Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities

[sinkspur]

The Federal government is already heavily involved in the nations schools, Trump is looking to reduce that role significantly.

Eliminating Common Core would be a big step in that direction.

Ending teacher tenure would be another.

Do you even read what you write?  First you say Trump is looking to reduce the fed's role in schools.

In the very next sentence you say he wants to end Common Core and teacher tenure, which would be increasing the fed role in local schools.

Which is it?

[Longmire]

To make a claim that he, as President, would work to end Common Core, IS in violation of the Federal law which forbids Federal interference with State school curricula, IS an expansion of Federal authority, and a violation of the principles of Federalism involved in the creation and voluntary adoption of Common Core by participating States.

Well...I don't believe that nonsense for one second.

Ted Cruz on repealing Common Core:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzjCTHB_piU#t=32

[Luis Gonzalez]

The Federal government is already heavily involved in the nations schools, Trump is looking to reduce that role significantly.

Eliminating Common Core would be a big step in that direction.

Ending teacher tenure would be another.

Whatever State it is that you live in can refuse to accept Federal funding of its schools. It is not mandatory to accept it. Demand that your State stop accepting Federal money.

Jeb Bush effectively ended teacher tenure in Florida by signing the nation's first school voucher program and broke the teachers' union control on the State's education system by helping created the State's charter school program.

IOW... Jeb was a champion of State and local control of schools.

[Longmire]

Do you even read what you write?  First you say Trump is looking to reduce the fed's role in schools.

In the very next sentence you say he wants to end Common Core and teacher tenure, which would be increasing the fed role in local schools.

Ending Common Core is not increasing the role of the Federal government in schools. That's just Bushshit.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Well...I don't believe that nonsense for one second.

Ted Cruz on repealing Common Core:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzjCTHB_piU#t=32

You can believe that the. earth is flat and that the Sun revolves around it if you want to. It doesn't make the facts I posted less factual.

That Cruz thinks the same as Trump just makes them both wrong together.

How can you argue that having the Federal government force a State to end Program that the State adopted voluntarily be anything BUT a violation of the principles of Federalism and of the applicable Federal laws which forbid the Federal government from interfering with the States decision on school curriculum choices?

[RoosGirl]

Conservative or liberal doesn't and won't matter until minorities decide that being educated isn't "acting white" and a bad thing.

[Wingnut]

Teach a person to fish and he can feed himself and family for life.  Give a person an EBT card, Section 8 housing, a welfare check, an Obama phone and a six pack of beer, they will vote 100% Democrat the rest of their lives.

Trump can't and won't change that.  Any further discussion on the subject is an exercise in futility.

[Oceander]

How will he do that?  By pouring billions of dollars of federal money into the inner cities?  Isn't that what liberals have been doing for decades?

[Longmire]

Whatever State it is that you live in can refuse to accept Federal funding of its schools.

I'd rather demand the Federal government get out of school funding business, seems easier to go after the pusher than the addict.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Ending Common Core is not increasing the role of the Federal government in schools. That's just Bushshit.

Bushit is arguing that having the Federal government force a State that voluntarily adopted the standard to drop it is not an increase in the Federal control of State school system, and a violation of both Federal laws and the core conservative value of Federalism.

[Luis Gonzalez]

I'd rather demand the Federal government get out of school funding business, seems easier to go after the pusher than the addict.

Then demand that your State refuse Federal funding. It is not mandatory to accept it.

[sinkspur]

Ending Common Core is not increasing the role of the Federal government in schools. That's just Bushshit.

Common Core is a STATE curriculum.  Involving the feds AT ALL in anything having to do with it is the very definition of federal involvement  in local schools.

[NavyCanDo]

Question is, why is Trump trying so hard at this late stage in the election process to capture the black and inner city vote which will vote Democrat no matter how much effort is applied? Perhaps he has already tapped out the conservative vote giving up on the NeverTumps

[Longmire]

How can you argue that having the Federal government force a State to end Program that the State adopted voluntarily be anything BUT a violation of the principles of Federalism and of the applicable Federal laws which forbid the Federal government from interfering with the States decision on school curriculum choices?

Nothing you've written is required to get rid of Common Core.

All the Federal government have to do is stop providing incentives to those states who adopt it and Common Core will die a natural death.

[Longmire]

Then demand that your State refuse Federal funding. It is not mandatory to accept it.

I'd rather the Fed Gov. stop providing the incentives because its a more effective way to kill the program.

[sinkspur]

Question is, why is Trump trying so hard at this late stage in the election process to capture the black and inner city vote which will vote Democrat no matter how much effort is applied? Perhaps he has already tapped out the conservative vote giving up on the NeverTumps

This is Conway.  She thinks it softens his image to tell blacks they all live in poverty, their schools suck, and they're all out of work.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Clearly Trump will help the matter, these cities suffer under Democratic leadership.

Exactly right.  Conservatives have been saying this for years ... albeit to each other.

The only thing that's new here is that Donald Trump is saying it into a microphone...and means it.

Godspeed Mr. Trump.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Nothing you've written is required to get rid of Common Core.

All the Federal government have to do is stop providing incentives to those states who adopt it and Common Core will die a natural death.

In 2013 US High School students failed to crack the global top 20 in math, reading, and science proficiency. In fact, we ranked 36th in the world.

You want to go back to the status quo which got us to that point and stop any attempt at improving those numbers?

Is that your goal?

Why get rid of Common Core, an attempt by the States at improving student performance?

Why not give the States that voluntarily adopted the standard enough time to see f they can get it to improve their students' performance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4uRHHUctY0

[Right_in_Virginia]

Question is, why is Trump trying so hard at this late stage in the election process to capture the black and inner city vote which will vote Democrat no matter how much effort is applied?

Because he's speaking the truth ... and doing what no Republican POTUS candidate has had the guts to do--asking for their vote--asking for them to turn away from the leadership that has caused so many of the inner city's problems and choose new leadership.

The question for me is: Why are you not cheering him on?  Haven't we wanted a candidate to do just this for years?

[Oceander]

Because he's speaking the truth ... and doing what no Republican POTUS candidate has had the guts to do--asking for their vote--asking for them to turn away from the leadership that has caused so many of the inner city's problems and choose new leadership.

The question for me is: Why are you not cheering him on?  Haven't we wanted a candidate to do just this for years?

A lying blowhard who thinks that presidential elections are like reality TV?  No, that's not the sort of candidate we've ever wanted.

[sinkspur]

Because he's speaking the truth ... and doing what no Republican POTUS candidate has had the guts to do--asking for their vote--asking for them to turn away from the leadership that has caused so many of the inner city's problems and choose new leadership.

The question for me is: Why are you not cheering him on?  Haven't we wanted a candidate to do just this for years?

Bush woos black vote for 2000 election

https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/nov/27/uselections2000.usa

As for Trump:

[XenaLee]

He has not been consistent at all on those things. In fact he once flip-flopped on common core during a 3-minute speech in which he said "we're keeping common core" after calling it horrendous. lol. He stated that education was one of the top 3 responsibilities of the federal government at a nationally televised townhall or debate or something.

He has been consistent on nothing.

It's like they (Trump supporters) are not even paying attention to what he says from one minute to the next re: his flip flops and reversions on positions.  Almost like they have memorized everything on the Trump website and now just tune him and what he says completely out.  Ah-mazing cognitive dissonance.

[geronl]

Whatever State it is that you live in can refuse to accept Federal funding of its schools. It is not mandatory to accept it. Demand that your State stop accepting Federal money.

Congress and President should end the federal funding of schools, period

[Oceander]

Congress and President should end the federal funding of schools, period

What does the president have to do with it?  Congress is the one who appropriates federal funds last I heard.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Congress and President should end the federal funding of schools, period

Agreed.

But when solutions are available at the State level, why not make that the goal rather than fighting a battle that actually empowers the Federal government, rather than one that takes power away from them by giving the States control?