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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #450 on: September 23, 2016, 01:34:03 am »


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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #451 on: September 23, 2016, 02:13:27 am »
My mileage does vary. "Little Marco" supporters were ticked off that they couldn't vote for Rubio, and Mair was definitely anti Trump, yet not pro-Cruz. Anti-Trump does not equal pro Cruz.

The Cruz Mahr 'connection' is made through Fiorina who joined forces with the Cruz campaign after she dropped out.

Don't make me explain this to you again.

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #452 on: September 23, 2016, 02:38:54 am »
I don't even know if Ranier or Coors are even around anymore. I don't drink enough to worry about. But when I do, it's normally PBR. No need for me to be pretentious.

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Ranier like a lot of the old brands is now owned by Pabst.

My old favorite Olympia is owned by them now.

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #453 on: September 23, 2016, 02:46:01 am »
@roamer_1

Ranier like a lot of the old brands is now owned by Pabst.

My old favorite Olympia is owned by them now.

Yeah, I like Oly... So Oly and Ranier are still in distribution? Not here, which is odd...

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #454 on: September 23, 2016, 03:50:19 am »
The Cruz Mahr 'connection' is made through Fiorina who joined forces with the Cruz campaign after she dropped out.

Don't make me explain this to you again.
You keep saying Cruz Mahr?

Mahr who?

The person who ran the Make America Awesome PAC was Liz MAIR. You don't even have the name right, and I frankly don't know who this MAHR person is.

 So, lay the lie out for me, there peaches, peel it open and pin the parts back on the board, and link your sources, or you don't have squat.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #455 on: September 23, 2016, 04:21:48 am »
Yep, I don't know about receiving funds, but something was worked out between T&C because Trump needed Carson bad to help him skim off votes in future elections. Carson was told to play the victim card and good things would befall him in some fashion. Carson likes the attention, evident when the next debate rolled out and Carson just stood there like an idiot grabbing camera time at the entrance while other candidates walked past him. Didn't hear my butt, it was planned IMHO by Carson and Trump. Almost like some pro-wrestling PR trick. They were bosom buddies from that point on.

I don't know.  I have Carson pegged as sincerely wanting to save Donald Trumps soul.  I think he falls inside the circle of Evangelists that believe God is raising Trump up for such a time as this.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #456 on: September 23, 2016, 11:57:45 am »
I don't recall it being all that bad... But then, I was drinking it by the bucket-full at the time, and I might admit that taste was not my primary motive... Couldn't stand Coors or Michelob... Pretty much all the rest would do.

I don't drink beer, but in my neck of the woods everyone drinks Yuengling.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #457 on: September 23, 2016, 03:16:37 pm »
I don't drink beer, but in my neck of the woods everyone drinks Yuengling.

Huh? Did your fingers get tangled up in the keyboard at the end there? :wink:

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #458 on: September 23, 2016, 03:47:39 pm »
Perhaps the pro-Cruz crowd should adopt "Hands up, don't shoot!" as the immediate response to repeated lies about Cruz.
But: Draw, please draw. Has a much better ring to it.  ^-^
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #459 on: September 23, 2016, 03:49:06 pm »
The Cruz Mahr 'connection' is made through Fiorina who joined forces with the Cruz campaign after she dropped out.

Don't make me explain this to you again.
But if you tell a lie long enough and loud enough people will believe it. It's an underlying principle of Trumps truthful hyperbole.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #460 on: September 23, 2016, 04:08:59 pm »
I don't know.  I have Carson pegged as sincerely wanting to save Donald Trumps soul.  I think he falls inside the circle of Evangelists that believe God is raising Trump up for such a time as this.

The circle of Evangelists that are nuckin futz, IMO.  Why would God choose an immoral person like Trump to "save America"?  It's ludicrous. 

That said, this holiday season should be entertaining.  My best friend, like a sister, will be spending Christmas and part of Thanksgiving with me.   This is a person that has proclaimed that Trump has been chosen by God....lol.

We do indeed live in interesting times.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #461 on: September 23, 2016, 04:44:34 pm »
Huh? Did your fingers get tangled up in the keyboard at the end there? :wink:

Hey, now...don't diss on the Yuengling!  Traditional Lager is a fine beer, and their porter is great (although not available outside of PA, so far as I know).  If you like a super-hoppy ale, Lord Chesterfield is worth a try, too.

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #462 on: September 23, 2016, 05:16:25 pm »
Hey, now...don't diss on the Yuengling!  Traditional Lager is a fine beer, and their porter is great (although not available outside of PA, so far as I know).  If you like a super-hoppy ale, Lord Chesterfield is worth a try, too.



Wish they would do a sample pack down here.  All we get is Reg, Light, and B&T.

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #463 on: September 23, 2016, 05:43:11 pm »
Wish they would do a sample pack down here.  All we get is Reg, Light, and B&T.

Well, you can go here:

http://www.yuengling.com/distributors2/

and check where various beers are in relation to your zipcode.  Hope that helps.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #464 on: September 23, 2016, 05:54:24 pm »
The circle of Evangelists that are nuckin futz, IMO.  Why would God choose an immoral person like Trump to "save America"?  It's ludicrous. 

That said, this holiday season should be entertaining.  My best friend, like a sister, will be spending Christmas and part of Thanksgiving with me.   This is a person that has proclaimed that Trump has been chosen by God....lol.

We do indeed live in interesting times.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #465 on: September 23, 2016, 05:58:52 pm »
Well, you can go here:

http://www.yuengling.com/distributors2/

and check where various beers are in relation to your zipcode.  Hope that helps.

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #466 on: September 23, 2016, 06:10:05 pm »
I found some of this, in Texas no less, a few months back:



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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #467 on: September 23, 2016, 06:33:10 pm »
Why would God choose an immoral person like Trump to "save America"?

He wouldn't.

He's probably sitting quietly, thinking to Himself, Well, My children, you were fool
enough to set up a choice between a crank and a crook for the presidency, so I'm staying
out of it. I'll still be here when you've figured out this was probably the biggest damn fool
mistake any of My children have made since My chosen were bigger damn fool enough to
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you the 1969 Mets and the 2004 Red Sox, so you know I'm a pretty fun loving guy, but
even My fun loving has its limits . . .


 

That said, this holiday season should be entertaining.  My best friend, like a sister, will be spending Christmas and part of Thanksgiving with me.   This is a person that has proclaimed that Trump has been chosen by God....lol.

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #468 on: September 26, 2016, 02:48:49 pm »
@HoustonSam

With the exception of Carson, all of the examples you cited fall short of the mark or are wildly off target.

Fiorina attacked Trump first in a bid to get on the main stage in the debates.

Trump's not donating a million dollars to veterans fast enough is a media inspired red herring, and skipping a debate isn't a dirty trick.

The coordinated attack on Trump's wife came from a pro-Cruz PAC with ties to Fiorina who subsequently joined Cruz on the campaign trail.

The Steve Tyler incident encapsulates the Cruz mindset about dirty campaign tactics.

Tyler re-tweeted something without verifying its authenticity. He quickly deleted the tweet once it's inaccuracy was revealed. He issued a public apology to Rubio.

Not good enough for Cruz who summarily fired his communications director and used the incident to deflect blame for all his campaign's dirty tactics.

It should be noted that the dirty tricks didn't stop with the removal of Tyler, but they did become more nuanced and harder to trace back to Cruz.

If Cruz really wanted to run a clean campaign he never would have hired someone like Jeff Roe to run it.

Trump may be crude and offensive but he didn't play dirty like Cruz.

It's a nice homage to history to take a trip down memory lane.

Thanks, Longmire, for facts – as known to the layperson – reality, as the psychiatric profession knows it.

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #469 on: September 26, 2016, 02:56:13 pm »
It's a nice homage to history to take a trip down memory lane.

Thanks, Longmire, for facts – as known to the layperson – reality, as the psychiatric profession knows it.

Tell Longmire "modify" is his friend. I think he was referring to Rick Tyler, not the front man for Aerosmith.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #470 on: September 26, 2016, 03:04:43 pm »
Tell Longmire "modify" is his friend. I think he was referring to Rick Tyler, not the front man for Aerosmith.

But "Dream On" might be a good generic response to the claims of Trump's virtues and capabilities.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #471 on: September 26, 2016, 03:15:28 pm »
But "Dream On" might be a good generic response to the claims of Trump's virtues and capabilities.

Excellent observation, Sam!

I know I come off as a grammar/spelling enthusiast at times, but if someone's going to issue a screed to support why they've acted like ascheloches for months in support of their candidate, at least show me the courtesy of having reviewed the screed before hitting "post".
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #472 on: September 26, 2016, 03:25:46 pm »
Excellent observation, Sam!

I know I come off as a grammar/spelling enthusiast at times, but if someone's going to issue a screed to support why they've acted like ascheloches for months in support of their candidate, at least show me the courtesy of having reviewed the screed before hitting "post".

I had thought of calling out that original error since it was in a post addressed to me, but decided that leaving it in place without comment was itself a subtle form of rebuttal.  I didn't realize it would be a "two-fer" in that, admittedly quite minor, regard, reflecting both on the author of the post and one who would later piggyback on it without meaningful addition.
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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #473 on: September 26, 2016, 03:51:30 pm »
@HoustonSam

With the exception of Carson, all of the examples you cited fall short of the mark .....

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If Cruz really wanted to run a clean campaign he never would have hired someone like Jeff Roe to run it.

Trump may be crude and offensive but he didn't play dirty like Cruz.

Donald Trump's running for president, not Saint.

Since the start of his campaign they've been screaming about his tone. That's the kernel of NeverTrump's complaints – his mean-spirited insults. ...the rest has been just partisan political noise and deceptive headlines on political fora that turned out to be lies.

Donald Trump has built an incredible, stable, growing, prosperous company for 40 years. Imagine the temperament required to build a 100-story skyscraper, one after another after another, across the globe. You can't do that unless you're a serious, focused person.

Employees don't quit him. Of the thousands of people who've worked for him, no ex-employee is suing him or is in the media thrashing him – in fact, just the opposite. Friends in his circle have only praise for Donald Trump. You just can't achieve that level of success if you're crazy, stupid or racist as his critics claim.

As for his personal life, how many of you throwing stones have been divorced? Or, when you were young and stupid had an affair? Or shot your mouth off? Or exaggerated your tennis game or your fielding in baseball?

Just partisan political noise is what we get from Hillary Clinton and #NeverTrump.

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Re: Republican friendships shatter over Trump
« Reply #474 on: September 27, 2016, 11:51:15 am »
It's a nice homage to history to take a trip down memory lane.

Thanks, Longmire, for facts – as known to the layperson – reality, as the psychiatric profession knows it.

@aligncare names were changed to protect the innocent.  :laugh: