Cruz: I'm voting for Trump

[GrouchoTex]

Trump & Hillary are on the same side.

I think Carly Fiorina said it best, when she said they were two sides of the same coin.

The real argument for most voters now is to figure out which side of that coin is more tarnished than the other and vote against the other side of that coin.
Hardly, a ringing endorsement of either candidate.
Of course, the will be a segment of voters that will vote for a 3rd party candidate and others who will refuse to vote at all.

We've come to this, sadly.

As for myself, I still, at this late date, do not know what I will do, except not vote for Hillary.

As for others who continue to accuse us of helping Hillary, it was not a Hillary supporter or a #NeverTrump person, who tweeted at 3 a.m. that his fellow Americans should go check out pornography, it was Trump.

It was all Trump.

Trump is helping Hillary.

[sinkspur]

At least Trump would not arm ISIS and train ISIS unlike Hillary. At least Trump would not leave his people to die with out trying to get them help, unlike Hillary.

You don't know what Trump would do. He is totally 'effing ignorant about everything.

[Longmire]

"I know more about ISIS than the generals do.  Believe me."

Considering how ineffective the so-called generals have been against ISIS, I'd say Trump is probably fairly accurate when he says that.

For instance Trump knows that ISIS isn't a JV team, and that you don't put your "plan" for dealing with ISIS on your website for them to read.

Frankly, I'd like to ask some generals WTF they're doing providing logistical support and weapons to ISIS in the first place.

Of course Obama has decimated the general staff and military morale generally. No wonder two thirds of the men and women in uniform support Trump.

[sinkspur]

The RNC is preparing to go nuclear:

Washington ExaminerVerified account
‏@dcexaminer
RNC memo: We have questions about Bill Clinton's half-brother

[Luis Gonzalez]

At least Trump would not arm ISIS and train ISIS unlike Hillary. At least Trump would not leave his people to die with out trying to get them help, unlike Hillary.

It continues to amaze me that people who support Trump for his unorthodox, unpredictable approach to politics insist on predicting how he will behave if elected.

[sinkspur]

Considering how ineffective the so-called generals have been against ISIS, I'd say Trump is probably fairly accurate when he says that.

For instance Trump knows that ISIS isn't a JV team, and that you don't put your "plan" for dealing with ISIS on your website for them to read.

Frankly, I'd like to ask some generals WTF they're doing providing logistical support and weapons to ISIS in the first place.

Of course Obama has decimated the general staff and military morale generally. No wonder two thirds of the men and women in uniform support Trump.

Actually Gary Johnson is tied with Trump as to who the military personnel support for President:

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/this-poll-of-the-us-military-has-gary-johnson-tied-with-donald-trump-in-the-race-for-president

Trump knows nothing.  He has proven himself incapable of learning anything and has no base of knowledge on which to build.  And Americans are realizing it.

That's why he is going to lose.

[kartographer]

Well I hope you enjoy president Hillary, you deserve her, since you are unwilling to back the only candidate that might be able to stop and her anti-American, pro amnesty, pro Muslim brotherhood, pro corruption government.  And by all means keep deluding yourself into thinking there is no difference between Hillary and Trump. Even the leader of the #NeverTrump movement, Ted Cruz, realizes that president Hillary would be a disaster for the USA. President Hillary would mean the end of Constitutional government in the USA.  But go right ahead and keep those blinders on your eyes.


By the way, your hyperbole about "dictator" and "messiah" are way over the top.

Either way Hillary or Trump we are getting just what we deserve.

[Longmire]

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/this-poll-of-the-us-military-has-gary-johnson-tied-with-donald-trump-in-the-race-for-president

Johnson may be a stalking horse for folks who haven't made up their minds completely, but the key takeaway is:

Clinton trails as a distant third-place choice, with only 16.3 percent of troops' support.

[jpsb]

You don't know what Trump would do. He is totally 'effing ignorant about everything.

Let me know then you build one of these.

[jmyrlefuller]

You don't know what Trump would do.

I don't think ANYONE knows what Trump would do, even Trump himself. But by golly, he can fake it.

[jmyrlefuller]

Let me know then you build one of these.

When my daddy leaves me a few hundred million and some nice real estate connections, I'll let you know.

[Sanguine]

Either way Hillary or Trump we are getting just what we deserve.

I've got to disagree with you there - I don't deserve Hillary Clinton.  I've done some things in my life I deeply regret, but nothing bad enough to deserve HRC.

[musiclady]

When my daddy leaves me a few hundred million and some nice real estate connections, I'll let you know.

.          I have no idea why these people think that building a big building with inherited money translates into being a good President. It's wacko to make that connection.

[jpsb]

When my daddy leaves me a few hundred million and some nice real estate connections, I'll let you know.

@jmyrlefuller

From Wiki
The building (Trump Tower) broke ground in 1979, with the atrium, apartments, offices, and stores opening at a staggered schedule from February to November 1983.

Again from Wiki
Frederick Christ "Fred" Trump (October 11, 1905 – June 25, 1999)

Did you notice that Trump Tower was finished over 15 years prior to the death of Fred Trump?

Wiki
After Mary and Fred Trump wed in 1936, the couple had five children:Maryanne (born 1937), a federal appeals court judge; Frederick "Fred" Jr. (1938–81); Elizabeth (born 1942), an executive assistant at Chase Manhattan Bank; Donald (born 1946); and Robert (born 1948), president of his father's property management company. Fred, Jr. predeceased his father when he died of complications of alcoholism in 1981.[22]

He became sick with pneumonia in June 1999 and was admitted to Long Island Jewish Medical Center in New Hyde Park, where he died a few weeks later. His funeral was held at the Marble Collegiate Church. His estate was estimated by his family at $250 million to $300 million.

I hope that the FACTS presented above put to rest the lie that Trump inherited all or even most of his wealth. Donald Trump borrowed one million dollars from his father in 70's and turn that into billions by the 1980's. He doubled his money over 12 times/he increased his initial wealth by 10,000%.  His father was a builder of moderate to inexpensive  housing in Brooklyn (Slum Lord). Donald built high income in Manhattan.

You #NeverTrumpers sure do have a problem with the truth.

@musiclady it is a flat out lie that Trump inherited his wealth.

[DCPatriot]

@jmyrlefuller

From Wiki
The building (Trump Tower) broke ground in 1979, with the atrium, apartments, offices, and stores opening at a staggered schedule from February to November 1983.

Again from Wiki
Frederick Christ "Fred" Trump (October 11, 1905 – June 25, 1999)

Did you notice that Trump Tower was finished over 15 years prior to the death of Fred Trump?

Wiki
After Mary and Fred Trump wed in 1936, the couple had five children:Maryanne (born 1937), a federal appeals court judge; Frederick "Fred" Jr. (1938–81); Elizabeth (born 1942), an executive assistant at Chase Manhattan Bank; Donald (born 1946); and Robert (born 1948), president of his father's property management company. Fred, Jr. predeceased his father when he died of complications of alcoholism in 1981.[22]

He became sick with pneumonia in June 1999 and was admitted to Long Island Jewish Medical Center in New Hyde Park, where he died a few weeks later. His funeral was held at the Marble Collegiate Church. His estate was estimated by his family at $250 million to $300 million.

I hope that the FACTS presented above put to rest the lie that Trump inherited all or even most of his wealth. Donald Trump borrowed one million dollars from his father in 70's and turn that into billions by the 1980's. He doubled his money over 12 times/he increased his initial wealth by 10,000%.  His father was a builder of moderate to inexpensive  housing in Brooklyn (Slum Lord). Donald built high income in Manhattan.

You #NeverTrumpers sure do have a problem with the truth.

@musiclady it is a flat out lie that Trump inherited his wealth.

Shhhh.... please don't interrupt her delusions.  They're so entertaining to watch.   

[Luis Gonzalez]

Let me know then you build one of these.

Trump built that just like Obama killed bin Laden.

[musiclady]

Trump built that just like Obama killed bin Laden.

 

[jpsb]

Trump built that just like Obama killed bin Laden.

@Luis Gonzalez @musiclady

You people are beyond crazy if you think Trump did not build Trump Tower! Oh wait y'all are part  of Hillary's "you did not build that" club, I get it now.

From Wiki
The project involved complicated negotiations with different parties for the architecturally significant Bonwit Teller building itself, the land, and the airspace above a neighboring building. When negotiations were completed in 1978, The New York Times wrote "That Mr. Trump was able to obtain the location... is testimony to [his] persistence and to his skills as a negotiator."

Trump Tower was developed by (Donald) Trump and the Equitable Life Assurance Company

[Axel]

@Luis Gonzalez @musiclady

You people are beyond crazy if you think Trump did not build Trump Tower! Oh wait y'all are part  of Hillary's "you did not build that" club, I get it now.

From Wiki
The project involved complicated negotiations with different parties for the architecturally significant Bonwit Teller building itself, the land, and the airspace above a neighboring building. When negotiations were completed in 1978, The New York Times wrote "That Mr. Trump was able to obtain the location... is testimony to [his] persistence and to his skills as a negotiator."

Trump Tower was developed by (Donald) Trump and the Equitable Life Assurance Company

Touche.

Don't expect any concessions with a Never here. There's no such thing as a middle ground with most of them.

[musiclady]

@jpsb    If you're calling me a liar because I said Trump inherited money it is a great irony, since you're here proselytizing for the biggest liar in American political history. 

[LMAO]

 Watching the Trump campaign the movie "Black Sheep" with Chris Farley comes to mind with Trump being Chris Farley's character

[DCPatriot]

@jpsb    If you're calling me a liar because I said Trump inherited money it is a great irony, since you're here proselytizing for the biggest liar in American political history. 

@jpsb

LOL!  Didn't I tell you she's a laugh a minute?   

[Mod1]

The thread is about Trump and Cruz. Let's stick to that, please.

[LMAO]

And it seems very clear to me that you have absolutely no idea of the context in which I made that statement.  The context was asking for evidence of how Trump will actually destroy the conservative movement once in office.  The comparison was Hillary enabling the registration and voting of up to ten million illegal voters, and packing the Supreme Court with progressive activists who will issue rulings finding that much of the progressive agenda is constitutionally mandated.  That is something from which there is no recovery.

In response, I was quoted a serious of stupid statements/ridiculous threats made by some Trump supporters.  I then pointed out that statements like "we'll all have to "bow down" to Trump", or that non-Trump supporters will be "hunted down with dogs" are not reality.  They are braggadocious B.S., and do not reflect what will happen after the election.

Given that you very clearly did not pay attention to what had been said earlier, I'll just ask you directly:

Which do you believe is more likely to actually occur?

A) If Hillary is elected, she will 1) appoint progressive justices who will grant constitutional protections to much of the progressive agenda, and 2) loosen voting and immigration restrictions so as to enable the casting of votes by millions of new voters who should not be eligible; or,

B) If Trump is elected, we will all be forced to bow down to him, and everyone who didn't vote for him will be hunted down like dogs.

Which of those do you think, in reality, is the more plausible scenario?

@Maj. Bill Martin

I see the claim of Trump supporters will hunt non believers down with dogs in the same way I see the belief by his backers that only Trump will save America...utter nonsense

However, my likely scenario, should Trump win, has us conservatives saying a lot of "We told you so's" to those who backed him

[Luis Gonzalez]

@Luis Gonzalez @musiclady

You people are beyond crazy if you think Trump did not build Trump Tower! Oh wait y'all are part  of Hillary's "you did not build that" club, I get it now.

From Wiki
The project involved complicated negotiations with different parties for the architecturally significant Bonwit Teller building itself, the land, and the airspace above a neighboring building. When negotiations were completed in 1978, The New York Times wrote "That Mr. Trump was able to obtain the location... is testimony to [his] persistence and to his skills as a negotiator."

Trump Tower was developed by (Donald) Trump and the Equitable Life Assurance Company

Are you one of those English-as-a-second-language people who have problems understanding the language's grammatical subtleties?