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The Facts about Transgenderism
« on: October 05, 2016, 01:39:48 pm »
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Oct. 5, 2016

What in the world has happened to sound logical thinking by the American public? The more I read the news, the more I think that we, as a whole, have lost our minds. We have been deceived into allowing our feelings rule over truth.

I am referring to the current "craze" known as transgenderism.

More... http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/the_facts_about_transgenderism.html


This is political because it has been made to be. If the acceptance of transgenderism can be enforced as law then so can be mermaidism.

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2016, 04:13:28 pm »
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Dominic A. Diorio, MD
Oct. 5, 2016

What in the world has happened to sound logical thinking by the American public? The more I read the news, the more I think that we, as a whole, have lost our minds. We have been deceived into allowing our feelings rule over truth.

I am referring to the current "craze" known as transgenderism.

More... http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/the_facts_about_transgenderism.html


This is political because it has been made to be. If the acceptance of transgenderism can be enforced as law then so can be mermaidism.

It's much easier to defeat a nation if you can eliminate the core beliefs and values of that nation.  This latest 'transgenderism' is just one more plank of that agenda.   It's a dichotomy....that while leftists try to ""transform"" American individuality into group-think sheeple-like mentality (everyone is equal no matter what and everyone follows what government dictates)....they're also pushing the meme that individuals that choose to identify as something that they are not (via delusional, fantasy, mental illness, etc.) are to be lauded and protected by government mandate.  So it's ok to be an individual in the leftist state....as long as you self-identify as one of their protected species.

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2016, 04:18:30 pm »
https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is 'Mental Disorder;' Sex Change 'Biologically Impossible' - CNS News

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2004/11/surgical-sex

http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21364939


That's good but the McHugh story comes and goes without effect and the other publications get no publicity. It's good to see others speak up.

BTW, I'm transitioning to minotaur next week. 

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2016, 04:49:59 pm »

That's good but the McHugh story comes and goes without effect and the other publications get no publicity. It's good to see others speak up.

BTW, I'm transitioning to minotaur next week.

You should post pictures.😁
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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2016, 04:55:00 pm »

It is the inevitable progression of the homosexual lobby.  Just as November will follow September, the questioning and doubt around actual gender had to follow the acceptance of homosexuality as normal.  Neither are normal, but if you accept one, the other is a given.

We have a client who is a homosexual.  Successful, wealthy.  Many of his employees are also homosexuals.  Extensive exposure has convinced me that they don't so much care about "rights" as they are driven to try to make others accept them as normal.  They want their lifestyle to be considered normal. That biology argues against that just makes them mad. 
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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2016, 06:49:56 pm »
Extensive exposure has convinced me that they don't so much care about "rights" as they are driven to try to make others accept them as normal.  They want their lifestyle to be considered normal.

That's in order to assuage their guilt, by making everybody complicit.
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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2016, 06:52:47 pm »
The problem with transgenderism is that if you can enshrine something that is nothing but a mental fantasy into law and society, then you can enshrine any type of heinous behavior, simply based on 'identity'.

If you truly want equality that is, like the liberals claim. If you want to pick and choose, then you make the State into the Church, by being the arbiter and enforcer of all acceptable and unacceptable 'identity' morality.
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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2016, 07:38:27 pm »
The problem with transgenderism is that if you can enshrine something that is nothing but a mental fantasy into law and society, then you can enshrine any type of heinous behavior, simply based on 'identity'.

Any heinous behavior or anything at all.

When it was a matter of live-and-let-live, I didn't care what other people did voluntarily. Or if I did care then that was my problem and not theirs. It's when some people impose their will on others that I must oppose the imposition.

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2016, 07:51:21 pm »
We have a client who is a homosexual.  Successful, wealthy.  Many of his employees are also homosexuals.  Extensive exposure has convinced me that they don't so much care about "rights" as they are driven to try to make others accept them as normal.  They want their lifestyle to be considered normal. That biology argues against that just makes them mad.

I think this is correct. 

The desire to be seen as "normal" is certainly understandable.  Nobody likes to think of themselves, or to be thought of, as "abnormal."

The problem is, of course, that homosexuality is not "normal" in the sense of being counted among "the usual, average, or typical state or condition." 

The "usual condition" for humans everywhere is a proper correspondence between biological and psychological characteristics -- people with boy parts liking people with girl parts, and vice versa.  And of course "normal" corresponds to the usual biological processes of reproduction.  It all fits together.

Of course, everybody knows this, and everybody knows that homosexual behavior is outside this norm, and can never be made to fit within it: it's pretty much impossible.

So what we're really seeing is an attempt to enforce a pretense of normality.  Same-sex "marriage" is the same as normal marriage; I can choose whether or not to honor the normal correspondence between biology and psychology; and so on.

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2016, 08:34:02 pm »
I think this is correct. 

The desire to be seen as "normal" is certainly understandable.  Nobody likes to think of themselves, or to be thought of, as "abnormal."

The problem is, of course, that homosexuality is not "normal" in the sense of being counted among "the usual, average, or typical state or condition." 

The "usual condition" for humans everywhere is a proper correspondence between biological and psychological characteristics -- people with boy parts liking people with girl parts, and vice versa.  And of course "normal" corresponds to the usual biological processes of reproduction.  It all fits together.

Of course, everybody knows this, and everybody knows that homosexual behavior is outside this norm, and can never be made to fit within it: it's pretty much impossible.

So what we're really seeing is an attempt to enforce a pretense of normality.  Same-sex "marriage" is the same as normal marriage; I can choose whether or not to honor the normal correspondence between biology and psychology; and so on.

Good post.  Like how you added detail and enlarged on my observations.
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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2016, 11:43:48 pm »
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Dominic A. Diorio, MD
Oct. 5, 2016

What in the world has happened to sound logical thinking by the American public? The more I read the news, the more I think that we, as a whole, have lost our minds. We have been deceived into allowing our feelings rule over truth.

I am referring to the current "craze" known as transgenderism.

More... http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/the_facts_about_transgenderism.html


This is political because it has been made to be. If the acceptance of transgenderism can be enforced as law then so can be mermaidism.


OMG!  A different topic than "Trump is worse than Hitlery!"?   



To speak to your point,  so can be "transracialism".   


In which case we should all chose to be black female lesbians,  because then we get affirmative entries/hires in all academia/government jobs, etc. 


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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2016, 11:48:36 pm »

That's good but the McHugh story comes and goes without effect and the other publications get no publicity. It's good to see others speak up.



The problem is Media.  They own it and we don't.   If we owned it,  Bill Clinton would never have been President.  (Neither Would George HW Bush.)   


I used to think the media was liberal because liberals naturally gravitate towards those jobs,  but I have recently began to think that the media is liberal precisely because this most suits the financial interests of the people holding their leash.   


A *LOT* of people make a *LOT* of money off of irrational government expenditures and programs,  and these people more or less own the media. 


Their pet "journalists"  know which side their bread is buttered on.

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2016, 11:50:48 pm »
We have a client who is a homosexual.  Successful, wealthy.  Many of his employees are also homosexuals.  Extensive exposure has convinced me that they don't so much care about "rights" as they are driven to try to make others accept them as normal.  They want their lifestyle to be considered normal. That biology argues against that just makes them mad.


They aren't interested in arguing facts,  they are interested in believing what they wish to be true. 


The problem is,  they don't even believe it themselves,  that's why they want constant reassurance that they are "normal."   

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2016, 11:52:27 pm »
That's in order to assuage their guilt, by making everybody complicit.


To aid them in their self delusion.   They want affirmation,  and they want it precisely because deep down in their soul they don't believe they are normal. 


Nobody wants to be a freak.   
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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2016, 11:54:45 pm »
Why is this in politics?  It should be in the science forum.
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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2016, 12:33:42 am »

OMG!  A different topic than "Trump is worse than Hitlery!"?   


Well, there are some 18,000 such comments so a change was due.

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2016, 12:48:24 am »

I used to think the media was liberal because liberals naturally gravitate towards those jobs,  but I have recently began to think that the media is liberal precisely because this most suits the financial interests of the people holding their leash.   


A *LOT* of people make a *LOT* of money off of irrational government expenditures and programs,  and these people more or less own the media. 


Their pet "journalists"  know which side their bread is buttered on.


Yeah, "follow the money" is always good advice. But then the herd instinct is strong. Few risk being ostracized so most will go with the herd or will pretend to.

And that leads to some thoughts about Trump. Intentionally or not, he's breaking the mold. The moldy hold we've been stuck in with the steamship Dems and drag anchor Pubs. I suspect that few of his supporters really give a crap about him. What they do care about is finding a way out of the hold as the Federal galley slaves. Trump has made it okay to say "No!"

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2016, 01:08:54 am »
Good post.  Like how you added detail and enlarged on my observations.
@ConstitutionRose

I don't see/hear "normal' men and women constantly tell others they are male or female.  I don't recall pointing that out to anyone about me.   However, those who think they are other than what they were born to be, seem to spend a good part of their life pointing out to others they are "gay" or whatever other not normal name they think they are.  It is like "Look at me!  I'm different, see, I'm different!"  And they keep it up forever.  We have an extended family member who is gay and this person told us he/she is gay.  So, we said, "Okay, it doesn't matter to us."  That is all we said and went to another subject. 

Also, "normal" men and women don't have parades to celebrate we are "normal".  However, those with so many different sexual persuasion names, have parades where they wear almost nothing clothing and rainbow colors to again say, "Look at us!  We are different, see, we are different!"   I say if they want to be considered normal, then shut up and live your life as normal as we normal people do.  You cannot be considered normal if you constantly yell, "I'm different!  Look at me!"

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2016, 12:46:21 pm »
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Dominic A. Diorio, MD
Oct. 5, 2016

What in the world has happened to sound logical thinking by the American public? The more I read the news, the more I think that we, as a whole, have lost our minds. We have been deceived into allowing our feelings rule over truth.

I am referring to the current "craze" known as transgenderism.

More... http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/the_facts_about_transgenderism.html


This is political because it has been made to be. If the acceptance of transgenderism can be enforced as law then so can be mermaidism.

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2016, 01:14:31 pm »
I kinda know a woman who says she is transgender.  She has legally changed her name from Heather to Zach.  She wears men's clothes but as far as I know she's not doing anything surgically.  Her husband is fine with it, and her daughter seems to be fine with it.  She's an author and involved in the sci-fi comic-con community and she's not hurting anybody, but here is the thing, she doesn't advertise it.  She goes about her life, writes her books and doesn't talk about it unless you specifically ask her questions about it.   
I know a guy who claims to be transgender and he makes such a big issue about that and his sexuality I stopped hanging out with him.  If all you want to talk about is what you do with your genitals, I'm not going to spend time with you, you're too tedious.

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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2016, 01:54:20 pm »
She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

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Re: The Facts about Transgenderism
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2016, 01:59:06 pm »


@bigheadfred

That's foolish. One does not make a choice to be a boy. But they can make a choice to start dressing like a girl and calling themselves a girl.

Similarly, one does not choose to be straight. They simply are. But they can make a choice to be deviant.

Your post is a logical fallacy that assumes certain things AREN'T some way to begin with.
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« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2016, 02:05:29 pm »
I'm a lizard!



I'm a cat!



I'm a vampire!



I'm a... a... a... yeah! Look at me!



I'm a girl!

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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2016, 02:08:19 pm »
And, just because I find this hysterical...

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