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N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« on: August 15, 2016, 04:06:51 pm »
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/lovett-n-y-conservative-party-endorse-donald-trump-article-1.2751025?cid=bitly

by Ken Lovett
August 15, 2016

"I'm sure there may be some committeemen who will abstain or vote against him, but I believe he's going to overwhelmingly get the Conservative Party support," said state party chairman Michael Long.

"When you look at the alternative, while Donald sometimes is inartful in how he expresses himself or his point of view, clearly there is no comparison with Hillary Clinton when you give thought to the economy, his economic plan, or the appointment of Supreme Court justices."

 He dismissed many GOPers and conservatives who are decrying the thought of a Trump presidency as "part of the establishment ... who would rather see Hillary in the White House so they can continue to do business." But he conceded that "some of the concerns from others are sincere."

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Re: N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2016, 04:12:49 pm »
Background:

The Conservative Party is one of the five "fusion parties" that can, and often do, nominate candidates on other party lines. The sum total of all lines are what each candidate counts as their total. (There are eight with automatic access; the three that usually put up their own names are the Democrat, Republican and Green parties. The others are the Working Familes Party, the labor union-backed party that supports Democrats; the Independence Party, a rapidly-fading party that usually nominates whoever will get them the most votes; and the Reform and Women's Equality parties, which are dummy lines for the GOP and Dems, respectively.)

The CP is traditionally the party of conservative conscience: usually they endorse the Republican, but sometimes they'll put up their own candidate if the nominee is too liberal, and in local races, they may occasionally cross-endorse a Democrat.

If there were a viable candidate to put against Clinton and Trump, the CP would likely seriously consider it.
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Re: N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2016, 08:02:42 pm »
and loses any credibility it ever had

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Re: N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2016, 12:11:14 am »
NY and conservative.....

Two words that just don't go together.
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Re: N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2016, 12:19:16 am »
Background:

The Conservative Party is one of the five "fusion parties" that can, and often do, nominate candidates on other party lines. The sum total of all lines are what each candidate counts as their total. (There are eight with automatic access; the three that usually put up their own names are the Democrat, Republican and Green parties. The others are the Working Familes Party, the labor union-backed party that supports Democrats; the Independence Party, a rapidly-fading party that usually nominates whoever will get them the most votes; and the Reform and Women's Equality parties, which are dummy lines for the GOP and Dems, respectively.)

The CP is traditionally the party of conservative conscience: usually they endorse the Republican, but sometimes they'll put up their own candidate if the nominee is too liberal, and in local races, they may occasionally cross-endorse a Democrat.

If there were a viable candidate to put against Clinton and Trump, the CP would likely seriously consider it.

There's been a candidate too liberal for them for them in the past that they have nokinated their own their own candidate and yet they endorse Trump?  LOL. New York values?  Received a Trump 'donation'? The price of doing business in NY?

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Re: N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2016, 12:22:41 am »


Thank you, great article.



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I won't be here after the election and vote.

If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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Re: N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2016, 12:46:06 am »
I once heard someone say this many years ago on Bill Buckley's show:

New York has four parties: Conservative, Republican, Democratic, and Liberal.

The Conservative Party is really the Republican Party.

The Republican Party is really the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party is really the Liberal Party.

The Liberal Party is really the Socialist Workers Party.

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Re: N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2016, 12:49:49 am »
I once heard someone say this many years ago on Bill Buckley's show:

New York has four parties: Conservative, Republican, Democratic, and Liberal.

The Conservative Party is really the Republican Party.

The Republican Party is really the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party is really the Liberal Party.

The Liberal Party is really the Socialist Workers Party.
And the Socialist Workers Party is a couple of kooks in New York City that don't even try to get onto the ballot anymore.
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Re: N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2016, 12:54:11 am »
Background:

The Conservative Party is one of the five "fusion parties" that can, and often do, nominate candidates on other party lines. The sum total of all lines are what each candidate counts as their total. (There are eight with automatic access; the three that usually put up their own names are the Democrat, Republican and Green parties. The others are the Working Familes Party, the labor union-backed party that supports Democrats; the Independence Party, a rapidly-fading party that usually nominates whoever will get them the most votes; and the Reform and Women's Equality parties, which are dummy lines for the GOP and Dems, respectively.)

The CP is traditionally the party of conservative conscience: usually they endorse the Republican, but sometimes they'll put up their own candidate if the nominee is too liberal, and in local races, they may occasionally cross-endorse a Democrat.

If there were a viable candidate to put against Clinton and Trump, the CP would likely seriously consider it.

Does anyone know when was the last time they endorsed someone other than the Republican nominee for President?  Who exactly was to "liberal".

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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2016, 07:26:10 am »



Does anyone know when was the last time they endorsed someone other than the Republican nominee for President?  Who exactly was to "liberal".

For President they have always endorsed the GOP candidate

In the 2006 Senate race (opposite Hillary) the NY Conservative Party actively worked to keep the GOP from nominating Jeanine Pirro, a liberal Republican. Instead Pirro withdrew and ran for state AG (The NYCP endorsed that) and lost to Andrew Cuomo.

In 2008 they endorsed McCain-Palin

In 2010 for Governor the NYCP Chairman picked Lazio over Carl Paladino...

Some of these names might ring a bell. Notice both Pirro and Paladino are hot n heavy for liberal New Yorker Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_History_of_the_Conservative_Party_of_New_York_State
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Re: N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2016, 12:10:17 am »
Does anyone know when was the last time they endorsed someone other than the Republican nominee for President?  Who exactly was to "liberal".
For a statewide race, that was most recently 2004. They nominated Marilyn O'Grady for U.S. Senate against Chuck Schumer over Howard Mills because Mills was for same-sex marriage. They knew it was pretty much a lost cause (Schumer's extremely good at politicking in this state) but they hoped to get more votes than Mills did anyway. It didn't work out so well: Mills got 24% and O'Grady a mere 3%.

They've had some successes, quite a few considering they're a third party. James Buckley, William F.'s brother, won a Senate seat using that line alone in the 1970s, unseating Charles Goodell, the father of NFL commissioner Roger. They very nearly unseated the GOP as the number-two party in 1990 when Herb London finished a very close third behind GOP nominee Pete Rinfret. Their unity ticket with the GOP endorsing George Pataki was considered a key to Pataki's win in 1994.
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Re: N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2016, 12:17:07 am »
Hillary has a significant lead in New York.
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2016, 12:20:00 am »
This is the party that Sean Hannity belongs to, isn't it??

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Re: N.Y. Conservative Party will endorse Donald Trump
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2016, 12:23:58 am »
This should help him overcome the 20 point deficit Donny has in his home state.