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Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« on: September 23, 2016, 08:22:19 pm »
Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
'Last year, I promised to support the Republican nominee. And I intend to keep my word,' Cruz wrote.
By Katie Glueck and Burgess Everett
09/23/16 01:44 PM EDT
Updated 09/23/16 04:07 PM EDT

Ted Cruz on Friday said he would vote for Donald Trump for president, ending months of speculation over whether the senator from Texas would side with his bitter primary rival after snubbing him on stage at the Republican National Convention.

"After many months of careful consideration, of prayer and searching my own conscience, I have decided that on Election Day, I will vote for the Republican nominee, Donald Trump," Cruz wrote in a Facebook post.

Cruz said he planned to vote for Trump because of a primary pledge to support the party nominee, as well as his concerns about Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

"Last year, I promised to support the Republican nominee. And I intend to keep my word," Cruz said. "Second, even though I have had areas of significant disagreement with our nominee, by any measure Hillary Clinton is wholly unacceptable — that’s why I have always been #NeverHillary."

The announcement comes amid debate among Cruz supporters about the effects on an endorsement on Cruz's political future within the Republican party.

“If he announces he endorses, it destroys his political brand,” said someone who had worked for Cruz's campaign.

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Excerpt. Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-rival-cruz-to-throw-support-to-gop-nominee-228584
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2016, 08:27:25 pm »
His Facebook statement:

This election is unlike any other in our nation’s history. Like many other voters, I have struggled to determine the right course of action in this general election.

In Cleveland, I urged voters, “please, don’t stay home in November. Stand, and speak, and vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket whom you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution.”

After many months of careful consideration, of prayer and searching my own conscience, I have decided that on Election Day, I will vote for the Republican nominee, Donald Trump.

I’ve made this decision for two reasons. First, last year, I promised to support the Republican nominee. And I intend to keep my word.

Second, even though I have had areas of significant disagreement with our nominee, by any measure Hillary Clinton is wholly unacceptable — that’s why I have always been #NeverHillary.

Six key policy differences inform my decision. First, and most important, the Supreme Court. For anyone concerned about the Bill of Rights — free speech, religious liberty, the Second Amendment — the Court hangs in the balance. I have spent my professional career fighting before the Court to defend the Constitution. We are only one justice away from losing our most basic rights, and the next president will appoint as many as four new justices. We know, without a doubt, that every Clinton appointee would be a left-wing ideologue. Trump, in contrast, has promised to appoint justices “in the mold of Scalia.”

For some time, I have been seeking greater specificity on this issue, and today the Trump campaign provided that, releasing a very strong list of potential Supreme Court nominees — including Sen. Mike Lee, who would make an extraordinary justice — and making an explicit commitment to nominate only from that list. This commitment matters, and it provides a serious reason for voters to choose to support Trump.

Second, Obamacare. The failed healthcare law is hurting millions of Americans. If Republicans hold Congress, leadership has committed to passing legislation repealing Obamacare. Clinton, we know beyond a shadow of doubt, would veto that legislation. Trump has said he would sign it.

Third, energy. Clinton would continue the Obama administration’s war on coal and relentless efforts to crush the oil and gas industry. Trump has said he will reduce regulations and allow the blossoming American energy renaissance to create millions of new high-paying jobs.

Fourth, immigration. Clinton would continue and even expand President Obama’s lawless executive amnesty. Trump has promised that he would revoke those illegal executive orders.

Fifth, national security. Clinton would continue the Obama administration’s willful blindness to radical Islamic terrorism. She would continue importing Middle Eastern refugees whom the FBI cannot vet to make sure they are not terrorists. Trump has promised to stop the deluge of unvetted refugees.

Sixth, Internet freedom. Clinton supports Obama’s plan to hand over control of the Internet to an international community of stakeholders, including Russia, China, and Iran. Just this week, Trump came out strongly against that plan, and in support of free speech online.

These are six vital issues where the candidates’ positions present a clear choice for the American people.

If Clinton wins, we know — with 100% certainty — that she would deliver on her left-wing promises, with devastating results for our country.

My conscience tells me I must do whatever I can to stop that.

We also have seen, over the past few weeks and months, a Trump campaign focusing more and more on freedom — including emphasizing school choice and the power of economic growth to lift African-Americans and Hispanics to prosperity.

Finally, after eight years of a lawless Obama administration, targeting and persecuting those disfavored by the administration, fidelity to the rule of law has never been more important.

The Supreme Court will be critical in preserving the rule of law. And, if the next administration fails to honor the Constitution and Bill of Rights, then I hope that Republicans and Democrats will stand united in protecting our fundamental liberties.

Our country is in crisis. Hillary Clinton is manifestly unfit to be president, and her policies would harm millions of Americans. And Donald Trump is the only thing standing in her way.

A year ago, I pledged to endorse the Republican nominee, and I am honoring that commitment. And if you don’t want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency, I encourage you to vote for him.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2016, 08:27:26 pm »

Ted Cruz announces endorsement of Donald Trump

http://www.kltv.com/story/33173954/ted-cruz-announces-endorsement-of-donald-trump

Published:Friday, September 23rd 2016, 12:33 pm PDT
Updated:Friday, September 23rd 2016, 12:39 pm PDT

Stephanie Frazier, Digital Content Producer
 
Ted Cruz has decided that he will stand with Donald Trump in the November election. This comes after months of Cruz saying he could not endorse Trump, calling him a narcissist, among other things.

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I won't be here after the election and vote.

If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2016, 08:27:56 pm »

This post is not an opinion piece and therefore can stay in the Politics forum.


I won't be here after the election and vote.

If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2016, 08:47:01 pm »
This post is not an opinion piece and therefore can stay in the Politics forum.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2016, 08:49:47 pm »
Cruz like most of the GOP is coming around to the realization that Trump is going to lose, the only question is how big. A show of unity may, in their view, prevent a down ticket disaster. This is about the down ticket races, the GOP needs to get its voters out in November. Even if they don't vote for Trump they need the votes down ticket.

I can't see how this helps Trump much as anyone likely to hold their nose and vote for Trump is going to do so anyway and they didn't need Cruz handing them the hankie. It's about 2020 and I think he has made the political calculation that letting some of his supporters down now is better than alienating the GOP establishment that he will need in 2020.

Cruz is after all, a politician with Conservative views rather a Conservative politician.....

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2016, 08:56:34 pm »
@unknown

??  What opinion does this story present?

The mods were moving the previous thread to "Editorial/Opinion" on this topic as it was considered an opinion piece. This thread is NOT and opinion piece and can therefore stay here in "Politics."


I won't be here after the election and vote.

If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2016, 09:11:03 pm »
Cruz's statement is very clear about taking Trump's word on the six issues he outlined.

I have not heard Trump be so unequivocal, but will take Cruz at his own word that he actually heard Trump or some other authorized person in the Trump campaign make him these promises.

It all goes into the hopper as I decide what I end up doing this November.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2016, 09:21:15 pm »
I can't see how this helps Trump much as anyone likely to hold their nose and vote for Trump is going to do so anyway and they didn't need Cruz handing them the hankie. It's about 2020 and I think he has made the political calculation that letting some of his supporters down now is better than alienating the GOP establishment that he will need in 2020.

He's also gotten some concessions from Trump.  Not that I'd trust them.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2016, 09:22:59 pm »

Now that I've gotten the preliminary I told you so's out of the way on the other thread, I'd like to extend my heartfelt congratulations to Senator Cruz for getting over his hurt and for coming to his senses. He must've used that extra strength Preparation-H I sent him.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2016, 09:28:06 pm »
The funny part about this is so many think or play this like some personality cult and think opposition to Trump will change simply because Cruz endorses him. The fact of the matter is for most who oppose Trump, it isn't because Cruz lost, it is because Trump is a lying, liberal, con-artist who is anti-Liberty and anti-Constitution and is taking this country, along with his friend and compatriot Hillary Clinton, down a very dark path. That's what we oppose.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2016, 09:28:54 pm »
Now that I've gotten the preliminary I told you so's out of the way on the other thread, I'd like to extend my heartfelt congratulations to Senator Cruz for getting over his hurt and for coming to his senses. He must've used that extra strength Preparation-H I sent him.

I don't know what it is with you and several others always referring to their hurt butt...it's sickening and please stop it.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2016, 09:30:38 pm »
Now that I've gotten the preliminary I told you so's out of the way on the other thread, I'd like to extend my heartfelt congratulations to Senator Cruz for getting over his hurt and for coming to his senses. He must've used that extra strength Preparation-H I sent him.

Did it ever occur to you that showing a little grace would be more likely to persuade others to your side?  Is it truly necessary to rub this in the faces of other people?  Cruz made a tough decision because he thought it was for the good of the country.  Is just a tiny bit of respect too much to ask?

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2016, 09:31:38 pm »
This post is not an opinion piece and therefore can stay in the Politics forum.

WTH are you talking about no one has touched this thread
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2016, 09:32:28 pm »
Did it ever occur to you that showing a little grace would be more likely to persuade others to your side?  Is it truly necessary to rub this in the faces of other people?  Cruz made a tough decision because he thought it was for the good of the country.  Is just a tiny bit of respect too much to ask?

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2016, 09:32:34 pm »
I don't know what it is with you and several others always referring to their hurt butt...it's sickening and please stop it.

Some just have butt obsessions. I think it is a Rorschach Test. Freud would have a field day.

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2016, 09:42:45 pm »
Now that I've gotten the preliminary I told you so's out of the way on the other thread, I'd like to extend my heartfelt congratulations to Senator Cruz for getting over his hurt and for coming to his senses. He must've used that extra strength Preparation-H I sent him.

Likewise. Its great to have Cruz on board and his voice is needed in terms of steering the GOP and our future president (Donald Trump) on the conservative path. Cruz likely just saved his political career by recognizing the existential threat of a Hillary presidency....I'm sure it was a hard pill for him to swallow and he has shown great maturity in endorsing our nominee.

We cannot afford to lose this election...having lived through 50 years of such races...I have to say, this is easily the most important election since 1980. If Hillary Clinton walks into the White House, the world and our nation change dramatically, permanently, and in an alarmingly liberal direction...Alinsky-ite socialism becomes cemented as mainstream Dem party thought and liberalism becomes a right wing doctrine clung to by the few remaining GOP remnants. The wild extreme will be genuine conservatism and it will die a slow, steady and ugly death as its adherents dwindle to nothing.

No hyperbole here, just an assessment of how significant this single election is...and don't buy into the cop out that declares people say that same thing every four years. Which they do...but this time, they are actually correct. This one is different, if we veer Clintonian Left, there will be no coming back. So yes, sometimes you ally yourself with a Stalin to beat a Hitler...its not as morally satisfying as being rolled over by a German tank, but in the end you can't effect ANY positive change if you've been annihilated by the greater of two evils. And lets be clear, moral equivalencies cannot reasonably drawn between Hillary and Donald...she is a VASTLY greater evil.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2016, 09:45:02 pm »
Grace? Excuse me? Where were you while packs of Cruz supporters and assorted #NeverTrumpers ganged up on and ravaged with streams of vile insults the handful of Trump supporters here?

No no no, this doesn't just end with the cult leader Cruz endorsing Trump. No, it's not that easy. It doesn't just stop with that.

The way you people HERE treated Trump supporters was nothing less than shameful and I won't soon forget that.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2016, 09:47:19 pm »
Battle lines being defined. Bush comes out saying he will vote for Hillary Rodham. Cruz comes out with a vote for Trump.

This is the entrenched establishment vs. the rebel upstarts. Old blood against new blood. Time to choose a side like Ted did.

Are you for Trump? Or are you for Hillary? You can stand on the sidelines if you want to, but this is the decision everyone else is making.
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2016, 09:47:20 pm »

...you could say my butt hurts.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2016, 09:49:35 pm »
Likewise. Its great to have Cruz on board and his voice is needed in terms of steering the GOP and our future president (Donald Trump) on the conservative path. Cruz likely just saved his political career by recognizing the existential threat of a Hillary presidency....I'm sure it was a hard pill for him to swallow and he has shown great maturity in endorsing our nominee.

We cannot afford to lose this election...having lived through 50 years of such races...I have to say, this is easily the most important election since 1980. If Hillary Clinton walks into the White House, the world and our nation change dramatically, permanently, and in an alarmingly liberal direction...Alinsky-ite socialism becomes cemented as mainstream Dem party thought and liberalism becomes a right wing doctrine clung to by the few remaining GOP remnants. The wild extreme will be genuine conservatism and it will die a slow, steady and ugly death as its adherents dwindle to nothing.

No hyperbole here, just an assessment of how significant this single election is...and don't buy into the cop out that declares people say that same thing every four years. Which they do...but this time, they are actually correct. This one is different, if we veer Clintonian Left, there will be no coming back. So yes, sometimes you ally yourself with a Stalin to beat a Hitler...its not as morally satisfying as being rolled over by a German tank, but in the end you can't effect ANY positive change if you've been annihilated by the greater of two evils.
Unfortunately, the time for all of that was four years ago. We did what you are suggesting four years ago when we supported Mitt Romney. It didn't work, and look around you. Everything you are saying about what will happen under a Hillary presidency is already happening under Obama, a man sinister enough to even beat Hillary at her own game. The damage is already being done. We had our chance doing it that way, and we failed.

At least Hillary is proven to be weaker and less effective than Obama.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2016, 09:50:20 pm »

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2016, 09:51:47 pm »
Grace? Excuse me? Where were you while packs of Cruz supporters and assorted #NeverTrumpers ganged up on and ravaged with streams of vile insults the handful of Trump supporters here?

No no no, this doesn't just end with the cult leader Cruz endorsing Trump. No, it's not that easy. It doesn't just stop with that.

The way you people HERE treated Trump supporters was nothing less than shameful and I won't soon forget that.

Align, you are not wrong...we all witnessed the lynch mob mentality and the "shouting down" that Trump voters faced here. But now is the time to follow Cruz's lead and try to welcome people...acknowledging that they had MANY justified concerns about Mr. Trump. Heck, I'm a clear supporter of him and I still have reservations...it just has taken time for some to accept that Trump with his many warts is a far better option than Clinton. Let me add that the Major, in all my interactions with him, was fair and reasonable.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2016, 09:52:45 pm »
Grace? Excuse me? Where were you while packs of Cruz supporters and assorted #NeverTrumpers ganged up on and ravaged with streams of vile insults the handful of Trump supporters here?

Generally, I was right here, saying that it would be nice if both sides could be a bit less nasty towards the other.  Both sides.

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No no no, this doesn't just end with the cult leader Cruz endorsing Trump. No, it's not that easy. It doesn't just stop with that.

The way you people HERE treated Trump supporters was nothing less than shameful and I won't soon forget that.

Presumably, if you truly believe it is important that Trump wins, you would hope that Cruz' endorsement would sway some who may be on the fence to reconsider their opposition and vote, however reluctantly, for Trump.  So the question is -- do you think your attitude/behavior/statements at this point in time are more likely to bring people over to your side, or to push them away?  Any guesses?

Of course, there's always the possibility that you simply don't care if Trump actually wins, or that having Trump win is less important to you than the catharsis of getting in digs at other posters.

When stuff gets out of hand on a message board, most people are faced with the opportunity to try to make things better, or try to make them worse.  It's pretty clear which path you've chosen.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2016, 09:54:11 pm »
Battle lines being defined. Bush comes out saying he will vote for Hillary Rodham. Cruz comes out with a vote for Trump.

This is the entrenched establishment vs. the rebel upstarts. Old blood against new blood. Time to choose a side like Ted did.

Are you for Trump? Or are you for Hillary? You can stand on the sidelines if you want to, but this is the decision everyone else is making.

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