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Rush: Trump: The Original Too Big to Fail
« on: October 03, 2016, 06:54:16 pm »
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/10/03/trump_the_original_too_big_to_fail


Trump: The Original Too Big to Fail
October 03, 2016
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RUSH: I need to add one thing, even though it isn't gonna matter to anybody, but I have to let you know anyway. Back in 1995 the New York Times called Donald Trump "the comeback kid," and it's one of the reasons why he wrote The Art of the Comeback. I'm not making it up. The New York Times, which has broken the law to publish three pages of his 1995 tax return, back in '95 called Trump "the comeback kid."

Let me read you a portion of the New York Times article from 1995. Quote, "After the collapse of the real estate market of the 1980's, Mr. Trump's company was left holding some $8.8 billion in debt, causing his personal net worth to drop to a low of about $1 billion in the red by 1991." This is the famous tax change in 1986 that took away all deductions, took the top marginal rate essentially from 70% down to 28. And, if you remember, a lot of real estate people got hammered in that, the condo market especially. Rental real estate was just devastated by it. Many, not all. And apparently Trump was one.

"After the collapse of the real estate market of the 1980's, Mr. Trump's company was left holding some $8.8 billion in debt, causing his personal net worth to drop to a low of about $1 billion in the red by 1991." One billion in the red by 1991, and he has recovered to be what he is now. That's a pretty significant comeback, and the Times was writing about it in 1995.

By the way, I remember all of that. Do you know one of the ways in which Trump was claimed to be a genius back then? It's not just the way he negotiated with the banks. Trump had -- I don't even know quite what the terminology is here, so forgive me if I state this in less than precise terms. But what Trump had done was arrange his loans from banks so that if they foreclosed on him, they would go down, too.

Trump was the original too big to fail, in other words. And if they called his loans or if they foreclosed and took everything he had, which was then worthless because of the bubble and the financial real estate crisis, the banks would have gone with him. And so that actually led to the banks and another round of debt or underwriting, and Trump came back. So he was the original too big to fail.

Now, that phrase holds negative connotations today in terms of bailout of banks. Trump was not bailed out the by the government. Trump wasn't bailed out like banks in 2008 were. Trump had arranged his finances with the banks so they couldn't close him out without closing themselves down. There was a lot of criticism of Trump for that back then. I remember a lot of people were seething. They were jealous that he had been able to pull that off and tie his fortunes so exclusively to the people who had lent him money.

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Re: Rush: Trump: The Original Too Big to Fail
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2016, 07:06:20 pm »
Rush thinks he's making a brilliant case for Trump.
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Re: Rush: Trump: The Original Too Big to Fail
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2016, 07:07:30 pm »
So Rush opposes Trump now or is he supporting the Too Big to Fail cronyism concept?

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Re: Rush: Trump: The Original Too Big to Fail
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2016, 07:09:27 pm »
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/10/03/trump_the_original_too_big_to_fail


Trump: The Original Too Big to Fail
October 03, 2016
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BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I need to add one thing, even though it isn't gonna matter to anybody, but I have to let you know anyway. Back in 1995 the New York Times called Donald Trump "the comeback kid," and it's one of the reasons why he wrote The Art of the Comeback. I'm not making it up. The New York Times, which has broken the law to publish three pages of his 1995 tax return, back in '95 called Trump "the comeback kid."

Let me read you a portion of the New York Times article from 1995. Quote, "After the collapse of the real estate market of the 1980's, Mr. Trump's company was left holding some $8.8 billion in debt, causing his personal net worth to drop to a low of about $1 billion in the red by 1991." This is the famous tax change in 1986 that took away all deductions, took the top marginal rate essentially from 70% down to 28. And, if you remember, a lot of real estate people got hammered in that, the condo market especially. Rental real estate was just devastated by it. Many, not all. And apparently Trump was one.

"After the collapse of the real estate market of the 1980's, Mr. Trump's company was left holding some $8.8 billion in debt, causing his personal net worth to drop to a low of about $1 billion in the red by 1991." One billion in the red by 1991, and he has recovered to be what he is now. That's a pretty significant comeback, and the Times was writing about it in 1995.

By the way, I remember all of that. Do you know one of the ways in which Trump was claimed to be a genius back then? It's not just the way he negotiated with the banks. Trump had -- I don't even know quite what the terminology is here, so forgive me if I state this in less than precise terms. But what Trump had done was arrange his loans from banks so that if they foreclosed on him, they would go down, too.

Trump was the original too big to fail, in other words. And if they called his loans or if they foreclosed and took everything he had, which was then worthless because of the bubble and the financial real estate crisis, the banks would have gone with him. And so that actually led to the banks and another round of debt or underwriting, and Trump came back. So he was the original too big to fail.

Now, that phrase holds negative connotations today in terms of bailout of banks. Trump was not bailed out the by the government. Trump wasn't bailed out like banks in 2008 were. Trump had arranged his finances with the banks so they couldn't close him out without closing themselves down. There was a lot of criticism of Trump for that back then. I remember a lot of people were seething. They were jealous that he had been able to pull that off and tie his fortunes so exclusively to the people who had lent him money.

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Um.....much like Trump prefers the soldiers that "didn't" get caught....

I prefer the businessmen that "didn't" need bailouts.

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Re: Rush: Trump: The Original Too Big to Fail
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2016, 07:16:52 pm »
Um.....much like Trump prefers the soldiers that "didn't" get caught....

I prefer the businessmen that "didn't" need bailouts.


Rush doesn't know it, but he is about to lose me as a loyal listener.  I already quit Sean Hannity cold turkey.

That is just rich! Wish I'd thought of it. Let's make some bumper stickers.  888high58888

I've already dropped Rush. Over a quarter of a century with him and now I'm done. He's getting to sound more whiny than manly these days. It's a tragic thing to watch what supporting Trump can do to a person's image.


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Re: Rush: Trump: The Original Too Big to Fail
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2016, 07:17:49 pm »
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Trump was not bailed out the by the government.

Actually Rush, I hate to say it, but you are wrong on this. He was bailed out by both the government and Wall Street in this particular case.

The banks renegotiated his debt (and seized a lot of his property including Trump Air and even his own personal jet).
The government had to cover $1.3 Billion in bond guarantee losses for his casinos.

This wasn't his only bailout. He ran his businesses like a guy running up credit cards, then using other credit cards to pay the minimum payments on the cards he ran up, and continued that process over and over until he could get no more credit cards.

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Re: Rush: Trump: The Original Too Big to Fail
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2016, 07:19:15 pm »
Rush = FAIL