Cruz: I'm voting for Trump

[Doug Loss]

The biggest joke is that he pretends to welcome debate.  HA!!!  Dissent not allowed by that crowd.  The Cruz endorsement is evidence.  They (the general "they," but it includes people like the poster you quoted) bullied him into submission.  Shame on him for succumbing.  But first, shame on them.

I never insist that anyone be silenced or banned; I figure that my positions speak for themselves to the observers viewing the discussion.  That's pretty much unlike the actions of those on the other side, who regularly call for anyone who doesn't follow their line to be silenced.  Just know folks, it ain't gonna happen.  I will not be silenced.  I may be banned sometime, but I will insist on my right to speak.

[musiclady]

I never insist that anyone be silenced or banned; I figure that my positions speak for themselves to the observers viewing the discussion.  That's pretty much unlike the actions of those on the other side, who regularly call for anyone who doesn't follow their line to be silenced.  Just know folks, it ain't gonna happen.  I will not be silenced.  I may be banned sometime, but I will insist on my right to speak.

You won't be banned HERE........... the Trumpzealots might protest that you're not, but it ain't gonna happen no matter how much they cry and whine.

[HAPPY2BME]

We're re-opening the thread, so PLAY NICE! First person who demands a banning gets a taste of his/her/its own medicine, Kapish?

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Great place!


               Editorial/Opinion / Bless their Cold War hearts  Why the neocons don’t like Donald Trump

[Bigun]

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This is the best place in the world to study the mind of neocons.

Great place!

   Trump supporters are indeed fertile grist for that mill!

[Doug Loss]

Oh I was not referring to you.  Your post was great.  You were not the one quoted in the post I responded to.  I have that person on ignore, so I was just responding to Bigun's use of the quote.

Speak away.  Do not be silenced.  I've never seen you try to intimidate and insult someone into submission.

 I know.  I was just planting the metaphorical flag.

[bigheadfred]

I never insist that anyone be silenced or banned; I figure that my positions speak for themselves to the observers viewing the discussion.  That's pretty much unlike the actions of those on the other side, who regularly call for anyone who doesn't follow their line to be silenced.  Just know folks, it ain't gonna happen. I will not be silenced.  I may be banned sometime, but I will insist on my right to speak.

[Cyber Liberty]

Back to topic...

I think Cruz was painted into a corner.  No matter what he said or did (or didn't say or do), he was going to get a ration of crap over it.  Sometimes one has to take a step back and decide what's best for the country, and I think that's what Cruz did.  Even if it means making up after the deeply personal attacks from Trump.

He knows that if, by some miracle, Trump wins this, the two need each other to get the things done that the country needs.  Without Trump, Cruz gets nothing.  Without Cruz, Trump gets nothing.  Nobody wants a lose-lose deal, but that's what we all get if everybody remains dug in and sandbagged.

My vote remains a matter of my own conscience, just as it has for the 40 or so years I've been casting votes for politicians.  Cruz' statement doesn't change that one iota for me, and I don't think it does for anybody else here. 

[montanajoe]

Then, there's something sinister going on here.

When certain Trump supporters view the forum as "guests", the site is lightening fast....the way it's supposed to be.

However, when said Trump supporters....myself included...log on, it takes literally more than a minute for any page to load.

IOW, it can't be the IP address...because in guest mode it works the way it's supposed to.

So tell us....has a certain backroom adversary whose name begins with "O" been manipulating said accounts?   Has he enabled something that repeatedly churns...if that's the correct term....making using the forum a very unpleasant experience?

Because I know damned full well not everybody can be experiencing this...otherwise you'd have a riot on your hands.

Pray tell?   

Oh Geez I have the same problem at times, I just thought it was due to the server issues the site has been experiencing lately.

It's rather telling that one of the most avid Trump supporters is also a conspiracy nut

[Doug Loss]

  Trump supporters are indeed fertile grist for that mill!

Nah, I'm afraid that if you used them for grist you'd just get grit and bone chips which would be very annoying in the flour...

[Frank Cannon]

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Great to see you still spewing your Jew hating garbage.

[Silver Pines]

@montanajoe

Remember every time there was server trouble at TOS?  It was always some kind of sinister attack.   

[Cyber Liberty]

I still think he made the wrong decision.  He sided with people who hate him and betrayed people who have defended him for months.

That is a valid perspective.  The willingness to fight friends while embracing enemies is an infuriating trait that seems to be an integral part of "the Beltway sickness" politicians get when they move to DeeCee.

[Bigun]

Love it!  Might even steal it!   

[Cyber Liberty]

Great to see you still spewing your Jew hating garbage.

Help me out, @Frank Cannon ...how was that "Jew hating garbage?"  Am I missing some context?  My curiosity is genuine.  I know the term "Neocon" is a dirty word for many, is that it?

[Sanguine]

Back to topic...

I think Cruz was painted into a corner.  No matter what he said or did (or didn't say or do), he was going to get a ration of crap over it.  Sometimes one has to take a step back and decide what's best for the country, and I think that's what Cruz did.  Even if it means making up after the deeply personal attacks from Trump.

He knows that if, by some miracle, Trump wins this, the two need each other to get the things done that the country needs.  Without Trump, Cruz gets nothing.  Without Cruz, Trump gets nothing.  Nobody wants a lose-lose deal, but that's what we all get if everybody remains dug in and sandbagged.

My vote remains a matter of my own conscience, just as it has for the 40 or so years I've been casting votes for politicians.  Cruz' statement doesn't change that one iota for me, and I don't think it does for anybody else here.

I hear ya,  @Cyber Liberty , but I think this cigar is really just a cigar.   I think he sees the much,  much greater threat that Hilary presents and he's going to vote for Trump as the better option, however slight the difference is.

[bigheadfred]

Back to topic...

I think Cruz was painted into a corner.

Good thing no one painted him into a clown. No use scaring the ids. I meant no use scaring the kids but ids seems more apropos if you are not Jung.

[aligncare]

As far as I know, second place finishers in presidential primaries usually, traditionally endorse the party's nominee.

He may be late, but he arrived finally. Ted Cruz had to do this for party unity and for the sake of his career.

I wouldn't read too much into it.

[Doug Loss]

As far as I know, second place finishers in presidential primaries usually, traditionally endorse the party's nominee.

He may be late, but he arrived finally. Ted Cruz had to do this for party unity and for the sake of his career.

I wouldn't read too much into it.

We don't, as is evidenced by the fact that Cruz's action has had virtually no effect on anyone else.

[Cyber Liberty]

I hear ya,  @Cyber Liberty , but I think this cigar is really just a cigar.   I think he sees the much,  much greater threat that Hilary presents and he's going to vote for Trump as the better option, however slight the difference is.

We are not in disagreement here... 

[bigheadfred]

This site has been VERY troublesome for me lately.  So if there is a sinister plot, I am on the bad list.    

I wasn't being snide when when I suggested people need a secondary activity here sometimes. I was being series when I said I had knitted new winter gear for the entire clan waiting for pages to load.

 

[montanajoe]

@montanajoe

Remember every time there was server trouble at TOS?  It was always some kind of sinister attack.   

Yep I do, as I recall it usually happened when the begathons stalled but you are right there was a connection ...

[bigheadfred]

Yep I do, as I recall it usually happened when the begathons stalled but you are right there was a connection ...

I always thought the slowness during the begathons was lack of a connection.

[Cyber Liberty]

As far as I know, second place finishers in presidential primaries usually, traditionally endorse the party's nominee.

He may be late, but he arrived finally. Ted Cruz had to do this for party unity and for the sake of his career.

I wouldn't read too much into it.

This.  The best thing I've seen from you on the subject.   

The gloating really turned me off, and I respect you a lot more when you don't do that (yes, I know that matters not a wit to you.  I'm fine with that).  This applies to other things as well, BTW.  I can't stand gloating for pretty much any subject.  "Be Magnanimous in Victory."  The only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner.

[Cyber Liberty]

@montanajoe

Remember every time there was server trouble at TOS?  It was always some kind of sinister attack.   

Never attribute malice to what could be simple incompetence.  I always had my doubts that John ever really had a handle on what he was doing.

[Frank Cannon]

Help me out, @Frank Cannon ...how was that "Jew hating garbage?"  Am I missing some context?  My curiosity is genuine.  I know the term "Neocon" is a dirty word for many, is that it?

Neocon is a pejorative term towards Conservative Jews. The Stormfront wing of the Trumpettes love to use it liberally to show their contempt for people of a certain religious background and I hate that with a passion.