinson at FR is a prime example.  in 2011 he called Trump a fraud and a liar and said that the only people who bought his BS were fools.  Four years later, he's gushing about Trump being a patriot and a Christian soldier and posting pictures of Donald photoshopped as George Washington.  Until then, I really didn't know the human mind had such a capacity for self-deception.

It was a shock to learn that people on our side could be just as rock-bottom stupid and subject to cultic behavior as the most leftwing Obamabot.  But here we are.

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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2016, 08:34:55 pm »
It is absolutely shameful that Trump and his backers are so emotionally entrenched with him that they are willing to throw away that high ground we have occupied for decades.

You are absolutely right that this will "prove" the formerly false stereotype of conservatives that liberals have accused us of for a very long time.

And where does that leave us, who actually believe in morality, integrity and decency?  We have no party that represents our values.

Speaking for myself, I'm absolutely done with the GOP.  Look at them today.  Only three days ago, Trump was revealed to be a sexual predator and they were ready to dump him.  Now, because he didn't completely flame out in the debate, they're ready to give him anotehr chance. 

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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2016, 08:35:58 pm »
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  Anyone with a grain of sense could see through him.  There was a wealth of information about the man for anyone who cared to educate themselves.

and yet there are still people fooling themselves into thinking Trump is some unknown quantity who might do the right thing, ignoring his lifelong history

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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2016, 08:36:34 pm »
And what has that "High Ground" gotten us?

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What do you think gutter ground will get us?  God is real.  We can't elect a man like Trump and expect good things to happen for the country.

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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2016, 08:38:05 pm »
and yet there are still people fooling themselves into thinking Trump is some unknown quantity who might do the right thing, ignoring his lifelong history

I don't know that he's ever done the right thing.  I wouldn't expect him to start now.

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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2016, 08:40:31 pm »
@dfwgator

What do you think gutter ground will get us?  God is real.  We can't elect a man like Trump and expect good things to happen for the country.

Ditto for Hillary.

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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2016, 08:42:39 pm »
Ditto for Hillary.

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Of course, but that's always the answer, isn't it?  Hillary's the same, or Clinton abused women, too.  We need higher standards.

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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2016, 08:43:35 pm »
Ditto for Hillary.

Yes.  And shame on you for promoting evil.  BOTH Hillary and Donald are evil.

God is not mocked.  Excusing criminality and abuse of women is inexcusable by ANY standard of decency or morality.

Have you abandoned them all in your defense of perversion??
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2016, 08:44:37 pm »
Yes.  And shame on you for promoting evil.  BOTH Hillary and Donald are evil.

God is not mocked.  Excusing criminality and abuse of women is inexcusable by ANY standard of decency or morality.

Have you abandoned them all in your defense of perversion??
No. It's just that the sad fact is, One of Them is going to win,  you cannot wish that fact away.

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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2016, 08:48:00 pm »
No. It's just that the sad fact is, One of Them is going to win,  you cannot wish that fact away.

I'm not wishing anything away.  I'm deeply disturbed by the reality of what Trump primary voters have done to not only foist evil upon us, but to insure that Hillary will win the election.

But I am also not going to be responsible for the election of either one of them.  I am NOT going to support evil, one way or the other.

You feel free to do what you like.  It's clear that Trump's perversion doesn't trouble you at all.

And that you share with all good liberals.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2016, 09:29:12 pm »
Pretty much, since Reagan.

We had the chance this year...to nominate someone in the mold of Reagan
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2016, 10:13:23 pm »
Trump has so corrupted America that the only solution is one that Bret Stephens of the WSJ hoped for last January: He must be defeated so soundly and so thoroughly and by such huge numbers that his idiot followers will never try something like this again.

I disagree.

The time for defeating Trump was in the primaries.  Now it's all over but the screaming.  The inevitable howling that will take place when he loses to Hillary, as planned.  So in effect, their plan (they being the rabid left and those that infiltrated the GOP (Trumpocrats) for this mission and this hostile but benign-appearing takeover) will have worked splendidly and therefore, yes.....they WILL try it again.  And why wouldn't they?

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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2016, 03:40:02 am »
@musiclady

All good points.

On another thread I posted a link to a picture of Trump supporters gathered outside RNC headquarters.  One of them held a sign that said "Better to grab a p***y than be one."

How is it possible that his backers haven't stepped away from him en masse?  It's really beyond comprehension.  If we've reached the point that people have no problem with sexual predation in a presidential nominee, then I believe the culture is completely corrupted and that nominee is a manifestation of God's judgment. 

Aside from that, the GOP will forever be linked with Trump and his issues.  We've lost the moral high ground; in fact the party has played right into the worst stereotypes promoted by liberals.

Because his ardent supporters want someone who abuses and assaults people.  We saw the violence at his rallies and his demonization of Hispanics.

Women are an especially convenient target as well.  After all, how many times has a man come home from a bad day at work and taken it out on his wife?

And this *IS* what a significant plurality of the GOP want. 

In essence, they want someone to make them feel superior again.  And to get revenge on all those cu*ks for electing 'that Kenyan monkey'.

We've also, historically, seen what happens when these types get power.

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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2016, 06:49:31 pm »
I don't know how any woman can vote trump. Unless she's paying bridge.  ****drummer
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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2016, 06:52:57 pm »
Same ol' establishment writers, David French, NRO. Big deal.

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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2016, 06:54:37 pm »
I don't see how any woman can vote Democrat and Clinton, and be for the invasion of their own bodies as abortion is. Oh well, different strokes.

Don't vote for Trump, more ISIS in the US, more illegals, more war.

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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2016, 08:40:14 pm »
Same ol' establishment writers, David French, NRO. Big deal.

Same old blame the messenger ignore the message BS from a Branch Trumpidian.

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Re: Donald Trump's Corruption Of The GOP Is Almost Complete
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2016, 10:07:55 pm »
Jim Robinson at FR is a prime example.  in 2011 he called Trump a fraud and a liar and said that the only people who bought his BS were fools.  Four years later, he's gushing about Trump being a patriot and a Christian soldier and posting pictures of Donald photoshopped as George Washington.  Until then, I really didn't know the human mind had such a capacity for self-deception.

I hear you. I keep JR's words as my tagline to remind me (and anyone else paying attention) how true your observation is.



It was a shock to learn that people on our side could be just as rock-bottom stupid and subject to cultic behavior as the most leftwing Obamabot.  But here we are.

Sad, huh? I don't have the know-how to do it, but I'll bet an equivalent of
this video can be made to illustrate how Trump became the Republican nominee.



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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2016, 10:11:37 pm »
They excoriated us that we must support the party and its nominee

We all know they are about to vote Democrat down ballot, even if they do not.