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Offline Applewood

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2016, 08:18:52 pm »
There are only two possible outcomes to this election...Trump or Clinton.

Trump beats Clinton on the question of honesty by a wide margin because the accusations in 40 year old lawsuits are inconsequential compared to the blatant lies told to the family members of the brave souls who died trying to save Ambassador Stevens and the perjury under oath in testimony about handling classified data to Congress and the FBI.

I'm well aware of Hillary's lies, cheating, treason and, according to a number of conspiracy theories, possible complicity in murder.  Yes they are heinous, and given her stints as senator and Secretary of State, she has proven that she is incompetent and not suitable to be President.

However, you have a lot of confidence in Trump's integrity as president despite numerous instances of his lies and fraud in his past.    I guess that's where we part ways.  Those past instances of his lack of  integrity and honesty mean I cannot trust that as president, Trump will suddenly become George Washington or Abe Lincoln and become this honest, forthright statesman.  It takes a very special person to repent the  past, ask for forgiveness and work hard to become a better person.  Trump doesn't have any of that in him.

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #51 on: September 28, 2016, 09:01:17 pm »
There are only two possible outcomes to this election...Trump or Clinton.

Trump beats Clinton on the question of honesty by a wide margin because the accusations in 40 year old lawsuits are inconsequential compared to the blatant lies told to the family members of the brave souls who died trying to save Ambassador Stevens and the perjury under oath in testimony about handling classified data to Congress and the FBI.
There you go again.  Forty year old lawsuits? Trump is one of the most incontinent prevaricators in American politics, a considerable achievement considering he's only been (officially) a politician for about a year. Follow that trail back through his business life, just judging by the lawsuits, and you see a syndrome of chronic prevarication, not just a distant event.
So they are both liars. But one of them will piss off foreign heads of state (friend and foe) without even having to put forth effort. People who run their own nations don't tolerate buffoons well. Treat them like Trump treats 'little people' and they will tell you in no uncertain terms what highly improbable acts to engage in with yourself. That could have serious implications, both foreign and domestic.
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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #52 on: September 28, 2016, 09:18:15 pm »
He isn't running for president, now. I couldn't vote for him if I want to.

Amazing.....how the flip-floppy Trump camp has changed their tune about Cruz now....lol.   Suddenly, Cruz is a ""prize"" that we don't deserve.  You just can't make this $hit up....it's too surreal.
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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #53 on: September 28, 2016, 09:29:25 pm »
The breakdown in the Middle East matters, unfettered immigration matters, tax reform and economic growth matters, Scalia's replacement matters.


and Trump is no good on any of those issues. He is not trustworthy.

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #54 on: September 28, 2016, 09:31:30 pm »
  Those past instances of his lack of  integrity and honesty mean I cannot trust that as president,

They are not instances, they are his constant lifestyle

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #55 on: September 28, 2016, 09:38:39 pm »
@Smokin Joe so you prefer Clinton becomes President then...I get it.

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2016, 09:49:22 pm »
@XenaLee No greater than your isolated #nevertrumps 'hero to zero' reaction to Cruz's support for Trump.


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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #57 on: September 28, 2016, 10:43:33 pm »
@Smokin Joe so you prefer Clinton becomes President then...I get it.

No, you don't get it.

You don't get it at all.

The people that you constantly harass for exercising their God-given right to decide how to cast their vote on any given election don't want either Hillary or Trump, so we choose "neither" leaving the rest of the people who created this absurd set of circumstances to pick which evil they best like for the country.

You mistakenly present this as a binary choice, when it isn't, there is always a third choice. I chose no evil over the lesser of the two standing before me.

To me, the most amazing thing is how many Trump supporters buy into this "binary choice" false argument. It's actually rather easy to see through it if one gives it any measure of serious thought, or approaches the question from a logical, intelligent point of view.

And to those reading this, I ask that you not misconstrue my post to make it appear as if I am alluding to a lack of intelligence or education among Trump supporters.

That's simply wrong.

I am not.

P.S. For Trump supporters, to misconstrue means to interpret something incorrectly and to allude means to refer or suggest to something indirectly.

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #58 on: September 28, 2016, 11:54:10 pm »
You mistakenly present this as a binary choice,

Wrong Luis, I correctly presented the election as a binary outcome.

Either Trump or Clinton will become President. (A or B)

#nevertrump is an expression of a preference for Clinton. (not A = B)

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2016, 12:20:24 am »
Clinton or Trump...pick one.

As I said, you keep trying to make this a binary choice.
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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #60 on: September 29, 2016, 12:22:33 am »
Here's an pertinent idea, why don't you squishes focus on current events and the binary choice the nation is facing?

Trump or Clinton...pick one

It isn't a binary choice, no matter what you keep saying.
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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #61 on: September 29, 2016, 12:26:21 am »
Wrong Luis, I correctly presented the election as a binary outcome.

Either Trump or Clinton will become President. (A or B)

#nevertrump is an expression of a preference for Clinton. (not A = B)

I don't have to justify my choices to you.

I choose neither.
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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #62 on: September 29, 2016, 12:27:18 am »
Thomas Sowell...'I'm voting against Clinton'.

He gets it.

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #63 on: September 29, 2016, 12:33:30 am »
Thomas Sowell...'I'm voting against Clinton'.

He gets it.

I'm voting against Clinton AND Trump.

Get it?
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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #64 on: September 29, 2016, 12:35:01 am »
Thomas Sowell...'I'm voting against Clinton'.

He gets it.

Dr. Sowell has the right to his choice.  But so do I.  I choose neither.

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #65 on: September 29, 2016, 12:40:13 am »
Thomas Sowell...'I'm voting against Clinton'.

He gets it.
I read a lot of these threads and try to keep my trap shut. (doesn't always work.) and i'm more never cankles than pro trump. But I'm seeing some of these never trump people are going to pull the lever for hillary and not just not vote.they should just move on to D.U .

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #66 on: September 29, 2016, 12:58:15 am »
I read a lot of these threads and try to keep my trap shut. (doesn't always work.) and i'm more never cankles than pro trump. But I'm seeing some of these never trump people are going to pull the lever for hillary and not just not vote.they should just move on to D.U .

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #67 on: September 29, 2016, 01:06:39 am »
I read a lot of these threads and try to keep my trap shut. (doesn't always work.) and i'm more never cankles than pro trump. But I'm seeing some of these never trump people are going to pull the lever for hillary and not just not vote.they should just move on to D.U .

lol.

I'm not voting for either. I doubt anyone on this site is actually voting for Hillary

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #68 on: September 29, 2016, 02:29:22 am »
@Smokin Joe so you prefer Clinton becomes President then...I get it.
Oh horseshit, short mud. You ought to know better by now.

I don't want either one of them.
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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #69 on: September 29, 2016, 02:44:21 am »
I read a lot of these threads and try to keep my trap shut. (doesn't always work.) and i'm more never cankles than pro trump. But I'm seeing some of these never trump people are going to pull the lever for hillary and not just not vote.they should just move on to D.U .

Anyone who spends their waking hours attacking Trump and then sweetly claims they're voting their conscience is voting against Trump.

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #70 on: September 29, 2016, 02:48:44 am »
Anyone who spends their waking hours attacking Trump and then sweetly claims they're voting their conscience is voting against Trump.

Damn right I'm voting against Trump.

Damn right I'm voting against Hillary.

BOTH of them deserve constant attacks on their foolish, dangerous, incoherent, blathering, waffling, Statist ideals and Big Government plans.

I plan to do so vociferously and without relent.
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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #71 on: September 29, 2016, 02:49:29 am »

Anyone who spends their waking hours attacking Trump and then sweetly claims they're voting their conscience is voting against Trump.

    That's Brilliant @Longmire, when did you discover that sweet morsel?

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #72 on: September 29, 2016, 02:50:55 am »
Anyone who spends their waking hours attacking Trump and then sweetly claims they're voting their conscience is voting against Trump.

If you ever post something coherent, please ping me or I'll never believe it happened.

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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #73 on: September 29, 2016, 03:01:24 am »
Anyone who spends their waking hours attacking Trump and then sweetly claims they're voting their conscience is voting against Trump.

Yes, I'm voting against Trump... and Hillary.

But I won't be so sweet about it, if that would help.
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Re: Last Night, Donald Trump Showed Why He’s Dangerous
« Reply #74 on: September 29, 2016, 03:03:46 am »
I am voting against both Trump & Hillary on moral grounds.