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By Ariana Eunjung Cha August 23 at 5:27 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/08/23/u-s-lawmakers-demand-investigation-of-100-price-hike-of-life-saving-epipens/



EpiPen maker Mylan has become the new boogeyman of the pharmaceutical industry.

Following complaints from consumers that the company had hiked the price of the emergency auto-injector by $100 in recent months for no obvious reason, members of Congress are calling for an investigation. The price has increased 450 percent since 2004, when a dose cost $100 in today's dollars, to its current price of more than $600. Many consumers hadn't noticed the gradual rise in price, however, because the company often only added in 9 to 15 percent each time and insurance companies had made up the difference. But with recent changes in the deductible structure and co-pays for some health plans that have put more of the cost for drugs on consumers, many families have been hit with sticker shock.

Amie Vialet De Montbel, for instance, found that the two 2-packs of EpiPens she needed for her son with a milk allergy would cost $1,212. “I don’t even pay that much for my mortgage," she told Stat News. She left without buying the medicine. Likewise Jackie Davis of Newport News, Va. was quoted $1,500 for three 2-packs of EpiPens  -- and that price includes a discount, according to USA Today. "For any kind of necessary medicine, you shouldn't have to pay anything," Davis said.

The prescription-only EpiPen delivers a rapid shot of epinephrine, a medication that can counteract a severe allergic reaction. It is standard issue for millions of Americans. Many school systems stockpile it, and any parent who has a child with a peanut allergy usually has several stashed at their homes and in various purses and backpacks.

The medication itself isn’t expensive. Analysts calculate that the dosage contained in a single pen is worth about $1. It’s the company’s proprietary pen injector that makes up the bulk of the cost. A few years ago, it looked as though there might be something better out there — Sanofi’s Auvi-Q, which talks (yes, literally talks!) to you and walks you through how to administer the product in real time — but the company got caught up in a recall about whether its devices were actually delivering the right dosage.

The recall was voluntary and prompted by reports of suspected device malfunction. None of the incidents was confirmed but Sanofi said it was concerned enough to urge consumers to report any issues to the Food and Drug Administration and take the products off the market.

So now there’s only the EpiPen and Adrenaclick, a generic version. The Adrenaclick is much cheaper. Consumer Reports says it found the device for $142 at Walmart and Sam’s Club with a coupon, as opposed to the current $600 to $700 price for EpiPens.

But many doctors are reluctant to recommend the generic version because the steps you have to take to inject the drug are different, and most people, including teachers and nurses, are trained on EpiPens. You wouldn’t want them fumbling around for directions in an emergency when seconds could matter.

So this is why Mylan now finds itself in the same position that Martin Shkreli, the “pharma bro” formerly of Turing Pharmaceuticals, was in almost a year ago when lawmakers made his company an example of everything that has gone wrong with drug pricing. As chief executive of the company, Shkreli had raised the price of the drug Daraprim, which is used to treat a parasitic infection in patients with conditions such as HIV/AIDS and cancer, from $18 to $750 — or more than 4,000 percent, virtually overnight.

Among the members of Congress who have weighed in this time are Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), who wrote in a letter that the cost is so high that it has forced “some first responders to consider making their own kits with epinephrine vials and syringes.”

“I am concerned that the substantial price increase could limit access to a much-needed medication. In addition, it could create an unsafe situation for patients as people, untrained in medical procedures, are incentivized to make their own kits from raw materials,” he said.

Separately, Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) has called on the Federal Trade Commission to look into the company’s competitive practices. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont tweeted his outrage:

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/766263360933466112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Mylan hasn’t commented specifically about its pricing strategy but said in a statement that it is “proud of the programs which we have implemented over the past years to help support access to treatment,” such as savings cards and assistance programs for patients and schools.

“With changes in the healthcare insurance landscape, an increasing number of people and families are enrolled in high deductible health plans, and deductible amounts continue to rise. This shift has presented new challenges for consumers, and they are bearing more of the cost. This change to the industry is not an easy challenge to address, but we recognize the need and are committed to working with customers and payors to find solutions to meet the needs of the patients and families we serve,” the company said.

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Stories like this, and behavior of such companies make the onslaught towards socialized medicine inevitable.

This is corporate greed, plain and simple.

If it is not, tell me what it is...   "free" enterprise....?

This makes it more and more difficult to justify a return to a "privatized" healthcare system.

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Why Did Mylan Hike EpiPen Prices 400%? Because They Could
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OH! OH! Another investigation!  Can't tell you how thrilled I am!!! /s
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The CEO's father is a Democrat Senator

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 "For any kind of necessary medicine, you shouldn't have to pay anything," Davis said.

Obviously a supporter of slavery and/or theft as the only way you can get something without paying for it is to force someone to work for free or steal it from someone else.  Unfortunatly, that is not taught today nor does the media call someone out when they make stupid statements like this.

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Here's an idea: get rid of the government-protected monopoly grant of prescription. Let these things get sold on the open market.

The price will drop, guaranteed.

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This is a perfect example of capitalism out of control and why guys like Bernie Sanders have become popular.

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This is a perfect example of capitalism out of control and why guys like Bernie Sanders have become popular.

Ridiculously idiotic post. What's capitalistic about prescription drug regulation? It's the government mandating what you can and cannot buy.

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What's capitalistic about prescription drug regulation? It's the government mandating what you can and cannot buy.

It's not a regulation issue, and it's certainly not "capitalism".  Rather, the underlying issue seems to be that the rising prices have been absorbed by insurance companies for years, and thus were not noticed by the actual users.

What's happening here is that changes in insurance coverage have assigned the true price of the drug to consumers.

Insurance does a lot of good things, but one of the major difficulties with insurance is that it masks the true cost of medical care.  The primary "market forces" at work on companies like Mylan come through the formularies that are approved by the corporations that contract with the insurance companies -- it's essentially a 3rd-hand market force, at best.

What Mylan has done, is gamed the system for a long time, and were only exposed when the rules of the game changed.

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Stories like this, and behavior of such companies make the onslaught towards socialized medicine inevitable.

This is corporate greed, plain and simple.

If it is not, tell me what it is...   "free" enterprise....?

This makes it more and more difficult to justify a return to a "privatized" healthcare system.

Yeah,but there has to be balance. NEVER forget that the purpose of a corporation is to make a profit for the investors that buy the stock. Public interest,the good of mankind,what's good for America,NOTHING else takes precedence.  This is what they have been teaching in schools like Harvard Business for decades now,and it is now considered to be The Gospel when it comes to business.

Now,what happens when you pass laws that cut into corporate profits? The answer is,"They find something else to manufacture that they can make more profit from making and selling." Which means,soon nobody will be making insulin if the goobermint gets too dictatorial with price controls.

Is the answer to have the goobermint go into competition with corporations and make insulin at affordable prices,or even for free?

That was the system used in communist countries for decades. Just look at how wonderfully it worked there. Yeltsin had to go to West Germany for a heart bypass operation because it wasn't done in Russia.

On the other hand,no country can survive as a free country without some control over the corporations. Naturally enough,corporations and the people that own and control them don't like that and resist it. THIS is why both the Dims and the alleged Republicans have been bribed and blackmailed by uber wealthy financiers like Soros,and why we are headed towards a fascist police state right now.

What we MUST do to survive as a free country is to go back to the traditional Laissez faire Capitalist System that we had before the Fascists took over and eliminated even that minimal control.

People,mostly billionaires,will be screaming "unfair!",but life is unfair and no system is perfect. Some are clearly better at serving the needs of the majority,though.
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Ridiculously idiotic post. What's capitalistic about prescription drug regulation? It's the government mandating what you can and cannot buy.

Post rings true. Going from $100 to $600 in a few years is what is idiotic.

Drug companies are buying out other companies and stopping making the competitions meds so they can raise the price of theirs look it up sport. .. One reason why many generics over the last few years have gone from $4-5 per month to $40 per month.

Not all gov't mandating and regulations have brought this mess. 

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It's not a regulation issue, and it's certainly not "capitalism".  Rather, the underlying issue seems to be that the rising prices have been absorbed by insurance companies for years, and thus were not noticed by the actual users.

What's happening here is that changes in insurance coverage have assigned the true price of the drug to consumers.

Insurance does a lot of good things, but one of the major difficulties with insurance is that it masks the true cost of medical care.  The primary "market forces" at work on companies like Mylan come through the formularies that are approved by the corporations that contract with the insurance companies -- it's essentially a 3rd-hand market force, at best.

What Mylan has done, is gamed the system for a long time, and were only exposed when the rules of the game changed.

 :amen:  :amen: and  :amen: 

ONLY when consumers are put back directly in touch with costs will the problem begin to be solved and not until then!
 
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Stories like this, and behavior of such companies make the onslaught towards socialized medicine inevitable.

This is corporate greed, plain and simple.

If it is not, tell me what it is...   "free" enterprise....?

This makes it more and more difficult to justify a return to a "privatized" healthcare system.

You are 100% not seeing this for what it is.  Insurance is covering the cost... OF COURSE makers of toilet seats will mark up anything speced for "the gubmint".

As long as the whole fraudulent concept of "Health Care Insurance" exists, people won't care what is charged, so long as they don't have to pay it.

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As long as the whole fraudulent concept of "Health Care Insurance" exists, people won't care what is charged, so long as they don't have to pay it.

Well, now, that's just a bit silly.


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If you make a product that is designed to save people's lives and it ever fails to do so, you are going to end up in court and it will be expensive. I think that was the issue with the voluntary recall for the other company. They saw the lawyers lining up.
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It's not a regulation issue, and it's certainly not "capitalism".  Rather, the underlying issue seems to be that the rising prices have been absorbed by insurance companies for years, and thus were not noticed by the actual users.

What's happening here is that changes in insurance coverage have assigned the true price of the drug to consumers.

Insurance does a lot of good things, but one of the major difficulties with insurance is that it masks the true cost of medical care.  The primary "market forces" at work on companies like Mylan come through the formularies that are approved by the corporations that contract with the insurance companies -- it's essentially a 3rd-hand market force, at best.

What Mylan has done, is gamed the system for a long time, and were only exposed when the rules of the game changed.

This.

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Mylan expands EpiPen cost-cutting programs after charges of price gouging
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/25/mylan-expands-epipen-cost-cutting-programs-after-charges-of-price-gouging.html
8/25/2016

Mylan on Thursday announced plans to boost access to its EpiPen Auto-Injector by expanding already existing programs for patients who are facing higher out-of-pocket costs.

The price of the EpiPen, a life-saving medication and delivery system for people with severe allergies, has increased more than 400 percent in the past decade.

Shares of Mylan rose more than 3 percent in premarket trading Thursday following the announcement. (Get the latest quote here.) With the company under pressure from members of Congress and Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton, the stock lost 5.4 percent of its value on Wednesday.

The company is reducing the cost of EpiPens through the use of a savings card that will cover up to $300 for the EpiPen 2-Pak.

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It's not a regulation issue, and it's certainly not "capitalism".  Rather, the underlying issue seems to be that the rising prices have been absorbed by insurance companies for years, and thus were not noticed by the actual users.

What's happening here is that changes in insurance coverage have assigned the true price of the drug to consumers.

Insurance does a lot of good things, but one of the major difficulties with insurance is that it masks the true cost of medical care.  The primary "market forces" at work on companies like Mylan come through the formularies that are approved by the corporations that contract with the insurance companies -- it's essentially a 3rd-hand market force, at best.

What Mylan has done, is gamed the system for a long time, and were only exposed when the rules of the game changed.

It's also a regulatory issue because the FDA has consistently refused to approve any competing products, thereby guaranteeing Mylan a monopoly.  The price increases are simply an illustration of monopoly pricing, and a poster child for why monopoly busting and anti-trust laws do have a basic, useful, purpose.

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It's also a regulatory issue because the FDA has consistently refused to approve any competing products, thereby guaranteeing Mylan a monopoly.  The price increases are simply an illustration of monopoly pricing, and a poster child for why monopoly busting and anti-trust laws do have a basic, useful, purpose.

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So now there’s only the EpiPen and Adrenaclick, a generic version. The Adrenaclick is much cheaper. Consumer Reports says it found the device for $142 at Walmart and Sam’s Club with a coupon, as opposed to the current $600 to $700 price for EpiPens.
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Mylan expands EpiPen cost-cutting programs after charges of price gouging
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/25/mylan-expands-epipen-cost-cutting-programs-after-charges-of-price-gouging.html
8/25/2016


Shares of Mylan rose more than 3 percent in premarket trading Thursday following the announcement. (Get the latest quote here.) With the company under pressure from members of Congress and Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton, the stock lost 5.4 percent of its value on Wednesday.

The company is reducing the cost of EpiPens through the use of a savings card that will cover up to $300 for the EpiPen 2-Pak.

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Smart move. It allows them to appear to be backing off on their price gouging,while actually not doing anything at all. Once the heat dies down,the EpiPen is still the same price,and they can start gradually phasing out the coupons. By that time it will be "old news" and the media,that has the attention span of a chipmunk,will consider it to be old news and report it deep in Section B as a space filler. People not directly affected by it will glance at it casually and skip right past it because "I read this before and know all about it."

Hell,they will probably give it a month or so after easing out the coupons,and raise prices to make up for the profit losses while doing the Public Relations coupon thing.
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It's also a regulatory issue because the FDA has consistently refused to approve any competing products, thereby guaranteeing Mylan a monopoly.  The price increases are simply an illustration of monopoly pricing, and a poster child for why monopoly busting and anti-trust laws do have a basic, useful, purpose.

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So now there’s only the EpiPen and Adrenaclick, a generic version. The Adrenaclick is much cheaper. Consumer Reports says it found the device for $142 at Walmart and Sam’s Club with a coupon, as opposed to the current $600 to $700 price for EpiPens.


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The people in Adrenaclick responsible for advertising and public relations need to be fired for not already having a massive advertising program in place on teebee highlighing their product and it's price while comparing it to the EpiPen.

Hell,the corporate board should be fired for overlooking something so obvious that even *I* see the profits in it. Their stock prices would blow up within a week,making them all a BUNCH of money from the stock they already own. If I had a couple of dollars,even I would be tempted to buy some of their stock.

Make the system work like it's supposed to work,and have competition establish the prices of their products.
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Smart move. It allows them to appear to be backing off on their price gouging,while actually not doing anything at all. Once the heat dies down,the EpiPen is still the same price,and they can start gradually phasing out the coupons. By that time it will be "old news" and the media,that has the attention span of a chipmunk,will consider it to be old news and report it deep in Section B as a space filler. People not directly affected by it will glance at it casually and skip right past it because "I read this before and know all about it."

Hell,they will probably give it a month or so after easing out the coupons,and raise prices to make up for the profit losses while doing the Public Relations coupon thing.

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But where the costs are funneled through the federal mandated insurance programs, the high price will remain?

And guess where some of that money goes?

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,222121.0.html


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Further, the two networks and NBC have collectively neglected to reveal that Mylan Pharmaceuticals has partnered in the past for medical aid with the Clinton Foundation and given money as well to the scandal-ridden foundation.
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But where the costs are funneled through the federal mandated insurance programs, the high price will remain?<<

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Almost certainly. Coupons are for individuals,not institutions such as insurance companies and government payees such as medicare/medicaid.  I had totally overlooked that aspect of the coupon deals. Thank you for pointing it out.


And guess where some of that money goes?

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,222121.0.html<<

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