Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election

[Silver Pines]

The amazing disconnect from reality demonstrated by this "came alive" assertion is quite amazing, isn't it? I wonder what they are basing it on? The huge down tick in contributions the GOP has been receiving? The massive unfavorables for their nominee? The schism created within the conservative movement? The fact that there appears to be almost no electoral path to victory? Maybe by alive, they mean how lively Trump steps between stances on various policy positions?

Oh yeah - the party has "come alive," alright! Just not in the way they think. It's a monster.

@bolobaby

They're basing it on pure, out-of-control emotion. 

(RIP Gene)

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

A minority of fanatical followers

Describes the Cruz #nevertrump brigade perfectly.  Thank you for this @CatherinofAragon

[Silver Pines]

Nor can one be a "fiscal conservative" and a "social liberal", IMHO. The two simply don't mesh.

But facts and uncomfortable truths will be ignored.  Trump's supporters see in him what they want to see, instead of a man with a liberal past & not a single accomplishment for the cause of conservatism under his belt. 

[INVAR]

Most of their verbiage has to do with Cruz's pledge to support the nominee, which in my view was nullified when Trump and his minions slandered the Cruz family.

CORRECTION:  It was officially nullified when Trump said on March 29th at a CNN Townhall in Wisconsin when asked by Anderson Cooper if he will abide by the Pledge he signed, Trump said "No, I don't anymore," Trump said. "No, we'll see who it is."

Trump himself voided and made irrelevant that 'pledge'.

[Applewood]

CORRECTION:  It was officially nullified when Trump said on March 29th at a CNN Townhall in Wisconsin when asked by Anderson Cooper if he will abide by the Pledge he signed, Trump said "No, I don't anymore," Trump said. "No, we'll see who it is."

Trump himself voided and made irrelevant that 'pledge'.

Actually, you are correct...although the Trump supporters I know from social media conveniently forget this. 

[Cripplecreek]

But facts and uncomfortable truths will be ignored.  Trump's supporters see in him what they want to see, instead of a man with a liberal past & not a single accomplishment for the cause of conservatism under his belt.

I see that Katrina Pierson stated last night that immigration isn't high on the list of American's priorities.

[INVAR]

There's plenty to suggest Trump is conservative, 

Total bovine excrement with a topping of feline vomit.  Only a liberal who believes in lies would try and sell a lifelong NY Democrat whose actions and words identify himself as such, would try and sell Trump as a Conservative.

Anyone who actually holds Conservative principles is not going to be swayed into believing such apostasy.

not the Mark Levin view and pushing for someone who barely could win a Bible belt state.

That is because principles mean nothing to you, they are irrelevant.  For you - it's all about the cult of personality that can 'win' the sporting event you are so invested in - Constitutional principles be damned.  It's all about "winning" regardless if the results are a Fascist dictatorship and Socialism with a big-fat gold R imprinted on them so the populace on both sides of the aisle can worship the state in their own way.

It's how you people justify Trump's ever-changing Leftist proposals and policies.

[mirvin]

So, who here thinks that if Trump WINS, GOPe will see the light and move towards conservatism? 

So, who here thinks that if Trump LOSES, GOPe will see the light and move towards conservatism? 

I do know one thing.  If Hillary wins, the Democrat Party will rule for several generations.    Universities, social media, and the news media, are already controlled by their ideology.  The last possible line of defense is the Supreme Court, and it has been wavering for years.  I’m not even sure if we can trust the military anymore. 

I agree that Trump is far from a conservative, but this is where we stand.  What principled song will you want the band to play as the metaphorical Titanic slips silently into the waters?


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[Night Hides Not]

I see that Katrina Pierson stated last night that immigration isn't high on the list of American's priorities.

Please...please...please, I hope Trump funds her candidacy for Senator in 2018 against Ted.

She's one of those who used the TEA Party for her own advancement.

IMO, it's time for TEA Partiers to sever any and all links to the Republican Party. Conservative support is no longer needed or desired by the GOP.

[Night Hides Not]

So, who here thinks that if Trump WINS, GOPe will see the light and move towards conservatism? 

So, who here thinks that if Trump LOSES, GOPe will see the light and move towards conservatism? 

I do know one thing.  If Hillary wins, the Democrat Party will rule for several generations.    Universities, social media, and the news media, are already controlled by their ideology.  The last possible line of defense is the Supreme Court, and it has been wavering for years.  I’m not even sure if we can trust the military anymore. 

I agree that Trump is far from a conservative, but this is where we stand.  What principled song will you want the band to play as the metaphorical Titanic slips silently into the waters?

Sorry friend, but we've hit the iceberg already. No one is talking about the $20T debt, and Trump changes his positions as often as he changes his underwear.

[XenaLee]

So, who here thinks that if Trump WINS, GOPe will see the light and move towards conservatism? 

So, who here thinks that if Trump LOSES, GOPe will see the light and move towards conservatism? 

I do know one thing.  If Hillary wins, the Democrat Party will rule for several generations.    Universities, social media, and the news media, are already controlled by their ideology.  The last possible line of defense is the Supreme Court, and it has been wavering for years.  I’m not even sure if we can trust the military anymore. 

I agree that Trump is far from a conservative, but this is where we stand.  What principled song will you want the band to play as the metaphorical Titanic slips silently into the waters?

This one, of course.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOomXC5Uygs

[bolobaby]

What principled song will you want the band to play as the metaphorical Titanic slips silently into the waters?

The National Anthem.

You can take a knee.

[Cripplecreek]

The National Anthem.

You can take a knee.

I'd rather lose defending the constitution than win at its expense.

[bolobaby]

I'd rather lose defending the constitution than win at its expense.

(Childish image in play because this is a concept even a child should be able to understand... but apparently not Trumpettes.)

[Silver Pines]

I see that Katrina Pierson stated last night that immigration isn't high on the list of American's priorities.

@Cripplecreek

LOL

Par for the course.  Who's got the popcorn?

[CSM]

Hey #NeverTrumps: This Could Be Your Last Relevant Election

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/09/hey_nevertrumps_this_could_be_your_last_relevant_election.html

Brian C. Joondeph
September 5, 2016
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Dear Brian,

I will issue the same challenge you that I have given to Hannity and others.  Sell Donald Trump to me.  Convince me to vote for him.  All I see is more nonsensical idiocy about Cruz and that if I don't vote Trump then Hillary will get elected!

Convince me that Donald DESERVES my vote.  I am asking very plainly for that!

[driftdiver]

Please...please...please, I hope Trump funds her candidacy for Senator in 2018 against Ted.

She's one of those who used the TEA Party for her own advancement.

IMO, it's time for TEA Partiers to sever any and all links to the Republican Party. Conservative support is no longer needed or desired by the GOP.

Why would Trump fund hers when he cant even fund his own?   Gotta agree on the GOP though, heck they couldn't even avoid nominating a lifelong liberal.

[XenaLee]

The amazing disconnect from reality demonstrated by this "came alive" assertion is quite amazing, isn't it? I wonder what they are basing it on? The huge down tick in contributions the GOP has been receiving? The massive unfavorables for their nominee? The schism created within the conservative movement? The fact that there appears to be almost no electoral path to victory? Maybe by alive, they mean how lively Trump steps between stances on various policy positions?

Oh yeah - the party has "come alive," alright! Just not in the way they think. It's a monster.

A monster that will....when the appropriate time comes....roll over and let another monster take control of the nation.  Monsters stick together.

[GtHawk]

What nevertrumps don't realize is that the GOP came alive when the people handed Trump the nomination.

Alive like a zombie

[GtHawk]

The hatred against conservatives in the GOP has never been clearer

There is no real difference between the parties anymore

Not true! The demonrat party is open and upfront about it's hatred for Conservatives, while the gop hides behind lies and a smile while it sticks a shiv in the back of Conservatism.

[RoosGirl]

Not to Him. Not to your kid. Who knows what that may mean in the future for others, too?  Exactly. God Bless you!

Thank you for the encouragement.  It is greatly appreciated.  It's been a bit of a lonely path for me; most of the other stay at home moms I run across I have absolutely nothing in common with and find it hard to relate to them.

[DCPatriot]

@bolobaby

They're basing it on pure, out-of-control emotion. 

(RIP Gene)

ROFL!   But yours is based upon what?

Careful analysis and sound deductive reasoning???

 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Getting really tired of these threats, overt and subtle, telling us that we have to vote for Trump or else.  The Republican Party has gone full-on liberal with the nomination of Trump.  It has been made plain to true conservatives that they are no longer welcome in the Republican Party.   So all that will be left are liberals.  I can't see this nation sustaining 2 liberal parties, so one of them will have to go.  And that party will be Republican.  This was the plan all along -- to kill the party by duping it into making Trump, a liberal, its nominee.  And the fools in the party fell for it.

This is pretty Chicken Little-ish.

Trump's nomination did not show that the GOP was hostile to conservatives.  It showed that a populist running alone in that lane could get a plurality of votes when the Establishment and conservative wings split the rest of the vote among a 16 candidate field.  Bad luck, bad timing, call it what you will.  Some gullible people being sucked in to support a guy out of frustration with a party establishment that didn't seem to listen on the issue of immigration.

There are Democrats who hated Bill Clinton because they saw him as too much of a centrist, and too willing to abandon some of the kookier left-wing ideals.  But -- apart from those who went for Nader and threw the election to Dubya -- most of them ended up sticking with the Democratic Party over the long-term.  And guess what?  Eventually, they got their left-wing nominee and President in Obama (twice), and appear close to a three-peat with Hillary.  All because the left didn't take their ball and go home just because they didn't like a particular nominee.

There is nobody praying harder for the fracture of the GOP than the Democrats, because they know that will be the only viable vehicle for a conservative challenger.

The truth is that conservatives are not a majority in this country, and never have been.  The only way to get a conservative as President is to have the right candidate, and build a coalition that includes some non-conservatives.  But if we take our ball, go home, and insist on a party that has rigid ideological purity, we have no chance of electing a conservative ever.

[bolobaby]

ROFL!   But yours is based upon what?

Careful analysis and sound deductive reasoning???

 

Uh... as stated:

Funding numbers
Polls
Unfavorable ratings
Electoral college analysis
Lack of Team Trump ground game
Trump flip-flops

...not to mention that the notoriously anti-GOP media hasn't even started with the "fake but accurate" stories about Trump's business dealings designed to bury the man. (There will also be plenty of "true and accurate" stories, too, that they simply haven't turned into a full-blown exposé yet. Like the way he stiffs small contractors.)

Far be it for a Trumpette to listen to the facts when presented, though.

[Texas Yellow Rose]