Shootings erupt in downtown Minneapolis, 6 hit

[rangerrebew]

Shootings erupt in downtown Minneapolis, 6 hit
Police describing violence as gang-related
Published: 2 hours ago
 

Shootings erupted overnight in downtown Minneapolis, Minnesota, leaving six injured, according to police reports early Monday.

Spokeswoman Sgt. Catherine Michal said in a report in the Star-Tribune that investigators believe they were gang-related.

The shootings started about 1:15 a.m. not far from the city’s First Precinct police headquarters where officers found a man who had been shot in the hand and leg.

He was hospitalized.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/shootings-erupt-in-downtown-minneapolis-6-hit/#8vLrJ7Dotb8ol0C0.99

[Applewood]

Downtown in a major city is not a good place to be, even during the day.  I live outside of Pittsburgh.  Shootings are a common occurrence.  Gangstas aren't satisfied with wrecking the ghettos they've made in their neighborhoods.  They have to come downtown and mess that up too.

[Wingnut]

Somali Muslim?  The Twin cities is full as a tick with them.

[dfwgator]

Welcome to Obama's America.

Soon to be Hillary's America.

[dfwgator]

Or Trump's.  In any case, a long way from Reagan's America, or even W's.

The difference is, Hillary encourages it.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Democrats killing Democrats.

[uglybiker]

Spokeswoman Sgt. Catherine Michal said in a report in the Star-Tribune that investigators believe they were gang-related.

Obviously the result of frustration over white privilege brought on by global warming.

[mountaineer]

I live outside of Pittsburgh. 

Hey, me too!

Shootings are a common occurrence. 

That's the sad truth.

[DCPatriot]

Downtown in a major city is not a good place to be, even during the day.  I live outside of Pittsburgh.  Shootings are a common occurrence.  Gangstas aren't satisfied with wrecking the ghettos they've made in their neighborhoods.  They have to come downtown and mess that up too.

I travel into inner-city Baltimore maybe a couple of times each week to do Interior BPO (Broker Price Opinion) photos for Fannie Mae and 3rd party companies affiliated with mortgage lenders.

Interior BPOs require a photo from the doorway of every room and another toward that doorway.  I go into 100 year old rowhouse basements that have no electrical power, etc..

It's gotten to the point that 10% of the time, I only take the street sign photo...a neighborhood street view and hopefully a frontal photo of the the subject property....because the neighborhood(s) are crawling with feral people doing nothing but loitering around the front stoops of the endless row houses, etc..

Luckily, a neighbor warned me recently about a boarded up property that had been taken over as a crack house and shelter for homeless drug addicts....

Ain't worth dying for a set of photos.

I do reward myself with a stop at the Lexington Market for a dozen raw clams on the half-shell at Fraidley's SeaFood's stall.

[Applewood]

@mountaineer

The sad part is that Pittsburgh is trying to develop a residential population.  A number of old buildings have been converted to apartments and condos.  But with all the recent crime, a number of people who have already moved downtown are reconsidering their decision.  If these people move out and their apartments/condos can't be rented or sold, the socio-economic impact on downtown will be devastating.

I used to work downtown and often stayed after work to shop, have dinner or go to the theater.  Today you can't pay me enough to go downtown.

[SZonian]

@mountaineer

The sad part is that Pittsburgh is trying to develop a residential population.  A number of old buildings have been converted to apartments and condos.  But with all the recent crime, a number of people who have already moved downtown are reconsidering their decision.  If these people move out as nd their apartments/condos can't be rented or sold, the socio-economic impact on downtown will be devastating.

I used to work downtown and often stayed after workbl to shop, have dinner or go to the theater.  Today you can't pay me enough to go downtown.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy brought on by liberal policies.  They won't take the necessary/required steps to reign in crime by making legitimate efforts at enforcing the laws.  They want "content" criminals and naïve targets, err, residents.

They expect decent, hardworking, tax paying citizens to make themselves targets for thugs, thieves and rapists.  It's "white privilege" doncha know?

[Applewood]

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy brought on by liberal policies.  They won't take the necessary/required steps to reign in crime by making legitimate efforts at enforcing the laws.  They want "content" criminals and naïve targets, err, residents.

They expect decent, hardworking, tax paying citizens to make themselves targets for thugs, thieves and rapists.  It's "white privilege" doncha know?

Pittsburgh hired a new police chief not long ago.  Since he came on board, he's been busy speaking at the DNC and pressing the flesh at so-called community outreach events to actually fight crime.

[mountaineer]

Pittsburgh hired a new police chief not long ago.  Since he came on board, he's been busy speaking at the DNC and pressing the flesh at so-called community outreach events to actually fight crime.

You have to admit just about anyone would have been an improvement over the corrupt now-departed Harper!
But I agree with you - a city cannot market downtown living as the trendy, hip thing to do unless it at the same time deals purposefully with crime. I hope the police chief isn't too handicapped by the mayor (who doesn't strike me as the brightest bulb).

[Cripplecreek]

Actually "downtown" violence is a relatively rare occurrence from say 7 AM to 7 PM.

Downtown is where the big money is and the "important" people work. There is lots of private security and lots of incentive for the city to want a safe environment there.

Downtown Detroit is as safe as my little town during the working hours as long as you stay out of the alleys but if you go at night, armed defense is legal and encouraged in Detroit.

[Applewood]

You have to admit just about anyone would have been an improvement over the corrupt now-departed Harper!
But I agree with you - a city cannot market downtown living as the trendy, hip thing to do unless it at the same time deals purposefully with crime. I hope the police chief isn't too handicapped by the mayor (who doesn't strike me as the brightest bulb).

Yeah.  Harper was as corrupt and dumb as they come.  But the present chief, McLay, is just not doing the job.  Even those who serve under him recently gave him a vote of no confidence.  The vote doesn't mean anything and from what I hear, the vote was generated by the police union and involved employment matters such as mandatory overtime, not how the Chief combatted crime. 

And I believe you are correct about the mayor's influence.  This mayor comes from the Governor Moonbeam School of Governance.   More important to get along with everyone.  I'm old enough to remember the bad old days when a miscreant was beaten before he was tossed head first into the squad car and hauled off to the clink.  Today criminals have to be treated with kid gloves because we don't want to upset a certain race, ethnicity, gender or lifeatyle.

[Applewood]

Actually "downtown" violence is a relatively rare occurrence from say 7 AM to 7 PM.

Downtown is where the big money is and the "important" people work. There is lots of private security and lots of incentive for the city to want a safe environment there.

Downtown Detroit is as safe as my little town during the working hours as long as you stay out of the alleys but if you go at night, armed defense is legal and encouraged in Detroit.

That may be true in some cities, but violent crime is moving into downtown even in broad daylight.  Sure, there has always been petty crime, such as purse snatching or pickpocketing.  But what I'm talking about is punks shooting at each other with no regard as to who gets caught in the crossfire. 

[Cripplecreek]

That may be true in some cities, but violent crime is moving into downtown even in broad daylight.  Sure, there has always been petty crime, such as purse snatching or pickpocketing.  But what I'm talking about is punks shooting at each other with no regard as to who gets caught in the crossfire.

Walking the last few blocks into Comerica park you won't see a panhandler or hooker in sight. On the way out after the game, you gotta run the gauntlet.

[goatprairie]

Not enough difference for me to lift a finger to help elect Mr. Vindictive Nutcase.

For one thing, I think Trump would pander to the thug community just like a regular Dem lib. For another thing, this is supposed to be a city and state matter and no business of the fed. gov. Of course, laws and the constitution mean nothing to King Barack.
But unless Trump  (if he gets elected...questionable) can invoke some sort of civil rights case, he can do next to nothing about the crime problem afflicting many American cities.
The problem with Minneapolis is that is a run and populated by bleeding heart libs. The gov. is ultra liberal Mark Dayton and the mayor of Minneapolis is another "what can we do?...let's have some dialogue with the thugs" type of mayor.
The wife and I have gone to some old fogey rock concerts in recent years in Minneapolis close to where much of the violence takes place. We don't linger on the streets after the concerts....we get to our hotel as fast as possible. And I keep my eyes peeled.

[Wingnut]

MPLS used to be a nice place to live back when Mary Tyler Moore was at WJM-TV.

[goatprairie]

@mountaineer

The sad part is that Pittsburgh is trying to develop a residential population.  A number of old buildings have been converted to apartments and condos.  But with all the recent crime, a number of people who have already moved downtown are reconsidering their decision.  If these people move out and their apartments/condos can't be rented or sold, the socio-economic impact on downtown will be devastating.

I used to work downtown and often stayed after work to shop, have dinner or go to the theater.  Today you can't pay me enough to go downtown.

I thought Pittsburgh was supposed to be one of the safer major cities in America? What happened? Or was it always like you portray it since you've lived there?

[Applewood]

I thought Pittsburgh was supposed to be one of the safer major cities in America? What happened? Or was it always like you portray it since you've lived there?

There have been a lot of changes.  Years ago, downtown was the headquarters for major employers like US Steel, it had five major department stores, plus a host of smaller retail shops, great restaurants and several movie theaters.  Then the town went seedy.  Fifth Avenue, the major retail corridor, became a haven for fly by night operations and check cashing/payday loan stores.  These attract the ghetto dwellers.  The department stores are gone.  The movie theaters are gone.  Most major employers are gone or downsized. 

Some years ago, the city started making some revitalization efforts.  There is now a theater district for plays, the symphony, opera and so on.  New upscale restaurants have been added.  On Fifth Avenue, many of the seedy buildings (and their dubious retail tenants) are being replaced by new skyscrapers.  And as I said earlier, a number of old buildings have been renovated into apartments and condos.

The city is trying to rebuild, but if it can't solve its violent crime problem, it will all be for naught. 

[mountaineer]

I thought Pittsburgh was supposed to be one of the safer major cities in America? What happened? Or was it always like you portray it since you've lived there?

Pittsburgh is my hometown. I now live about 45 miles away in a neighboring state. As Applewood said, the downtown area used to be vibrant and bustling - and safe. My mother took us kids downtown every Saturday. While we had piano lessons in our teacher's 5th Ave. studio, she'd shop. Then we'd go to Candyrama for some treats and the Joseph Horne department store for some deli meats before heading back to the suburbs. When we were older, we took the streetcar by ourselves (children, unaccompanied by an adult!!).  Now if you drive downtown, you'll see urban yoots just hanging out, especially near bus stops and T-stations, doing nothing but looking for someone to accost. When Mr. M and I attend a concert in the theater district, you can bet we're constantly on the lookout for trouble.

[NavyCanDo]

The list of Gangs in the Minneapolis area is long and the gang related drug trafficking an out of control mess. As it is in my area of King County WA outside of Seattle proper. 

If I were to list all the gangs both big and small, black, Hispanic, Korean & mixed race it would number somewhere close to 40 the last I saw it, all within 10 miles. And multiple shooting just like this story happen once or twice a year it seems.    And why I avoid as much as I can places where they hang out, like the Malls, parks, some theaters, bowling alleys, Video arcades, etc.

[Free Vulcan]

Yay, my sister lives there.

[TomSea]

Crime Rankings Per City:

http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime3.aspx (best to worse on this scale or least to most, there are many different tables, related to size and so on).

It's all relative, I know Southern California for example, has bad crime areas but they also have some communities with the least crime in the US.

Some places have bad property crime, some have a high murder rate and so on.

It's puzzling, Colorado Springs scores some on the crime scale; but I have heard that before.