'Specific info' forces WikiLeaks to move anticipated announcement to Berlin

[HAPPY2BME]

Published October 03, 2016 FoxNews.com

Julian Assange canceled a dramatic London balcony address on Tuesday in favor of a video presentation in Berlin after WikiLeaks developed "specific information" regarding Assange's safety, the leaked emails clearinghouse tweeted on Monday afternoon.

Some believe the video announcement by the WikiLeaks founder could be an "October surprise" geared towards the U.S. presidential election. Supporters of GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump have said they believe the announcement will be damaging to the candidacy of Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.


WikiLeaks Verified account
‏@wikileaks

Tomorrow's press conf in Berlin proceeds. London speech by Assange has been moved to Berlin due to specific information. #wikileaks10


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/03/will-wikileaks-assange-delay-october-surprise-announcement.html

[sinkspur]

Oh, the drama........the rapist gets free movement in the EU.

[ABX]

Oh, the drama........the rapist gets free movement in the EU.

Assange was cleared of rape charges. Those accusations screamed of either political revenge or someone trying to get fame.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/julian-assange-sex-assault-charges-dropped-121321

[HAPPY2BME]

Oh, the drama........the rapist gets free movement in the EU.

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can u xplain why bill clinton is still roaming free in the usa?

[Oceander]

This is beginning to smell a bit.

[HAPPY2BME]

This is beginning to smell a bit.

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If the “revelation” isn’t a big deal it will cause lofos to say, “seeeeeeeeee? They have nothing on Hillary. She is as pure as the driven snow.”

[sinkspur]

Assange was cleared of rape charges. Those accusations screamed of either political revenge or someone trying to get fame.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/julian-assange-sex-assault-charges-dropped-121321

Then why is he hiding?  Because he's guilty of sabotage?

[ABX]

Then why is he hiding?  Because he's guilty of sabotage?

Because he is guilty (ok, his organization is) of hacking into major government systems, trafficking in classified data, and well, pissing off a lot of well placed people. He isn't in hiding, he is in protective diplomatic custody.

[Oceander]

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If the “revelation” isn’t a big deal it will cause lofos to say, “seeeeeeeeee? They have nothing on Hillary. She is as pure as the driven snow.”

So he'll be playing second fiddle to Trump in helping to get Clinton elected.

[The_Reader_David]

Because he is guilty (ok, his organization is) of hacking into major government systems, trafficking in classified data, and well, pissing off a lot of well placed people. He isn't in hiding, he is in protective diplomatic custody.

He is hiding because the US claims that our laws apply to actions outside the US by persons who are not US citizens and is seeking his extradition on charges based on his handling of US classified information.  You may think this is fine, but consider the precedent it sets and that fact that your posts here might violate some law of the Peoples' Republic of China.

[ABX]

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If the “revelation” isn’t a big deal it will cause lofos to say, “seeeeeeeeee? They have nothing on Hillary. She is as pure as the driven snow.”

So far Wikileaks/DCLeaks have delivered 100% on their promises and far more damning than people imagined.

What they over-estimated was the American people caring or acting accordingly.

[Oceander]

He is hiding because the US claims that our laws apply to actions outside the US by persons who are not US citizens and is seeking his extradition on charges based on his handling of US classified information.  You may think this is fine, but consider the precedent it sets and that fact that your posts here might violate some law of the Peoples' Republic of China.

So the U.S. cannot say "boo" about how U.S. classified information is handled if the person mishandling that information is not a U.S. citizen?

[montanajoe]

it's pretty pathetic that the Trump supporters are waiting for this guy to save their candidates bacon...

[r9etb]

it's pretty pathetic that the Trump supporters are waiting for this guy to save their candidates bacon...

Aw, c'mon.  Even those of us who don't support Trump wouldn't mind at all if Assange dealt Clinton's candidacy a mortal blow.

[r9etb]

So the U.S. cannot say "boo" about how U.S. classified information is handled if the person mishandling that information is not a U.S. citizen?

The US can scream "boo" from the rooftops, but that screaming has no legal force outside our borders.  The issue is therefore one of extradition.  Lots of countries, including the US, will refuse to extradite people back to their native countries for any number of reasons.

[sinkspur]

The US can scream "boo" from the rooftops, but that screaming has no legal force outside our borders.  The issue is therefore one of extradition.  Lots of countries, including the US, will refuse to extradite people back to their native countries for any number of reasons.

If he revealed classified information, we should deal with him the way Israel deals with its enemies when abroad.

[montanajoe]

Aw, c'mon.  Even those of us who don't support Trump wouldn't mind at all if Assange dealt Clinton's candidacy a mortal blow.

The only thing that is going to deal either candidacy a mortal blow is the voters.

"Conservatives" hanging on to these stupid conspiracy theories make all Conservatives look stupid. I'm finding myself embarrassed  to call myself a conservative. The conspiracy nutz and the Trump nutz have killed the brand..

[HAPPY2BME]

If he revealed classified information, we should deal with him the way Israel deals with its enemies when abroad.

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r u agreeing with D.T.'s suggestion?

[r9etb]

"Conservatives" hanging on to these stupid conspiracy theories make all Conservatives look stupid. I'm finding myself embarrassed  to call myself a conservative. The conspiracy nutz and the Trump nutz have killed the brand..

While I agree with you on how "conservatives" too often cling to conspiracy theories, the fact is that leaks of this sort have had a significant impact this year -- Hillary's e-mail stuff, the DNCLeaks thing that caused so much trouble for the Ds during their convention....

And WikiLeaks is among many "leak sources" that have put out real and important information in the past.  Which is why I don't discount the possibility that they've got something big this time.

[r9etb]

If he revealed classified information, we should deal with him the way Israel deals with its enemies when abroad.

If hit squads are the sort of thing you want to start dealing with.... hey, wait: aren't you the same guy who's always railing against cops whenever a police shooting makes the news?

[Frank Cannon]

Then why is he hiding?  Because he's guilty of sabotage?

Hillary Clinton considered drone attack on Julian Assange - report

https://www.rt.com/usa/361459-secretary-clinton-drone-assange/

[The_Reader_David]

So the U.S. cannot say "boo" about how U.S. classified information is handled if the person mishandling that information is not a U.S. citizen?

The notion that the law of a nation applies to persons who are not on the territory of the nation and are not citizens of the nation in question is obnoxious to the concept of national sovereignty.  Again, if extraterritorial application of laws to non-citizens is acceptable, the PRC can seek to arrest and/or extradite US citizens who have never been to China for actions taken outside of China.  If on the basis of treaties, Australia want to prosecute Assange for mishandling American classified information in violation of Australian law implementing such treaties, there would be nothing wrong with that.  I believe we have such treaties with some countries (I think the UK, possibly all of the 5-Eyes countries now), but the US has no right to apply our laws to non-Americans outside of the US, and the assertion of such a right created the right for other countries to apply their laws to Americans in America.

[HonestJohn]

Hillary Clinton considered drone attack on Julian Assange - report

https://www.rt.com/usa/361459-secretary-clinton-drone-assange/

Russia Today isn't exactly a shining example of a free press, what with it being a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Kremlin.

[r9etb]

The notion that the law of a nation applies to persons who are not on the territory of the nation and are not citizens of the nation in question is obnoxious to the concept of national sovereignty.

Excellent discussion.

[sinkspur]

If hit squads are the sort of thing you want to start dealing with.... hey, wait: aren't you the same guy who's always railing against cops whenever a police shooting makes the news?

If the cops are confronted with an admitted terrorist/saboteur/liar/traitor, then I'm all for them laying him out.