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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1325 on: October 06, 2016, 01:39:08 pm »

But, I'm a full throated Trump supporter here. I was attacked and insulted from the minute I gave my opinion. My conservative credentials, intelligence, morality, sanity was attacked and impugned by these NeverTrump–Ted Cruz cultists and diehards.

You hope to reconcile this rift? I'm not so optimistic. You have this idea that you can "gently" nurture these poor emotionally wounded souls back to seeing the big picture? Me, I am not so inclined. I plan to continue giving as bad as I got from the free republic refuse, that overnight flooded this neighborhood, flinging their dirt at anything or anyone Trump.

To you, I say peace, Major – and good luck. You'll need it.

I'm obviously one of those "Free Republic refuse" you speak of. You have done exactly what you accuse us of: questioning intelligence, conservative credentials, et al.

That stuff won't fly with me: I have a bachelors and masters, 8+ years as a combat arms officer, 30+ years of financial and accounting experience.

At the risk of repeating myself, I successfully argued, in German, with my German neighbors that Reagan would be a far better choice than Carter. I did my job so well in the months leading to Reagan's win in 1980, that after the hostages were released, I was invited to sit at the stammtisch of the local gasthaus, a table reserved for family and their closest friends. You talk to anyone who has lived in Germany, and you'll be hard pressed to find a similar situation, where an American received such an honor.

I also converted my in-laws, a large Hispanic family, from Democrat to Republican, though it took several years.

As a former military officer, it is my firm opinion that Trump cannot be allowed to be our Commander in Chief. Others may disagree, and I respect their opinion. My vote is mine alone, and it will no longer be cast on who is the "lesser of two evils."

I've been dealing with people like you for nearly 45 years. I was mocked and ridiculed my last two months in high school, for the temerity of accepting a 4 year ROTC scholarship. It wasn't just students, a teacher I respected told me to my face how "disappointed" he was with me. The only teacher who publicly supported my decision was my calculus teacher, a former Jesuit priest from Marquette. He was thrilled that I chose to matriculate at Gonzaga.

BTW, it's the same high school that Rachel Maddow graduated from. I shook the dust off my feet, never to return. I took the schollie to Gonzaga University, the value of which in today's dollars is nearly $200,000.

Sorry, align, but the joke's on all of us if the next President is Trump or Hillary. Your bloviating and insults are insufficient to change my mind.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1326 on: October 06, 2016, 01:43:16 pm »
I was thinking of getting one!    Do you like it so far?  As  for colored pencils; what brand do you prefer??

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1327 on: October 06, 2016, 01:44:43 pm »

Projection.  You've flung more insults, slander and ridicule than a stick can be shaken at.

Oh, and if your widdle feewings is hurt,  this is for your self-deluded suffering:



You made us the enemy from the very beginning.  We're now simply living up to your charge because you made it pointless to argue otherwise.

The relationship between Trump and Cruz pretty much reflects the relationship between their supporters - everything was great until Cruz beat Trump in Iowa. Then Cruz became evil incarnate and his supporters said 'amen'.

They set the tone in this contest.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1328 on: October 06, 2016, 01:54:53 pm »
The relationship between Trump and Cruz pretty much reflects the relationship between their supporters - everything was great until Cruz beat Trump in Iowa. Then Cruz became evil incarnate and his supporters said 'amen'.

They set the tone in this contest.

I love my swear word coloring book. And I can name that tone in three letters:

ASS

That's right people. ... red ass...
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1329 on: October 06, 2016, 02:00:07 pm »
The relationship between Trump and Cruz pretty much reflects the relationship between their supporters - everything was great until Cruz beat Trump in Iowa. Then Cruz became evil incarnate and his supporters said 'amen'.

They set the tone in this contest.
I think Trump thought he had Iowa in the bag after he came out (sucking up to Gov. Branstad and his ethanol lobbyist son) all fired up for ethanol mandates. Branstad had said Cruz (who supported eliminating the mandate) 'had to be defeated, whatever it takes.'

Cruz took his case to the farmers for letting the market decide and it worked, he won support.
Trump started the smear campaign the same night.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1330 on: October 06, 2016, 02:15:18 pm »
I think Trump thought he had Iowa in the bag after he came out (sucking up to Gov. Branstad and his ethanol lobbyist son) all fired up for ethanol mandates. Branstad had said Cruz (who supported eliminating the mandate) 'had to be defeated, whatever it takes.'

Cruz took his case to the farmers for letting the market decide and it worked, he won support.
Trump started the smear campaign the same night.

That's the way I see it as well.  Trump couldn't stand seeing his "winner" brand tarnished by a loss in the first primary, and he reacted in a way which is now all too familiar : "it's rigged!", "he's a liar!", "he cheated!", destroying any hope for a unified party at this point.  His supporters don't seem to understand that Trump attacked our values when he resorted to these tactics, and we're not behind him now because he does not represent us, regardless of how bad Hillary is.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1331 on: October 06, 2016, 02:30:26 pm »
I think Trump thought he had Iowa in the bag after he came out (sucking up to Gov. Branstad and his ethanol lobbyist son) all fired up for ethanol mandates. Branstad had said Cruz (who supported eliminating the mandate) 'had to be defeated, whatever it takes.'

Cruz took his case to the farmers for letting the market decide and it worked, he won support.
Trump started the smear campaign the same night.

Man, I wish I had the verbal voluble veracity of you guys. I can't come up with lofty literary luminesences like smear campaign. Three letters is all I could think of.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1332 on: October 06, 2016, 02:33:04 pm »
Man, I wish I had the verbal voluble veracity of you guys. I can't come up with lofty literary luminesences like smear campaign. Three letters is all I could think of.

You're in good company:

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1333 on: October 06, 2016, 02:37:14 pm »
I've been dealing with people like you for nearly 45 years.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1334 on: October 06, 2016, 02:42:44 pm »

But, I'm a full throated Trump supporter here. I was attacked and insulted from the minute I gave my opinion. My conservative credentials, intelligence, morality, sanity was attacked and impugned by these NeverTrump–Ted Cruz cultists and diehards.


That is not entirely true A/C and you know it.  You've been on this board longer than I, but I've been here awhile and long before the refugees came over from the other site.  There was a time when I actually was in favor of Trump and gave him the benefit of the doubt.  I don't remember anyone in this forum attacking anyone for their opinion of Trump; at the time we in here pretty much balked at anyone dumping on anyone else and for the most part we may have disagreed but never attacked.  We may have attacked other candidates but I don't recall attacking each other.  As I recall, you left for quite some time and came back around the same time that many refugees from another forum joined in. With no disrespect intended, your attitude changed towards others with obvious insults when you became a full-blown Trump supporter.

As I recall the first attacks came upon those who were Cruz supporters and those attacks were more relentless in number and content than anything that was dished out towards Trump supporters around the time when Trump started going ballistic on Cruz about the birther issue and then cheating, the delegate issue and on and on and really the Cruz bashing/accusations from Trump supporters has never stopped.

I refuse to vote for someone whom I feel will continue us down the destructive path that we are on.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1335 on: October 06, 2016, 03:50:33 pm »
That is not entirely true A/C and you know it.  You've been on this board longer than I, but I've been here awhile and long before the refugees came over from the other site.  There was a time when I actually was in favor of Trump and gave him the benefit of the doubt.  I don't remember anyone in this forum attacking anyone for their opinion of Trump; at the time we in here pretty much balked at anyone dumping on anyone else and for the most part we may have disagreed but never attacked.  We may have attacked other candidates but I don't recall attacking each other.  As I recall, you left for quite some time and came back around the same time that many refugees from another forum joined in. With no disrespect intended, your attitude changed towards others with obvious insults when you became a full-blown Trump supporter.

As I recall the first attacks came upon those who were Cruz supporters and those attacks were more relentless in number and content than anything that was dished out towards Trump supporters around the time when Trump started going ballistic on Cruz about the birther issue and then cheating, the delegate issue and on and on and really the Cruz bashing/accusations from Trump supporters has never stopped.

I refuse to vote for someone whom I feel will continue us down the destructive path that we are on.

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This is absolutely true, liberty.   I remember clearly one time when I said that Trump's rhetoric was attracting racists.  It was an attack on Trump.  And two TBR members (this one included) starting whining that I was calling them racist.

It was patently false, as I didn't think for one moment that either of them was.

But that's the way some of them were (and still are).  If you attack Trump, they fall wounded to the ground claiming you attacked them.  If you said "SOME" Trump supporters, then several of them whined and griped that you were attacking them personally, when you weren't.

AC is remembering wrongly and making accusations of others that are absolutely false.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1336 on: October 06, 2016, 04:03:46 pm »
You hope to reconcile this rift? I'm not so optimistic. You have this idea that you can "gently" nurture these poor emotionally wounded souls back to seeing the big picture? Me, I am not so inclined. I plan to continue giving as bad as I got from the free republic refuse, that overnight flooded this neighborhood, flinging their dirt at anything or anyone Trump.

I don't have a comment, I just wanted to make sure nobody missed what @aligncare thinks about a large number of the Members of TBR.  I had missed it until somebody else noticed, I'm so used to the troll behavior being exhibited.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1337 on: October 06, 2016, 04:08:00 pm »
I love my swear word coloring book. And I can name that tone in three letters:

ASS

That's right people. ... red ass...

Lol ... looks like that's going to be my next coloring book purchase!! 
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1338 on: October 06, 2016, 04:11:50 pm »
I don't have a comment, I just wanted to make sure nobody missed what @aligncare thinks about a large number of the Members of TBR.  I had missed it until somebody else noticed, I'm so used to the troll behavior being exhibited.

Oh he also pulled the race card on me the other day. @aligncare is just frustrated that once all us exFreepers came over, he suddenly had a lot more people ready to call liberals like himself on their idiocy. IIRC I wasn't here 2 days before he made it known what scum he thinks we are.

S'OK. Feeling is mutual.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1339 on: October 06, 2016, 04:12:55 pm »
I don't have a comment, I just wanted to make sure nobody missed what @aligncare thinks about a large number of the Members of TBR.  I had missed it until somebody else noticed, I'm so used to the troll behavior being exhibited.

And I wonder why he doesn't think reconciliation is possible......   **nononono*

He hates our guts.  He wouldn't reconcile with those of us he considers to be GARBAGE if his very life depended on it.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1340 on: October 06, 2016, 04:13:30 pm »
I don't have a comment, I just wanted to make sure nobody missed what @aligncare thinks about a large number of the Members of TBR.  I had missed it until somebody else noticed, I'm so used to the troll behavior being exhibited.

It's the 'nth' of hypocrisy ....coming from one who does nothing BUT bitch, moan, whine and fling  THEIR ""dirt"" (yeah, let's call it that....for now)....around at those who do not agree with him on Trump.  Insulting the #neverTrump folks (refuse???) has become a full-time hobby for the Trump camp followers here.  But you know how the left is....they can't and won't tolerate ANY dissent (Trumpocrats).
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1341 on: October 06, 2016, 04:15:29 pm »
And I wonder why he doesn't think reconciliation is possible......   **nononono*

He hates our guts. He wouldn't reconcile with those of us he considers to be GARBAGE if his very life depended on it.
 

Yet more irony....considering how much the Trump camp loves to accuse others of "hating".

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1342 on: October 06, 2016, 04:25:22 pm »
I love my swear word coloring book. And I can name that tone in three letters:

ASS

That's right people. ... red ass...
Red ass. Red ass.


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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1343 on: October 06, 2016, 04:27:50 pm »
Impressive scarecrow...

Yeah, not bad for "Free Republic Refuse"...  :tongue2:

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1344 on: October 06, 2016, 04:45:37 pm »
Message for all haters of guts:  Trolling is even worse than personal insults, and will be dealt with harshly.  Now stay on subject!  This thread is the proper place to have this particular war, so it's bound to get a bit ugly, but keep it professional and above board.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1345 on: October 06, 2016, 05:10:43 pm »
LOL.  I like how you worded that.

You know, sometimes a person gets so angry that he just makes a fool of himself.  No one could discredit him better than his own typing fingers.  So whatever.  Like-mined people will cheer but everyone else will see it for what it is.

Yeah, that's why I reposted what he said in huge freaking letters.  The Mods are apparently a little more PO'ed about it than I am...
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1346 on: October 06, 2016, 05:11:17 pm »
Message for all haters of guts:  Trolling is even worse than personal insults, and will be dealt with harshly.  Now stay on subject!  This thread is the proper place to have this particular war, so it's bound to get a bit ugly, but keep it professional and above board.

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I dunno...IMO, trolling is not near as damaging to my psyche as being called "Free Republic Refuse"...

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j/k...carry on

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1347 on: October 06, 2016, 05:13:21 pm »
I dunno...IMO, trolling is not near as damaging to my psyche as being called "Free Republic Refuse"...

 0005

j/k...carry on

Pales to the repeated accusations of being Hillary supporters. Besides, we can't be refuse. When we got there it wasnt the DUmp.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1348 on: October 06, 2016, 05:21:57 pm »
@Night Hides Not
@Norm Lenhart

Don't give it another thought.  It is not true and not worth our time.  The point of posts like that is to wound you and to make you angry.  Never give him that satisfaction.  Just let it stand as a witness against himself.

The joke is on him. I want people to see him and those like him make fools of themselves. If he and the other Gang of 5ish are going to be allowed to do it as often as they have, then I hope he does it more for the exact reason you mention. Let the world see it.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1349 on: October 06, 2016, 05:39:20 pm »
I don't have a comment, I just wanted to make sure nobody missed what @aligncare thinks about a large number of the Members of TBR.  I had missed it until somebody else noticed, I'm so used to the troll behavior being exhibited.

If he was cogent at the moment, which he decidedly is not,  He would realize that almost every member here fit's into that category including himself!

I personally could care less what he thinks about anything anymore as he, and a few others here, have had their masks ripped off by this election and we now know that, despite their continued claims to the contrary, they are NOT conservatives and never really were!


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