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Trump Calls Obama 'Founder of ISIS'

Donald Trump accused President Barack Obama on Wednesday of establishing the Islamic State group that is wreaking havoc from the Middle East to European cities.

By JOSH LEDERMAN, Associated Press

SUNRISE, Fla. (AP) — Donald Trump is now accusing President Barack Obama of founding the Islamic State group that is wreaking havoc from the Middle East to European cities.

"In many respects, you know, they honor President Obama," Trump said Wednesday during a raucous campaign rally outside Fort Lauderdale, Florida. "He is the founder of ISIS."

He repeated the allegation three more times for emphasis.

Trump also pointedly referred to the president by his full legal name: Barack Hussein Obama.

The Republican presidential nominee in the past has accused his opponent, Democrat Hillary Clinton, of founding the militant group. As he shifted the blame to Obama on Wednesday, he said "crooked Hillary Clinton" was actually the group's co-founder.

See More At: http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-08-11/trump-accuses-obama-of-being-the-founder-of-isis

He was also holding up a number of charts and signs, I don't know if any of the signs said this.



I'd go as far as to say there was largely no ISIS previous to the Obama administration, "founder" is rhetoric or hyperbole imo.  A lot of people think this though.
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Re: Trump Calls Obama 'Founder of ISIS' - US News and World Report
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2016, 01:07:54 pm »
:facepalm2:


That Obama has been ineffective in dealing with ISIS is not the same thing as founding ISIS.


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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2016, 01:08:54 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2016, 01:09:24 pm »
:facepalm2:


That Obama has been ineffective in dealing with ISIS is not the same thing as founding ISIS.




and he said it after Hillary emails came out..
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Re: Trump Calls Obama 'Founder of ISIS' - US News and World Report
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2016, 01:13:50 pm »
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That Obama has been ineffective in dealing with ISIS is not the same thing as founding ISIS.

He helped arm them, he helped to fund them, he supported the people that organized them, he has avoided fighting them, he has ignored their atrocities, he thinks they just need a job, he doesn't think they are bad people, he believes Christian Americans are the real problem.

But Obama didn't "Found" them.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2016, 01:15:35 pm »
And Trump repeated it again this morning on CNBC, three times.

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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2016, 01:17:05 pm »

FYI...Your ridiculous icon depicting Cruz as the Penguin kills any sliver of credibility you have.  Like trashing true conservatives?
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2016, 01:21:35 pm »
FYI...Your ridiculous icon depicting Cruz as the Penguin kills any sliver of credibility you have.  Like trashing true conservatives?

I noticed that, too. How long ago was Trump named the nominee? I know, it feels like years.
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2016, 01:22:45 pm »
He helped arm them, he helped to fund them, he supported the people that organized them, he has avoided fighting them, he has ignored their atrocities, he thinks they just need a job, he doesn't think they are bad people, he believes Christian Americans are the real problem.

But Obama didn't "Found" them.

If only Trump took on Hillary the way he's fighting against the media and Republicans.
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2016, 01:25:17 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2016, 01:37:28 pm »
You don't know the first thing about branding, do you?



Yup, that's about how Trump's campaign feels.

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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2016, 01:38:56 pm »
:facepalm2:


That Obama has been ineffective in dealing with ISIS is not the same thing as founding ISIS.

My reaction was the same when I heard it on the radio this morning. He could have expressed the rise of ISIS under Obama's watch in many different ways. Intelligent ways backed up by facts and data. Yet once again he gives the loud mouth at the end of the bar comment, and once again a free gift to the liberal media.
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2016, 01:44:29 pm »
My reaction was the same when I heard it on the radio this morning. He could have expressed the rise of ISIS under Obama's watch in many different ways. Intelligent ways backed up by facts and data. Yet once again he gives the loud mouth at the end of the bar comment, and once again a free gift to the liberal media.

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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2016, 01:45:20 pm »
My reaction was the same when I heard it on the radio this morning. He could have expressed the rise of ISIS under Obama's watch in many different ways. Intelligent ways backed up by facts and data. Yet once again he gives the loud mouth at the end of the bar comment, and once again a free gift to the liberal media.

A reasoned voice in the wilderness that calls itself "Trumplandia".
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2016, 01:53:47 pm »
Under Obama and the withdrawal from Iraq, a vacuum was left and ISIS was able to seize it.

Also, encouraging the "Arab Spring" was stupid too.

So,  though I wouldn't go that far,  it's close to the truth.

Of course, there are other reasons for ISIS.

Main reason to vote for Trump, fight terrorism. So, those who speak so haughty and against Trump, should we suffer from this in the future as a nation as obviously, the people of Iraq and Syria have, I'll know I didn't make that decision not to vote for Trump. I won't be responsible.

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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2016, 02:05:36 pm »
FYI...Your ridiculous icon depicting Cruz as the Penguin kills any sliver of credibility you have.  Like trashing true conservatives?

That's too bad, it's all in jest; so, those who hammer us with Trump graphics do not get any criticism? I'm not calling anyone an idiot as anti-Trumpsters do routinely here.

All I have is close to what an editorial cartoon is.  It's satire, it's been a part of the American system.




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It's called balance.

For those who denigrate Trump, it's almost a career and place Cruz on a pedestal.

Cruz does not represent all Conservatives.  He has barely passed any bill; one that got bipartisan support. 

I supported Cruz but I don't place him on a pedestal.

Again, for Conservatives, I will look to Walker and Perry and perhaps to Cruz too; I voted for him daily at the TOS. But I also know, listening to Cruz is much like listening to Levin or Limbaugh. It's not that new what he's doing and pretty green on experience.
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2016, 02:06:47 pm »
My reaction was the same when I heard it on the radio this morning. He could have expressed the rise of ISIS under Obama's watch in many different ways. Intelligent ways backed up by facts and data. Yet once again he gives the loud mouth at the end of the bar comment, and once again a free gift to the liberal media.

And guess what else he said?  He made this, yet another, flippant comment regarding the possibility (probability) that he would lose the election.  And this .....IMO.....epitomizes his entire "I really don't care if I lose to Hillary cuz she's really my best friend" campaign.  Trump knows he'll have a quid pro quo thing going on when Hillary wins....and his long vacation will be well-padded with "thank yous".

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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2016, 02:09:52 pm »
That's too bad, it's all in jest; so, those who hammer us with Trump graphics do not get any criticism? I'm not calling anyone an idiot as anti-Trumpsters do routinely here.

All I have is close to what an editorial cartoon is.  It's satire, it's been a part of the American system.




Goldwater:

It's called balance.

For those who denigrate Trump, it's almost a career and place Cruz on a pedestal.

Cruz does not represent all Conservatives.  He has barely passed any bill; one that got bipartisan support. 

I supported Cruz but I don't place him on a pedestal.

Again, for Conservatives, I will look to Walker and Perry and perhaps to Cruz too; I voted for him daily at the TOS. But I also know, listening to Cruz is much like listening to Levin or Limbaugh. It's not that new what he's doing and pretty green on experience.

Your misplaced disrespect for Ted Cruz, at this late point in the game, doesn't bother me.  In fact, it's exactly what I would expect from a "Trump supporter". 
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2016, 02:21:43 pm »
Your misplaced disrespect for Ted Cruz, at this late point in the game, doesn't bother me.  In fact, it's exactly what I would expect from a "Trump supporter".
See, Xena is typical of the anti-Trumpster crowd, firing off insults, no civil tone.

Oh, and the great Constitutional Conservative Cruz who has little to show for his political career is the most venerated.

Excuse me, Paul Ryan, Rick Perry, Tom Cotton, all of these people have endorsed Trump.  So, I take your insults into consideration.

I'm not backstabbing the GOP as we could say Cruz does.

If the US gets hit with a big terrorist attack, I can easily slander you right back for "siding with terrorists", there is no reason to engage in these petulant infantile games.

Let's see, the vulcans, abraxas, sinkspur, jazzhead etc. a lot of these people engage in 24 hour denigrating of individuals, now we are talking about individuals.
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2016, 02:24:10 pm »
Oh, the Penguin per Burgess Meredith on the original Batman tv show juxtaposed as Ted Cruz, oh the humanity.

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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2016, 02:29:41 pm »
Xena Lee; I'm on record for voting for Cruz in the primary and most every day at the daily poll at the other website.

If you don't like Democracy, maybe you should move to North Korea, someone won the primaries, it's as simple as that, I supported Romney in 2012 in the general election all the same though I did not vote for him in the primary. Ted Cruz endorsed Romney.

Really shows people why we get such bad leaders, when one is attacked for being loyal.

Trump may lose but there is little doubt, Cruz probably would lose to Clinton as well. Rubio probably did stand a good chance to defeat Clinton, better than the others and then Kasich.

I'm not going to cry over spilled milk or throw out the baby with the bathwater.

The Never Romneys griping helped give us Obama.
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2016, 03:27:08 pm »
So, Trump triples down in an interview with Hugh Hewitt:

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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2016, 03:28:46 pm »
Bill Kristol ‏@BillKristol  36m36 minutes ago
Bill Kristol Retweeted Sahil Kapur
You'd think, after Trump rebuffs efforts by defenders to "explain" his statements, they'd get sick of defending him.
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2016, 03:30:30 pm »
Bill Kristol ‏@BillKristol  40m40 minutes ago
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By end of the campaign, Trump will have done his best to discredit every legitimate criticism of Obama and Clinton.
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2016, 04:47:56 pm »
Putz.