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Your argument is simply that because Trump won the nomination, we are to behave like good cultists and vote for him without regard whether he's earned our vote.   The GOP was the victim of a hostile takeover and we're supposed to bend over and grab our ankles.

Doesn't work that way.  Trump's got to earn our votes,  and he's done little to do so.   

Sorry,  just because so many Trumpsters have the uncritical mindsets of cultists doesn't compel the rest of us to drink Trump's poison.

^^  This ^^

And yet, still they bleat on and try to browbeat and insult those opposed to Trump, practically every day.   Are they really dumb enough to 'think' that will win us over to their way of "not" thinking?  lol

Apparently so.
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May I suggest to DC to put XenaLee on ignore and stop the personal insults.
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....and that's as far as I got....with your post.    :whistle:

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

And cheerleading is for sporting events and other things of no consequence.  Pompoms and shaking gluteals doesn't impress anyone in an ISSUES-oriented choice and contest.

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Your argument is simply that because Trump won the nomination, we are to behave like good cultists and vote for him without regard whether he's earned our vote.   The GOP was the victim of a hostile takeover and we're supposed to bend over and grab our ankles.

Doesn't work that way.  Trump's got to earn our votes,  and he's done little to do so.   

Sorry,  just because so many Trumpsters have the uncritical mindsets of cultists doesn't compel the rest of us to drink Trump's poison.

My position, exactly.

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Failure to comply with coercion is not suicide (else one would be able to say that Jesus Christ had committed suicide).

If your house catches on fire, but you decide to stay in it and let the flames consume you, is that not suicide?

If your plane is going down, but you decide not to use your parachute, is that not suicide?

If you're about to be struck down with an axe, but you don't turn aside from the blow, have you not committed suicide?

This is one reason committing suicide was so popular for early Christians...they recognized Jesus has done so.  Remember, it wasn't until centuries after Jesus was gone that the Church politics got involved and reversed things at the First Council of Braga, with the first anti-suicide statement.*

We don't even have to go to Jesus for that, though.  Even Augustine admitted that the coerced suicides were...suicides.  For example, the virgins who killed themselves to avoid defilement by Roman soldiers or to avoid being forced to offer pagan sacrifice (e.g., Saint Pelagia of Antioch) were suicides, albeit to avoid compulsions.

The bottom line is that we should get angry at those who would try to compel us to action that is repulsive to us.

*this was along with things like excommunicating priests who didn't eat meat broth with their vegetables, so it was more politics than Biblically based.
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May I suggest to DC to put XenaLee on ignore and stop the personal insults.

Calling me, as a Trump supporter, "DUMB"....and to say that we're sheep and "BLEAT" are insults, too! 

Yet, you edited my post more than once, ultimately removing it...and said nothing to 'her'.

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Pompoms and shaking gluteals doesn't impress anyone in an ISSUES-oriented choice and contest.

Trump has pom-poms for sale on his website for his most gullible supporters.  No word if he sells knee-pads also but I'm sure some of his faithful wished he did.


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And yet, still they bleat on and try to browbeat and insult those opposed to Trump, practically every day.   Are they really dumb enough to 'think' that will win us over to their way of "not" thinking?

Who does that @XenaLee?  Speaking for myself, (although I know MANY who agree) .... the point has been reached where I don't care what you do--and certainly would not waste time trying to "win you over".

So relax, dear, and know when I come across one of your postings that I'm smiling and almost LOL reading how important you think you are in the grand scheme of this election.      :laugh:

But bless your heart, @XenaLee.  You keep pointing fingers and grumbling. 

We'll keep winning.

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Trump has pom-poms for sale on his website for his most gullible supporters.  No word if he sells knee-pads also but I'm sure some of his faithful wished he did.



Are those for REAL??   :silly: :silly:

I'll bet some of the zealots on this board have purchased multiple sets of them!
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I think the most appropriate question to ask  is "What happens if/when he drops out in Oct?"
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I think the most appropriate question to ask  is "What happens if/when he drops out in Oct?"

He won't just drop out. He will throw his histrionics out there, he will accuse the GOP of betrayal and sabotage, he will then tell his angry supporters to vote for the Democrats to "send a message" to the corrupt GOP establishment.

and it would be too late to change the ballots anyway

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He won't just drop out. He will throw his histrionics out there, he will accuse the GOP of betrayal and sabotage, he will then tell his angry supporters to vote for the Democrats to "send a message" to the corrupt GOP establishment.

and it would be too late to change the ballots anyway

yep, if he drops out he'll be the bad guy. If his goal is to discredit the conservative wing he'll need to lose to be able to blame them.

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yep, if he drops out he'll be the bad guy. If his goal is to discredit the conservative wing he'll need to lose to be able to blame them.

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yep, if he drops out he'll be the bad guy. If his goal is to discredit the conservative wing he'll need to lose to be able to blame them.
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Who does that @XenaLee?  Speaking for myself, (although I know MANY who agree) .... the point has been reached where I don't care what you do--and certainly would not waste time trying to "win you over".

So relax, dear, and know when I come across one of your postings that I'm smiling and almost LOL reading how important you think you are in the grand scheme of this election.      :laugh:

But bless your heart, @XenaLee.  You keep pointing fingers and grumbling. 

We'll keep winning.

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LMAO!   Nice try there, "Election Section Moderator".   But no ceegar.

I'm certainly not going to name any names re: who among the Trump supporters are berating us anti-Trump members on an almost daily basis.  That wouldn't be nice and might even be against the rules here.

You know who they are and I know that you know damned well who they are. 

Oh, and by the way.....your condescending, sticky sweet-syrupy blather isn't impressing anyone other than perhaps yourself.

Just so ya know.

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I think the most appropriate question to ask  is "What happens if/when he drops out in Oct?"

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He starts his new reality show "The Lounge Singer"



As he has already stated....he will go back to a very nice life and long vacation.  With a lot more cash in his coffers and a life-long promise of that quid pro quo and pay for play routine he'll get from the Clintons. 
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LMAO!   Nice try there, "Election Section Moderator".   But no ceegar.

I'm certainly not going to name any names re: who among the Trump supporters are berating us anti-Trump members on an almost daily basis.  That wouldn't be nice and might even be against the rules here.

You know who they are and I know that you know damned well who they are. 

Oh, and by the way.....your condescending, sticky sweet-syrupy blather isn't impressing anyone other than perhaps yourself.

Just so ya know.

Nice, ain't she?

Just makes you want to jump on the Trump bandwagon so you can be more like she is.   ^-^
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yep, if he drops out he'll be the bad guy. If his goal is to discredit the conservative wing he'll need to lose to be able to blame them.

@skeeter

You have to be kidding! The one thing in the world Trump fears more than anything else is being identified as a loser. He is a narcissistic sociopath,and his whole life is dedicated to presenting himself as the biggest,the strongest,and the smartest creature on the planet. Hell,he even "knows all the "best" words.

He would literally rather die than lose this big in front of the whole planet and not be able to deny losing.

He has recently started setting the stage for his withdrawal by claiming the election is rigged.

I will admit there is a SLIM possibility his ego MAY convince him that "I am a winner,have always been a winner,and will win now!" and not step down,but I just don't see him even being willing to take  a chance of losing on stage and in front of the world.

Losing is for losers,and The Donald is a winner.
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Nice, ain't she?

Just makes you want to jump on the Trump bandwagon so you can be more like she is.   ^-^

I think as has already been mentioned..... some of the behavior by some of the Trump fans has probably turned off more potential voters than Trump himself has.  Or maybe it's a toss-up.   Either way, they are doing their side no favors.
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yep, if he drops out he'll be the bad guy. If his goal is to discredit the conservative wing he'll need to lose to be able to blame them.

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He has enough love for himself that he doesn't need your love. What he NEEDS is to feel smarter and superior to everyone else,and what better way to accomplish that than to suddenly resign and then spend the rest of his life bragging about how "I COULD have been the president of the US if I had wanted,but I decided the job was beneath me,so I stepped down."


With The Donald,it is all about "Me,me,ME,DAMMIT!" There is no one else of importance.
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I think as has already been mentioned..... some of the behavior by some of the Trump fans has probably turned off more potential voters than Trump himself has.  Or maybe it's a toss-up.   Either way, they are doing their side no favors.

Indeed.

And after they have sullied their reputations, as have the pundits who jumped on the Trump bandwagon, stupidly, they won't recover whether he wins or loses.

If he loses, they're losers like he is.  If he wins, they have to live with the shame of helping him get elected and ruining what's left of the country.

The pundits and the zealots will both be losers either way.
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Indeed.

And after they have sullied their reputations, as have the pundits who jumped on the Trump bandwagon, stupidly, they won't recover whether he wins or loses.

If he loses, they're losers like he is.  If he wins, they have to live with the shame of helping him get elected and ruining what's left of the country.

The pundits and the zealots will both be losers either way.

We're all going to lose in this round.  The only question is how much.

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@skeeter  @Suppressed

He has enough love for himself that he doesn't need your love. What he NEEDS is to feel smarter and superior to everyone else,and what better way to accomplish that than to suddenly resign and then spend the rest of his life bragging about how "I COULD have been the president of the US if I had wanted,but I decided the job was beneath me,so I stepped down."


With The Donald,it is all about "Me,me,ME,DAMMIT!" There is no one else of importance.

I'm afraid you're spot-on there.   And the nation be damned, despite his mantra of "Make America Great Again" which he stole from Reagan.

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