'Never Trumpers' Can't Be Pleased

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'Never Trumpers' Can't Be Pleased

http://www.newsmax.com/Murdock/cruz-education-healthcare-romney/2016/08/12/id/743395/

Deroy Murdock
Friday, 12 Aug 2016 02:08 PM


Short of diving head-first from atop his eponymous tower, Donald J. Trump seems unable to satisfy the Never Trump crowd.

Perhaps the most aggravating thing about Trump’s mortal enemies on the right — many of whom I have known and admired for decades — is that they refuse to take “yes” for an answer.

Former Republican nominee Mitt Romney, Sen. Ted Cruz, columnist George Will, and others complain that Trump is a non-conservative, crypto-Democrat — Hillary Clinton with orange hair.

No doubt, Trump’s trade policies violate conservative doctrine on the free exchange of goods and services across borders. Also, Trump’s frequent inability to mute his internal monologue maddens even his most avid supporters.

However, on policy issues and political judgments, Trump has done the right thing — only to hear catcalls from the very conservatives who should welcome his major strides in their direction.

{.. snip ..  See URL for great lists of all conservative positions that Trump has taken .. }

[unknown]

Alas, the Never Trumpniks know full well that an independent alternative to Trump would split the right and hand the Democrats the presidency.

[ABX]

And some wonder why we oppose not just Trump, but the attitudes he is bringing up so strongly. Read this one again:

Perhaps the most aggravating thing about Trump’s mortal enemies on the right — many of whom I have known and admired for decades — is that they refuse to take “yes” for an answer.

What an extreme case of entitlement mentality, as though loyalty is required or obligated to instead of earned. They told us to hold our nose and vote for McCain, we did. They told us to hold our nose and vote for Romney, and we did. But there is a point where we can't hold our nose any longer.

We the people have ZERO obligation of loyalty to any political party. When it comes to politics, we should be loyal to our values, conscience, faith, and the Constitution.

If they don't like people aren't loyal to them, they should work on their sales pitch because right now, it is failing.

[unknown]

A great and well-written article.

on policy issues and political judgments, Trump has done the right thing — only to hear catcalls from the very conservatives who should welcome his major strides in their direction.

This is so true.

The leftists liberal democrats, those that call themselves conservatives, they out themselves as the liberals they are when they purposefully ignore Trumps conservative policies. Using all the leftists liberal democrat strategies, strategies and tactics that are shown very clearly in the msm, they resort to name-calling, and character assassination; and never policy discussion.

Oh well, it the TRUTH that must be proclaimed. All about the TRUTH. Conservative policies such as PRO-LIFE SCOTUS nominations. But no. The liberals want Hillary to win so she can promote baby killing, and the liberals want this. Well, I don't want this. I will stand for TRUTH and PRO-LIFE.

[skeeter]

Which of the august list of economists who helped Trump formulate his economic policies came up with the idea to double the amount of money Hillary promised for "infrastructure spending"?

Perhaps the NeverTrumpers just don't trust Donald.

[Applewood]

"Alas, the Never Trumpniks know full well that an independent alternative to Trump would split the right and hand the Democrats the presidency."

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This is a scare tactic being used by Trump supporters against anyone not on the Trump Train, and it doesn't wash.  Should Hillary win, it will be because people willingly voted for her, not because people didn't vote for Trump.  I have spoken to a number of people who say they will vote for Hillary even though they don't like her.  Their reasoning appears to be -- with Hillary they know what they're getting.  With Trump, they don't.  And that uncertainty scares them.  They don't trust Trump.  I don't like their reasoning,  but I believe I understand it. 

Trump has changed his mind, outright lied and bullied enough people that voters are running away from him in droves.  No amount of "regret" or "apologies" is going to persuade those voters to reconsider.  Trump has lost their trust and he isn't getting it back.

[Suppressed]

Conservative policies such as PRO-LIFE SCOTUS nominations.

Which he's backed away from.

[Oceander]

Why should I vote for someone who is a known - and self-admitted - liar?  Trump simply cannot be trusted to tell the truth.  He voluntarily blew his trustworthiness a long time ago and once your reputation is gone, it's very difficult to get it back.

Trump is a liar and everything he's promised, from appointing conservative Supreme Court justices to shutting down immigration, is a lie, so-called "truthful hyperbole" designed solely to get the marks emotionally invested in the project, and not an actual statement of what he will do, or can do.

[Silver Pines]

"Mortal enemies on the right"...such breathless hyperbole.  I guess that's how it must seem to the hardcore Trump supporter when faced with someone who refuses to bow the knee to the master.

Trump can stop trying to satisfy me.  NeverTrump means there's not a chance I'll support him.  Murdock's righteous indignation that I insist on maintaining control of my own vote is laughable.  He has no right to demand support for his candidate. 

"Malcontents", LOL.

[Silver Pines]

A great and well-written article.

Hardly.  It's a pouty, foot-stamping tantrum.

[geronl]

I do not vote for liberal New Yorkers. Period.

There is nothing conservative or genuine about Trump, I detest him.

[ABX]

This is a scare tactic being used by Trump supporters against anyone not on the Trump Train, and it doesn't wash. .....

A vast majority of the 'selling' techniques being used by Trump and those trying to convince me to support Trump are classic manipulative techniques that hucksters resort to so you don't look at the actual value of the product. You see things like false dichotomies, guilt tripping, threats, go along with the crowd, and other techniques used in classic used car salesmen techniques, third world propagandists, and hucksters of MLMs. These type of techniques to many of us, are just one more red flag that what we are being sold is not only false, it is downright dangerous.

If the product they were selling was worth buying, they wouldn't need to resort to these tactics.

[musiclady]

Calling political opponents "mortal enemies" is a tactic of the left.

Obama used it about Republicans, and Trump's people are one-upping Obama, and calling Conservatives "mortal enemies."

What a shameful bit of hyperbolic nonsense.

No WONDER rational people aren't supporting Trump.

[ABX]

This is interesting. Not that I'm all tinfoil hat about the CFR or anything, but the author who is trying to manipulate us and sell us to support Trump, is a Council on Foreign Relations member and author.
http://www.cfr.org/search/?Ntt=+Deroy+Murdock&submit.x=13&submit.y=11

Is Trump the new CFR candidate?

[geronl]

They are always hypocrites. They attacked Cruz for giving soccer balls to kids while Trump hands out Play-Doh it's "Presidential" somehow.

I'm tired of people pretending we don't what Trump will do as President, we do know. He will keep being the sleazy, vile, vulgar, con-man and rip-off artist he has always been.

[rodamala]

I think I, for one "Never Trumper", am quite easy to please.

1) Bacon sammiches.
2) Kitteh pitchers.
3) Firm-feelin' wymin.

Any of those 3, really.

Truck Fump.

[Doug Loss]

Oh well, it the TRUTH that must be proclaimed. All about the TRUTH. Conservative policies such as PRO-LIFE SCOTUS nominations. But no. The liberals want Hillary to win so she can promote baby killing, and the liberals want this. Well, I don't want this. I will stand for TRUTH and PRO-LIFE.

Of course, none of that is actually true.  Your problem is that you actually believe whatever is the latest thing Trump has said.  We are a bit more discerning and realize that when someone changes his mind and "positions" so frequently and seemingly randomly, those "positions" were never seriously held in the first place.  Really, nothing he says can be trusted to be his position the next day.  And that's why we can never vote for him--he has no principles beyond, "Hey, look at ME!"

[unknown]

 
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[Cripplecreek]

I'm not interested in being "pleased".

I'm interested in constitutional governance.

Give me liberty or give me death.

[Vulcan]

I do not vote for liberal New Yorkers. Period.

Neither do I.   There is, however, a certain type who does.

[Vulcan]

"Mortal enemies on the right"...such breathless hyperbole.  I guess that's how it must seem to the hardcore Trump supporter when faced with someone who refuses to bow the knee to the master.

Trump can stop trying to satisfy me.  NeverTrump means there's not a chance I'll support him.  Murdock's righteous indignation that I insist on maintaining control of my own vote is laughable.  He has no right to demand support for his candidate. 

"Malcontents", LOL.

Everyone here could vote for the orange liberal idiot and he would still lose because he's in it to help Hillary win.

I refuse to be a part of that. 

[Chosen Daughter]

Which he's backed away from.

 



Come on that was within the campaign time frame.  Made the comments in August 2015.  Announced candidacy June 2015.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Short of diving head-first from atop his eponymous tower, Donald J. Trump seems unable to satisfy the Never Trump crowd.

That is not true.  If he puts on a dress, juggles 3 chainsaws, while singing "How much is that doggy in the window" I will vote for him...oh...he's also got to do it while levitating 3 feet above a vat of bubbling lava.  I've already texted him on my voting requirements, so you don't have to interrupt him while you're cuddling.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I changed my mind.  I would like to go with that first option...the swan-dive.

[libertybele]

I'm still waiting for the Trumpsters to give me one good legitimate reason to vote for Trump; and 'no' he's not Hillary doesn't count.