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Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« on: September 11, 2016, 01:04:05 pm »
 Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’

A public debate about the true size of Donald Trump’s ‘alt-right’ base doesn’t bother Team Hillary one bit.

By Annie Karni

09/10/16 09:05 PM EDT

“Words have consequences,” Hillary Clinton likes to caution while campaigning against the loose-lipped, insult-hurling Donald Trump. “Words can be misinterpreted.”

But it was the Democratic nominee, generally so careful with her language, whose own inelegant prose seemed to level invective at some 20 percent of the American electorate Friday night, when she plopped them all into a big “basket of deplorables” while addressing supporters at an LGBT fundraiser in New York City.

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables, right?” Clinton told the friendly audience fired up to see Barbra Streisand perform at the cavernous Cipriani on Wall Street. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it.”

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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2016, 01:34:23 pm »
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Trump has insulted and degraded everybody he has talked about during this campaign -- from our generals in the military to a gold star family to a judge who has devoted years to serving the public, for his heritage,” senior campaign strategist Joel Benenson said in an interview. “Nothing compares to that. We will not stop talking about the bigoted remarks he’s made, or the white supremacists he retweets. He doesn’t deserve a pass on any of those comments.

The Trump campaign keeps this controversy alive at its peril.  Everybody knows the alt-right and its scummy followers are in Trump's camp.  Do they want to continue to draw attention to that fact?
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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2016, 01:53:22 pm »
The Trump campaign keeps this controversy alive at its peril.  Everybody knows the alt-right and its scummy followers are in Trump's camp.  Do they want to continue to draw attention to that fact?

Yes, and no.

The "alt-right" is a festering boil on the body of the GOP, and they tolerate its presence at their peril.

But most of Trump's supporters have nothing to do with that "movement" such as it is, and are instead ordinary Americans fed up with our nation's inability to deal with, much less solve important and lingering problems. Many, if not all of our own TBR members fall into that category.

I don't care for Trump, as I have made plain on many occasions in this space. But I would not casually ascribe to them the motives and ideology of the Fever Swamps, and moreover, Hillary Clinton's despicable denigration of such a huge swath of ordinary Americans is more than fair game for criticism.   
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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2016, 01:58:14 pm »
Yes, and no.

The "alt-right" is a festering boil on the body of the GOP, and they tolerate its presence at their peril.

But most of Trump's supporters have nothing to do with that "movement" such as it is, and are instead ordinary Americans fed up with our nation's inability to deal with, much less solve important and lingering problems. Many, if not all of our own TBR members fall into that category.

I don't care for Trump, as I have made plain on many occasions in this space. But I would not casually ascribe to them the motives and ideology of the Fever Swamps, and moreover, Hillary Clinton's despicable denigration of such a huge swath of ordinary Americans is more than fair game for criticism.   

Hillary is not going to get the votes of ardent Trump supporters.  But she wants the votes of college-educated whites who want nothing to do with that movement, in any form. 

Why Trump has not publicly disavowed this "movement" as Reagan and HW Bush did, in speeches, is beyond me.  Maybe he knows he can't win without them.
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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
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Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’

Because she knows the #NeverTrumps will support her?

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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2016, 03:05:02 pm »
Because of stuff like this:


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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2016, 05:01:31 pm »
Because of stuff like this:

Twitter is a cultural and political war zone, so don't believe everything you see on an unverified account.  :nono:


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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2016, 05:09:11 pm »
Hillary isn't sweating it, because she can't. She just overheats.
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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2016, 05:23:49 pm »
Twitter is a cultural and political war zone, so don't believe everything you see on an unverified account.  :nono:

Uh-huh.  Just keep repeating that to yourself.
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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2016, 05:33:56 pm »
Because she knows the #NeverTrumps will support her?

Hillary supporters and #NeverTrump are both working for the same objective, so effectively they are on the same team – #NeverTrump's protestations notwithstanding. They may come to their Trump hatred from opposite sides of the political spectrum, but, in the end they both want the same thing: defeating Donald Trump and hence victory for Hillary Clinton.

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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2016, 05:50:47 pm »
Hillary supporters and #NeverTrump are both working for the same objective, so effectively they are on the same team – #NeverTrump's protestations notwithstanding. They may come to their Trump hatred from opposite sides of the political spectrum, but, in the end they both want the same thing: defeating Donald Trump and hence victory for Hillary Clinton.
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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2016, 06:19:16 pm »
Uh-huh.  Just keep repeating that to yourself.

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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2016, 06:31:55 pm »
Yes, and no.

The "alt-right" is a festering boil on the body of the GOP, and they tolerate its presence at their peril.

But most of Trump's supporters have nothing to do with that "movement" such as it is, and are instead ordinary Americans fed up with our nation's inability to deal with, much less solve important and lingering problems. Many, if not all of our own TBR members fall into that category.

I don't care for Trump, as I have made plain on many occasions in this space. But I would not casually ascribe to them the motives and ideology of the Fever Swamps, and moreover, Hillary Clinton's despicable denigration of such a huge swath of ordinary Americans is more than fair game for criticism.   

What it does is create a situation where the topic is his dog whistles and his alt-right followers.  As Trump is constitutionally incapable of admitting he has done wrong (in public), he will 'double-down' on this issue against Clinton.
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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2016, 07:20:28 pm »
I think Trump can play this if he does it right, especially with Reagan Democrats.
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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2016, 08:38:10 pm »
Hillary supporters and #NeverTrump are both working for the same objective, so effectively they are on the same team – #NeverTrump's protestations notwithstanding. They may come to their Trump hatred from opposite sides of the political spectrum, but, in the end they both want the same thing: defeating Donald Trump and hence victory for Hillary Clinton.

None of that is true, of course.  But if that's what you have to convince yourself of to sleep at night, go for it.
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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2016, 12:24:12 am »
Hillary supporters and #NeverTrump are both working for the same objective, so effectively they are on the same team – #NeverTrump's protestations notwithstanding. They may come to their Trump hatred from opposite sides of the political spectrum, but, in the end they both want the same thing: defeating Donald Trump and hence victory for Hillary Clinton.

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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2016, 12:27:11 am »
Watch your fingers @aligncare, the nevertrumps are vicious little weasels especially when cornered.  :laugh:

Your buddy got a timeout. 
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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2016, 12:28:27 am »
Ok, just don't blame me when a Sinkspur twitter account filled with Trump porn appears next week.  ^-^

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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2016, 01:08:20 am »
Your buddy got a timeout.
Is that what they told you?

I heard he was in Mod training for a couple of days...


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Re: Why Clinton isn’t sweating ‘deplorables’
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2016, 10:31:09 am »
Is that what they told you?

I heard he was in Mod training for a couple of days...



You heard this from him, I suppose.  If the owners make someone as vicious as him a moderator, it will say something about their "evenhandedness."  But I don't believe that's true, just because you said it.
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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2016, 11:19:52 am »
You heard this from him, I suppose.  If the owners make someone as vicious as him a moderator, it will say something about their "evenhandedness."  But I don't believe that's true, just because you said it.
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