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A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama

Paul Lewis and Tom Silverstone in Youngstown, Ohio

Thursday 22 September 2016 07.00 EDT Last modified on Thursday 22 September 2016 09.10 EDT



Donald Trump’s campaign chair in a prominent Ohio county has claimed there was “no racism” during the 1960s and said black people who have not succeeded over the past half-century only have themselves to blame.

Kathy Miller, who is white and chair of the Republican nominee’s campaign in Mahoning County, made the remarks during a taped interview with the Guardian’s Anywhere but Washington series of election videos.

“If you’re black and you haven’t been successful in the last 50 years, it’s your own fault. You’ve had every opportunity, it was given to you,” she said.

“You’ve had the same schools everybody else went to. You had benefits to go to college that white kids didn’t have. You had all the advantages and didn’t take advantage of it. It’s not our fault, certainly.”

Miller also called the Black Lives Matter movement “a stupid waste of time” and said lower voter turnout among African Americans could be related to “the way they’re raised”.

Her comments risk further alienating African American voters from Trump in the crucial swing state. No Republican president has reached the White House without also winning Ohio, a state in which 12.7% of the population is black.

Trump has repeatedly stumbled in his push to attract black voters, an effort that began with his declaration last month that African Americans have “nothing to lose” by voting for him.

Mahoning, the eastern Ohio county where Miller is coordinating Trump’s campaign, is a historically Democratic stronghold that includes Youngstown, a former steel city that has experienced decades of economic decline.

The county is reputedly “ground-zero” for disaffected white, working-class Democrats who are drawn to Trump’s promise to boost manufacturing by renegotiating international free-trade agreements.

Before the primaries, some 6,000 Democrats in Mahoning switched party affiliation to Republican, reportedly to vote for Trump.

Miller, a real estate broker, said that the Democrats switching over to her party were mostly older, white voters.

She said there were “some” African Americans but played down their importance, suggesting they were only a small portion of the population and do not tend to turn out in elections in significant numbers.

African Americans constitute 16% of Mahoning county’s population, which is larger than the state and national average.

During the past two presidential elections, voter turnout in Ohio was actually higher among black people than white people.

Miller, however, suggested low turnout among black people could be connected to culture. “I don’t think that’s part of the way they’re raised,” she said. “For us, I mean, that was something we all did in our families, we all voted.”

Miller also dismissed the racial tensions of the 1960s, when she said she graduated from high school. “Growing up as a kid, there was no racism, believe me. We were just all kids going to school.”

Asked about segregation and the civil rights movement, she replied: “I never experienced it. I never saw that as anything.”


Miller added: “I don’t think there was any racism until Obama got elected. We never had problems like this ... Now, with the people with the guns, and shooting up neighborhoods, and not being responsible citizens, that’s a big change, and I think that’s the philosophy that Obama has perpetuated on America.”

Miller dismissed the suggestion that Trump was exploiting racist or prejudiced views among some voters as “the media making stuff up”. Instead, she said of the Republican nominee: “He’s very willing to talk about issues that have never been discussed publicly.”

When it was pointed out that some people might find her remarks offensive, Miller replied: “I don’t care, it’s the truth.”
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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2016, 01:35:36 pm »
More Trump black outreach......
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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2016, 01:56:17 pm »
This is bizarre.

I was raised in Mahoning County, born in 1949 and lived there until 1978 other than college years, and trust me, there WAS racism (not that any semi-intelligent human being needs to be told that).

I grew up in a lily white suburb of Youngstown, and there were two black kids in the schools, the children of servants of one of the wealthiest families in town.

For the most part, they were treated like dirt.  My younger sister and the girl became friends in elementary school, my sister being a very fair, blue-eyed towhead, and they would walk around holding hands.  It was the cutest thing because my sister didn't care what color she was.  The other kids didn't treat either of those fine kids well.

In the sixties, the Mafia was the biggest problem in Youngstown.......the murders and bombings of warring families...... but to say there was no racial strife is ignorant.

But not at all surprising from a Trump lackey, is it?

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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2016, 02:00:05 pm »
We sure have a lot more racism with Obama.

The woman interviewed could have lived in a very sheltered area, she said she didn't see it.

The Guardian has some good journalism but they are also often a race baiting newspaper as well.

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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2016, 02:00:25 pm »
btw, my elementary school did a Minstrel Show in black face in 1961 for our spring program.....

No racism, eh??    **nononono*
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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2016, 02:02:35 pm »
We sure have a lot more racism with Obama.

The woman interviewed could have lived in a very sheltered area, she said she didn't see it.

The Guardian has some good journalism but they are also often a race baiting newspaper as well.

Excuses, excuses.  There is no area so "sheltered" that one cannot see what is clearly there.

In fact, the probability that she grew up in a white community that was clueless about race issues is proof that racism existed.

No doubt Obama has made it much worse, but denying it was there at all is just STUPID.
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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2016, 02:03:44 pm »
We sure have a lot more racism with Obama.

The woman interviewed could have lived in a very sheltered area, she said she didn't see it.

The Guardian has some good journalism but they are also often a race baiting newspaper as well.

She's lying or she's galactically stupid.
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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2016, 02:11:21 pm »
She's lying or she's galactically stupid.

Or a racist herself who thinks her bigotry is acceptable......
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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2016, 02:12:27 pm »
How old is this lady?  Anyone around before the 1960s remembers segregation in every aspect of life -- housing, education, jobs, even travel. I remember that Sammy Davis, Jr. could perform with the Rat Pack at the primo Las Vegas resorts, but he couldn't stay at them.    And particularly in the south, there were separate waiting rooms at train stations, separate drinking fountains, separate sections of restaurants for "bleep." Some restaurants and business establishments wouldn't serve black people at all. 

The civil rights movement brought down the barriers.  But leave it to Obama to put them back up again.  When he was elected, the talking heads on TV all hailed him as the great unifier.  After eight years, we are more divided than ever.

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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2016, 02:15:06 pm »
Excuses, excuses.  There is no area so "sheltered" that one cannot see what is clearly there.

In fact, the probability that she grew up in a white community that was clueless about race issues is proof that racism existed.

No doubt Obama has made it much worse, but denying it was there at all is just STUPID.

Gotta disagree with you there.   Minorities of all colors tend to group together.  Implying that her area was white because they were racist ignores the complexity of this issue.  Certainly racism has existed all the way back to Old Testament times.

However, Obama has made it much much worse here in the US.   It seems as if our glorious leader who led such a difficult life in Hawaii as a young immigrant.  Before he attended Columbia of course.   Had a very difficult life and wants some payback by starting a racewar.

Of course that racewar will allow him to federalize the police and possibly delay/cancel the election.
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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2016, 02:18:52 pm »
Gotta disagree with you there.   Minorities of all colors tend to group together.  Implying that her area was white because they were racist ignores the complexity of this issue.  Certainly racism has existed all the way back to Old Testament times.

However, Obama has made it much much worse here in the US.   It seems as if our glorious leader who led such a difficult life in Hawaii as a young immigrant.  Before he attended Columbia of course.   Had a very difficult life and wants some payback by starting a racewar.

Of course that racewar will allow him to federalize the police and possibly delay/cancel the election.

Regardless of the fact that minorities tend to group together, the fact that I lived in a lily white (wealthy) suburb where the only blacks were servants indicates that racism was an issue.  Of course people group together where they are more comfortable, but this woman's statement that there was no racism in Mahoning County in the 1960's is absolutely false and monumentally stupid.

Remember, I lived there.  I saw it.  I know better.
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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2016, 02:20:22 pm »
How old is this lady?  Anyone around before the 1960s remembers segregation in every aspect of life -- housing, education, jobs, even travel. I remember that Sammy Davis, Jr. could perform with the Rat Pack at the primo Las Vegas resorts, but he couldn't stay at them.    And particularly in the south, there were separate waiting rooms at train stations, separate drinking fountains, separate sections of restaurants for "bleep." Some restaurants and business establishments wouldn't serve black people at all. 

The civil rights movement brought down the barriers.  But leave it to Obama to put them back up again.  When he was elected, the talking heads on TV all hailed him as the great unifier.  After eight years, we are more divided than ever.

She looks old enough to know better.

Just because there were no separate facilities here in Ohio doesn't mean that racism didn't exist.  It clearly did.  It wasn't just in the south.
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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2016, 02:27:21 pm »
Regardless of the fact that minorities tend to group together, the fact that I lived in a lily white (wealthy) suburb where the only blacks were servants indicates that racism was an issue.  Of course people group together where they are more comfortable, but this woman's statement that there was no racism in Mahoning County in the 1960's is absolutely false and monumentally stupid.

Remember, I lived there.  I saw it.  I know better.

Where does she say she has black servants?  Were there a lot of plantations in Ohio?

Certainly it was a poorly thought out statement.   This must be the first time thats happened with the Trump campaign.  /s
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2016, 02:33:14 pm »
Where does she say she has black servants?  Were there a lot of plantations in Ohio?

Certainly it was a poorly thought out statement.   This must be the first time thats happened with the Trump campaign.  /s

The "servants" was a reference to my post about the suburb I lived in, not to anything she said.

Not a 'poorly thought out statement".......... an outright falsehood.

Obviously not the first time the Trump campaign has done that either....  ^-^
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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2016, 05:24:29 pm »
What a dumb comment. In all fairness before Obama, racial tensions wasn't bad at all but President Obama has set back race relations in the country for a least 20 years.
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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2016, 05:32:27 pm »
What a dumb comment. In all fairness before Obama, racial tensions wasn't bad at all but President Obama has set back race relations in the country for a least 20 years.

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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2016, 05:45:14 pm »
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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2016, 06:40:07 pm »
This woman is an idiot, which makes her a perfect fit for the Trump campaign.

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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2016, 06:46:04 pm »
btw, my elementary school did a Minstrel Show in black face in 1961 for our spring program.....

No racism, eh??    **nononono*


Why is blackface racist? 


Whiteface is pretty funny too. 







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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2016, 06:50:48 pm »
What a dumb comment. In all fairness before Obama, racial tensions wasn't bad at all but President Obama has set back race relations in the country for a least 20 years.


Very much agree with you.    This is what you get when you use "affirmative action"  to elect a Racially Obsessed President.   


He wasn't qualified for the job,  he had no accomplishments in his life,  and it was specifically racist to elect such a low quality man simply on the basis of his race. 


And then the fool made things worse,  not just in terms of racial animosity,  but in every conceivable way. 


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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2016, 07:21:31 pm »
In a recent interview, rapper Lil Wayne was asked about racism and he said something along the lines of he didn't think it was a problem because he'd never had anyone be racist to him.

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Re: A Trump campaign chair in Ohio says there was 'no racism' before Obama
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2016, 07:40:21 pm »

Why is blackface racist? 

Whiteface is pretty funny too. 


If you have to ask why mocking another race is racist, you're not what we call "educable."

While the left has used and abused racism to their political advantage, to deny that it exists is just stupid.
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