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Constitutional Party Supporters, note, 2012 Constitutional Party Presidential Candidate Virgil Goode has endorsed Trump.
So what? That was the 2012 candidate. He never ran against Trump.





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Good plan except you forgot one little tiny part!  You have to get the bastard elected!  Good luck with that!
Which amoral Leftist totalitarian statist from New York was that they want to elect, anyway?
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Stubbornness isn't a principle as much as it is a character flaw.  :nono:
Except when you are right. Then, it is a virtue.
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Just so you know, I get all that trash as well and I'm NOT at all happy about it!
I just tear my name off any identifying junk mail and stuff the postage paid return envelope with it. It's amazing how much that stuff drops off...the rest is in a bucket near the fireplace for tinder.
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Leaderless malcontents, you'll have the impact of a bug on a windshield.  :seeya:
Some bugs have more impact than others. :silly: :silly:
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They're clearly begging for our votes.......... by being as repugnant and obnoxious as humans can be.

I find their tactics VERY odd!

Wow. What a revelation! They have done nothing but psychologically project the whole time they have harassed those who would not vote for Trump, as if it would convince us to do so.

Maybe they're all masochists, and think that would work with us? :pondering:
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No, they're not.  The Trumpenfaithful are quite content with themselves and their Dear Leader.  The "malcontents" I'm talking about are those quiet people (of all races and ethnicities, not just those we've previously thought of as fruitful ground for conservatives) who feel that there's no one and no group who represents their beliefs, desires, and hopes for the future.  They are the ones we need to find and welcome.
You are correct. Voter participation indicates there are vast numbers of people who do not feel represented enough to even vote, perhaps even outnumbering those who do vote, and I strongly suspect a significant plurality of those who do vote do so out of desperation in order to avoid something which is so antithetical to their beliefs they will vote for anything but.

I think the word "Conservative" has to be avoided, though, as the result of hyphenation and misuse and equating the philosophy with the Republican brand has so damaged the word in terms of meaning that it is a meaningless term in the overall picture. Unfortunately, "Republican" has been co opted, too, and no longer means those who advocate a Republic, such as the Founders created.

We need to either select an existing Party and build it, or create an entirely new one. The former (and I have reiterated my thinking on this ad infinitum) would take selecting a Party based on platform, which essentially is in agreement with our goals. The latter is going to be difficult.

I will stump at this point for the Constitution Party, on the ballot or a recognized write-in in 32 of the 50 states at present, with 17 pending or in progress as write-ins.
Platform here: (and posted in the Constitution Party section of this websitehttp://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/board,126.0.html) and on the Party website: https://www.constitutionparty.com/our-principles/platform-and-resolutions/

That is already a fair force for a 'third party' and could be expanded relatively rapidly with an infusion of support.

(Personally, I find the Constitution Party already closest to where I want a political party to be in terms of principles. YMMV)

The Libertarian Party and the Green Party have a media advantage, as they are most often mentioned in the media.

The link to the Green Party home page is here, with their four pillars: http://www.gp.org/ with links from there to their ten key values.
The Green Party is pretty much antithetical to what most who have been considered "Conservative" stand for, with an uber liberal platform. Not all the disaffected in America are disaffected because they think government does too much. Do not take my word for it, and become educated by  checking them out.

The Libertarian Party is perhaps the best known, and will be on all 50 state ballots and in Washington DC. In a way, this is a measure of increased 'third' party support this year because this is the first time since 1996 that the Libertarian Party has had that broad ballot access.

The first thing I noted on the LP platform webpage is that the page is being translated into Spanish. Hmmmm.
Party platform here:
http://www.lp.org/platform Again, check them out, and agree or disagree as you will.

Much of the information on Party ballot availability is dated on websites like ballotpedia, and the best updates are likely to be found directly on the respective party websites.



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No personal attacks, please. Let's act like adults.

What are the chances that we could get a corner of the site where we as NeverTrumpers could have discussions without being needled by the ProTrumpers? Sort of as a balance to this board: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/board,120.0.html


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Was thinking today.....'President Trump' should revoke EPA's conviction of Volkswagon regarding the diesel engine computer fudging the numbers.

Instead of the more than $153 Million dollar fine to the government, Volkswagon agrees to build an assembly plant.  Lowest corporate taxes on the planet for ten years.   Let's sell some cars.

Let's sell some homes for families...which means appliances...building supplies...landscapers.

I think it would also be fascinating to see the Global Warming Crowd's head explode.
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Was thinking today.....'President Trump' should revoke EPA's conviction of Volkswagon regarding the diesel engine computer fudging the numbers.

Instead of the more than $153 Million dollar fine to the government, Volkswagon agrees to build an assembly plant.  Lowest corporate taxes on the planet for ten years.   Let's sell some cars.

Let's sell some homes for families...which means appliances...building supplies...landscapers.

I think it would also be fascinating to see the Global Warming Crowd's head explode.

DC, You're not yourself today. I noticed the improvement immediately.

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Was thinking today.....'President Trump' should revoke EPA's conviction of Volkswagon regarding the diesel engine computer fudging the numbers.

Instead of the more than $153 Million dollar fine to the government, Volkswagon agrees to build an assembly plant.  Lowest corporate taxes on the planet for ten years.   Let's sell some cars.

Let's sell some homes for families...which means appliances...building supplies...landscapers.

I think it would also be fascinating to see the Global Warming Crowd's head explode.



Or not

 Trump acknowledges climate change — at his golf course

The billionaire, who called global warming a hoax, warns of its dire effects in his company's application to build a sea wall.

By Ben Schreckinger

05/23/16 05:35 AM EDT

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436#ixzz4LEYnvK4W
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436

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Was thinking today.....'President Trump' should revoke EPA's conviction of Volkswagon regarding the diesel engine computer fudging the numbers.

Instead of the more than $153 Million dollar fine to the government, Volkswagon agrees to build an assembly plant.  Lowest corporate taxes on the planet for ten years.   Let's sell some cars.

Let's sell some homes for families...which means appliances...building supplies...landscapers.

I think it would also be fascinating to see the Global Warming Crowd's head explode.
Aside from the NINJA loan crowd, who is buying in a shaky market? Aside from people with Government jobs, that is? Just about anyone else is open to getting a layoff.
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Aside from the NINJA loan crowd, who is buying in a shaky market? Aside from people with Government jobs, that is? Just about anyone else is open to getting a layoff.

I'm in the process of building a custom home to live in.

After pricing out the land and the cost to build, it's actually a good deal cheaper than a cookie-cutter pre-built house.

And it's going to last a lot longer and need much less maintenance.

Plus, it's going to be on stilts - with the underside being the spot to park my car.  (not a garage, though)

Somewhat like this, only with charred cedar wood siding:


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I'm in the process of building a custom home to live in.

After pricing out the land and the cost to build, it's actually a good deal cheaper than a cookie-cutter pre-built house.

And it's going to last a lot longer and need much less maintenance.

Plus, it's going to be on stilts - with the underside being the spot to park my car.  (not a garage, though)

Somewhat like this, only with charred cedar wood siding:


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The billionaire, who called global warming a hoax, warns of its dire effects in his company's application to build a sea wall.

And the sad part is that pedestrian thinkers fail to acknowledge the brilliance in such a maneuver.   :pondering:






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I'm in the process of building a custom home to live in.

After pricing out the land and the cost to build, it's actually a good deal cheaper than a cookie-cutter pre-built house.

And it's going to last a lot longer and need much less maintenance.

Plus, it's going to be on stilts - with the underside being the spot to park my car.  (not a garage, though)

Somewhat like this, only with charred cedar wood siding:



You need a garage.


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Quote by @Longmire updated for accuracy:

And the sad part is that pedestrian thinkers fail to acknowledge the brilliance in such a maneuver. of flip-flopping/pandering/lying.

Apparently, Republicans are now okay with the tactics they've always found so disingenuous. Now that it's their Democrat with the R behind his name, it's not only acceptable -- it's brilliant!

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You need a garage.



I actually went out of my way to not have one.  Just open-air parking up the home.

If I have a garage, I'd never use it for a car, but for storage... which then means I'll never park in it.

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Quote by @Longmire updated for accuracy: liberal rebuttal

And the sad part is that pedestrian thinkers fail to acknowledge the brilliance in such a maneuver. of flip-flopping/pandering/lying.

Trump doesn't have to believe in global warming to force liberals to support him or expose their hypocrisy on the issue. 

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Apparently, Republicans are now okay with the tactics they've always found so disingenuous. Now that it's their Democrat with the R behind his name, it's not only acceptable -- it's brilliant!

There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Trump did...text book Art of the Deal.   :laugh:


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There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Trump did...text book Art of the Deal.   :laugh:
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Trump did...text book Art of the Deal.

Defining deviancy down is no longer just for Democrats.

It's the preferred tactic for every liberal, no matter the party they claim fealty to.
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Trump did...text book Art of the Deal.   :laugh:

In that case, there's "absolutely nothing wrong" with any lie that he's told during his entire campaign.

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If he does nothing that he's said that he would do, or even if he does the exact opposite of what he promised to do, textbook Art of the Deal excuses his actions and his supporters will just have to deal with that.
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In that case, there's "absolutely nothing wrong" with any lie that he's told during his entire campaign.

If he does nothing that he's said that he would do, or even if he does the exact opposite of what he promised to do, textbook Art of the Deal excuses his actions and his supporters will just have to deal with that.

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Perhaps they need to stop giving us allusion after allusion to the fact they are acting like militant thugs.

And how do you know I wasn't referencing this kind of stormtrooper?


Considering Trumps ability to hit the target politically I assumed those were the ones.
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