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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #100 on: September 01, 2016, 07:24:13 pm »
We are way too ready to turn on people.  It's not pretty.  Rush is hated at TOS because he wasn't and isn't totally in the tank for Trump.

Now, he's being hated here because he's defending Trump against Hillary.

I still give Rush credit.  This election has been hard for everyone.  It's brought out the worst of the trumpers and we shouldn't let it bring out the worst of the rest of us.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #101 on: September 01, 2016, 07:46:17 pm »


Now, he's being hated here because he's defending Trump against Hillary.



I think what people here are upset with him about is because he supported Trump...covertly endorsed him and now he's trying to convince people he never took what Trump said seriously?

Remember this is the same guy who on the air used the exact same language towards a caller that the pro Trump people use here when that caller started pointing out all of Trump's faults...

"So you want Hillary to win".
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #102 on: September 01, 2016, 08:10:55 pm »
Sorry.  Dumb post, TS.

People who aren't voting for Trump are not sitting home and doing nothing.  Making that leap is more lack of truthfulness on your part.

You may try to associate all forms of evil with people who can't support corrupt liberals, but none of them is valid.

And why don't you stop dissing this forum, OK?  If you hate it here, who's making you stay?

This forum accepts ALL perspectives, and you KNOW it.  Stop bearing false witness.

This forum is one of the rare few, or possibly even the only one, that still does accept all perspectives though.  FR is not the only forum that censors all dissent now.  It's like it's contagious.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #103 on: September 01, 2016, 08:14:37 pm »
We are way too ready to turn on people.  It's not pretty.  Rush is hated at TOS because he wasn't and isn't totally in the tank for Trump.

Now, he's being hated here because he's defending Trump against Hillary.

I still give Rush credit.  This election has been hard for everyone.  It's brought out the worst of the trumpers and we shouldn't let it bring out the worst of the rest of us.

^^ That ^^.....and.....

can we really afford to cut off our noses to spite our faces OR allow our disdain for Trump to eliminate those that have been solid allies?  Are we really in any position to just write off some of the only media people (talk show hosts like Rush, Hannity, etc.) that we have or will EVER have on our side against the radical left in America.  I don't think so.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #104 on: September 01, 2016, 08:23:09 pm »
^^ That ^^.....and.....

can we really afford to cut off our noses to spite our faces OR allow our disdain for Trump to eliminate those that have been solid allies?  Are we really in any position to just write off some of the only media people (talk show hosts like Rush, Hannity, etc.) that we have or will EVER have on our side against the radical left in America.  I don't think so.


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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #105 on: September 01, 2016, 08:31:17 pm »
^^ That ^^.....and.....

can we really afford to cut off our noses to spite our faces OR allow our disdain for Trump to eliminate those that have been solid allies?  Are we really in any position to just write off some of the only media people (talk show hosts like Rush, Hannity, etc.) that we have or will EVER have on our side against the radical left in America.  I don't think so.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #106 on: September 01, 2016, 08:58:06 pm »
Dueling metaphors. 

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #107 on: September 01, 2016, 09:16:44 pm »
^^ That ^^.....and.....

can we really afford to cut off our noses to spite our faces OR allow our disdain for Trump to eliminate those that have been solid allies?  Are we really in any position to just write off some of the only media people (talk show hosts like Rush, Hannity, etc.) that we have or will EVER have on our side against the radical left in America.  I don't think so.

Solid as in told their audiences to elect whatever liberal the GOP put up for a couple decades running?

Solid as in claiming to be upholders of conservatism yet invariably telling their audiences to elect the GOP liberal 'no matter what" or how anti-conservative or how many issues of the platform they ran against?

I get it that people want their white knights, but isn't it time to face the actual history here? Who benefits when these people preach conservatism for 23 months and then say "But THIS TIME, we gotta HOLD OUR NOSES" and repeat that same thing verbatim in 23 months?

The leftists they help elect that now have a stranglehold on American government via the GOP and DNC flavors. Thats who.

Fact. History.


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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #108 on: September 01, 2016, 09:34:08 pm »
Solid as in told their audiences to elect whatever liberal the GOP put up for a couple decades running?

Solid as in claiming to be upholders of conservatism yet invariably telling their audiences to elect the GOP liberal 'no matter what" or how anti-conservative or how many issues of the platform they ran against?

I get it that people want their white knights, but isn't it time to face the actual history here? Who benefits when these people preach conservatism for 23 months and then say "But THIS TIME, we gotta HOLD OUR NOSES" and repeat that same thing verbatim in 23 months?

The leftists they help elect that now have a stranglehold on American government via the GOP and DNC flavors. Thats who.

Fact. History.

Nevertheless......conservatives have already been made to be the "real" outsiders this year.  If we just willy-nilly write off every conservative (or even pretenda ones) that has been at least constantly anti-Obama and anti-Clinton....how is that going to be of benefit to us going forward?

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #109 on: September 01, 2016, 09:38:18 pm »
Nevertheless......conservatives have already been made to be the "real" outsiders this year.  If we just willy-nilly write off every conservative (or even pretenda ones) that has been at least constantly anti-Obama and anti-Clinton....how is that going to be of benefit to us going forward?

Even more destructive, we can be splintered into tiny groups, each of which is sure of being the only right group, and banning all apostates.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #110 on: September 01, 2016, 10:08:28 pm »
Now, he's being hated here because he's defending Trump against Hillary.

That's not true.  We are turning him off and no longer listening to him or holding him up to be the standard-bearer of Conservatism because he betrayed our principles admitted he deceived his audience when it came to whitewashing his commentary in favor of Trump lo, these many months.

He became an apostate of the very principles he once preached and espoused in favor of a NY liberal celebrity cult of personality that HE HELPED PROMOTE  in a very clever and subtle fashion not lost on those of us whose principles actually govern us.  He was dead silent on Trump's trade policies and punitive programs that are even further to the Left than Clinton's.  He was dead silent when Trump engaged in the politics of personal destruction and slander against other Conservatives, even AFTER he "won" the nomination.

His defense of Trump is shameful pandering to a lifelong liberal Democrat.  It's no different than the reaction devout Catholics would have if the pope began pushing Islam and cheerleading how it gets away with all their beheadings, rapes and mob actions to detriment of the foundations of their faith.

As such, false prophets must be shunned and no longer regarded as instruments of promoting truth.  They have broken our trust.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #111 on: September 01, 2016, 10:15:37 pm »
That title prompts a mental image that isn't ... It just isn't.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #112 on: September 01, 2016, 10:32:59 pm »
He became an apostate of the very principles he once preached and espoused in favor of a NY liberal celebrity cult of personality that HE HELPED PROMOTE  in a very clever and subtle fashion not lost on those of us whose principles actually govern us.  He was dead silent on Trump's trade policies and punitive programs that are even further to the Left than Clinton's.  He was dead silent when Trump engaged in the politics of personal destruction and slander against other Conservatives, even AFTER he "won" the nomination.

Exactly this. He didn't actively engage in trashing conservatism but his silence while others did so made him complicit.


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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #113 on: September 02, 2016, 01:37:47 am »
All of the this discussion of Rush is based on the erroneous assumption that Rush is say 50% conservative ideologue and 50% pundit.  I have always felt Rush to be about 50% entertainer, 30% pundit, 20% conservative ideologue.  He has done nothing out of the ordinary this election season.  All that is different is the chasm Trump opened between actual American conservatism (conserve the American Founding and the patrimony of Western Civilization that led up to it) and American nationalism makes his usual trash the 'Rats, be even-handed toward Republicans routine seem less satisfying than it was when the nationalists were siding with the conservatives as a matter of course.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #114 on: September 02, 2016, 04:53:58 am »
We are way too ready to turn on people.  It's not pretty.  Rush is hated at TOS because he wasn't and isn't totally in the tank for Trump.

Now, he's being hated here because he's defending Trump against Hillary.

I still give Rush credit.  This election has been hard for everyone.  It's brought out the worst of the trumpers and we shouldn't let it bring out the worst of the rest of us.

No. Rush is being hated because he lied to his audience. Conservatives are not a bunch of trained seals like the Left. We actually remember what people said.....


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« Reply #115 on: September 02, 2016, 11:37:07 am »
No. Rush is being hated because he lied to his audience. Conservatives are not a bunch of trained seals like the Left. We actually remember what people said.....



Amazing, what a lying sack of shit.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #116 on: September 02, 2016, 12:10:41 pm »
We are way too ready to turn on people.  It's not pretty.  Rush is hated at TOS because he wasn't and isn't totally in the tank for Trump.

Now, he's being hated here because he's defending Trump against Hillary.

I still give Rush credit.  This election has been hard for everyone.  It's brought out the worst of the trumpers and we shouldn't let it bring out the worst of the rest of us.

Good post, emjay.   This has been brother against brother, and we're going to have to pick up the pieces after November.   There will be a lot of hard feelings, and reconciliation may be impossible for some.   But we will have a common enemy in President Clinton,  and my final verdict on Rush Limbaugh will be, after Trump's defeat,  whether he's focused on healing or picking at scabs.   The latter, no doubt, will yield higher ratings,  but doing what's right in the face of contrary self interest is the true measure of a man.   
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #117 on: September 02, 2016, 12:56:31 pm »
Part of the problem is those of us who listen(ed) to him.  We want very much to believe in other people.  "So and so would NEVER do that" kind of stuff.  We want to believe that a few of us are staunch in the face of temptation and adversity.  And, a few of us are.  Looks like much fewer than we originally thought.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #118 on: September 02, 2016, 01:45:44 pm »
As a 24/7 subscriber and daily listener - Limbaugh was EXACTLY a Trump shill since he got in the race.

He pretended to sit on the fence, but every single time Trump said something to stymie the media - Rush spent the majority of his time chortling with glee over Trump's ability to get away with anything that would have normally sunk another candidate, and that focus became the norm.

Rush never talked about Trump's lack of Conservatism and his overt liberalism.  Rush went silent on Cruz  in large measure when Trump's incessant and personal attacks started taking their toll.  Mark Levin was the only host to actually call Trump out on those outrageous charges and claims and warned Trump to stop or risk losing Conservative support should he win the nomination.  Rush was silent on all of that.

Instead all he did was turn his show into a cheerleading session disguised as 'analysis' of Trump's ability to slam the media and the Establishment and say and do anything he liked and not suffer for it.

When Limbaugh uttered the words to a caller who said she could never bring herself to vote for Trump if he won the nomination, "then you are voting for Hillary" - I was done.  Canceled my 24/7 - turned him off and have not listened to him since.

It's no different than leaving a church that has gone apostate on foundational truths.  If the leadership corrupts their own congregations, the only recourse is to leave and go elsewhere to maintain and proclaim the truth.

Limbaugh's show - as well as a majority of the other pretend-Rght Wing media, are just apostates to what they paid lip service to all these years.

In Rush's case - I think he ceded all reason and sense and principles to marvel and support a golf buddy. Now he admits he misled his entire audience and betrayed the very things he preached.

The fruits of what Trump has accomplished in dividing and rendering totally irrelevant - Constitutional Conservatives, while supporting the very Establishment you people falsely believed he opposed.  The fact he refused to hit Hillary as hard as he hit Cruz, Rubio and Fiorina.  Said he was 'bored' with having to call out Hillary on her crap.  The fact he has become a cartoon stereotype of every Left-wing depiction of Conservatives.  The words of praise for Hillary as SecState, the funding he provided the Clintons and their foundations.   Shall I go on?  Or will you go and ignore, re-explain, or justify those things as your fellow acolytes have?


Your guy is a Trojan Stalking Horse for Hillary.  And always has been.

But you will never see it.  You are too invested in the cult of personality that is fast becoming a religion with so many rabid supporters.

Well said and worth repeating!

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #119 on: September 02, 2016, 02:03:48 pm »
Good post, emjay.   This has been brother against brother, and we're going to have to pick up the pieces after November.   There will be a lot of hard feelings, and reconciliation may be impossible for some.   But we will have a common enemy in President Clinton,  and my final verdict on Rush Limbaugh will be, after Trump's defeat,  whether he's focused on healing or picking at scabs.   The latter, no doubt, will yield higher ratings,  but doing what's right in the face of contrary self interest is the true measure of a man.   

There will be little "picking up the pieces" after November.  First, we've learned that many who've pretended to be conservative were in fact, variously, power groupies; or cheerleaders being led by backstage players; or deliberately-misleading supporters of the power structure.  We will have learned that SOME in our midst care little for the precepts and political thought behind conservatism - they seek a cult leader; someone powerful and exciting.  Eric Hoffer's True Believer.

Such persons, obviously, are not to be trusted.  And what comes after the November election will be CHAOS.  Kooks nominated to the Supreme Court.  Firearms rights, and then rights of Free Speech (to criticize Glow Bull Warming, for example) shut down.  The Internet turned into a propaganda channel...for THEIR kind of pro-collectivist, pro-Statist propaganda.

The nation overrun with violent Mohammedans imported into this nation to Third-World-ize it.  The better to solidifiy the power base of the Elites.

Firearms, cash money, precious metals, all banned or strictly controlled by government.  Auto ownership, travel rights, all restricted under the Glow-Bull Warming auspices.  Parental rights destroyed.  Government in the home, as it is already in the schools and the churches and private association.

Economic collapse, as it becomes undeniable that this New Freedom cannot work and government keeps printing dollars.

There will be no ROOM in this chaos for hero-worshippers and people easily duped by plants, stalking horses, frauds who are themselves as Leftist as our oppressing enemies.

No, this is where the conservative movement needs to regroup and figure out ways of identifying itself that excludes destructive interlopers such as we've had.

And Limbaugh?  He's going to be destroyed in Billary's America; and I'll shed no tears at this point.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #120 on: September 02, 2016, 03:35:05 pm »
I agree that Rush was more philosophically in tune with Cruz, but like all the rest in the media, he recognized that talking about Trump got more ears, so he devoted a lot more time to analyzing Trump's campaign. 

In other words, he sacrificed conservative principles for ratings (money.)  Or to put it more succinctly, HE SOLD OUT!

I agree with your analysis of the situation....

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #121 on: September 02, 2016, 05:14:32 pm »
Good post, emjay.   This has been brother against brother, and we're going to have to pick up the pieces after November.   There will be a lot of hard feelings, and reconciliation may be impossible for some.   But we will have a common enemy in President Clinton,  and my final verdict on Rush Limbaugh will be, after Trump's defeat,  whether he's focused on healing or picking at scabs.   The latter, no doubt, will yield higher ratings,  but doing what's right in the face of contrary self interest is the true measure of a man.   

I'll never trust anything he ever says again.

How will we know if he really is offended at what Obama or Clinton does or whether he is saying what he does simply to placate his audience so his ad revenues continue to support his lavish lifestyle?

Limbaugh has broken our trust.  That is not regained too easily.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #122 on: September 02, 2016, 05:23:32 pm »
Good post, emjay.   This has been brother against brother, and we're going to have to pick up the pieces after November.   There will be a lot of hard feelings, and reconciliation may be impossible for some.   But we will have a common enemy in President Clinton,  and my final verdict on Rush Limbaugh will be, after Trump's defeat,  whether he's focused on healing or picking at scabs.   The latter, no doubt, will yield higher ratings,  but doing what's right in the face of contrary self interest is the true measure of a man.   

We have ample evidence of the measure now.

You know folks, if people spent more time thinking instead of feeling, we wouldn't repeat the same mistakes. There comes a time when you cut ties with people that cut your throat. Yes, it's painful. But there is a binary here.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #123 on: September 02, 2016, 05:27:42 pm »
There will be little "picking up the pieces" after November.  First, we've learned that many who've pretended to be conservative were in fact, variously, power groupies; or cheerleaders being led by backstage players; or deliberately-misleading supporters of the power structure.  We will have learned that SOME in our midst care little for the precepts and political thought behind conservatism - they seek a cult leader; someone powerful and exciting.  Eric Hoffer's True Believer.

Such persons, obviously, are not to be trusted.  And what comes after the November election will be CHAOS.  Kooks nominated to the Supreme Court.  Firearms rights, and then rights of Free Speech (to criticize Glow Bull Warming, for example) shut down.  The Internet turned into a propaganda channel...for THEIR kind of pro-collectivist, pro-Statist propaganda.

The nation overrun with violent Mohammedans imported into this nation to Third-World-ize it.  The better to solidifiy the power base of the Elites.

Firearms, cash money, precious metals, all banned or strictly controlled by government.  Auto ownership, travel rights, all restricted under the Glow-Bull Warming auspices.  Parental rights destroyed.  Government in the home, as it is already in the schools and the churches and private association.

Economic collapse, as it becomes undeniable that this New Freedom cannot work and government keeps printing dollars.

There will be no ROOM in this chaos for hero-worshippers and people easily duped by plants, stalking horses, frauds who are themselves as Leftist as our oppressing enemies.

No, this is where the conservative movement needs to regroup and figure out ways of identifying itself that excludes destructive interlopers such as we've had.

And Limbaugh?  He's going to be destroyed in Billary's America; and I'll shed no tears at this point.

What those with eyes to see and ears to hear need to truly focus on, is surviving what is coming and forget trying to "fix" this overthrow and cultural collapse.  We are waaay past that remedy.  We are going to make the French Revolution look like a picnic.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Exposed?
« Reply #124 on: September 02, 2016, 08:00:43 pm »
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And Limbaugh?  He's going to be destroyed in Billary's America; and I'll shed no tears at this point.
First off, he survived eight years of it already. Second, he's already on his farewell tour. He can comfortably retire on the hundreds of millions he's made so far without batting an eyelash. They won't destroy him; he'll simply fade away. Believe me, they've already tried countless times.
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