It doesn't matter what Trump meant — it matters what he said

[sinkspur]

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-second-amendment-hillary-clinton-comment-2016-8

It doesn't matter what Trump meant — it matters what he said

Josh Barro
 
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Yes, we have another one of those exhausting "What did Donald Trump really mean?" stories — this time, with higher stakes than usual.

As you've surely seen by now, Trump said this about Hillary Clinton at a rally in North Carolina: "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”

Trump's campaign insists he was only talking about political action, not an "assassination." Whatever — that's not how the shocked man behind Trump on stage at the rally seemed to take it.


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 Allan Smith ✔ @akarl_smith
That guy wearing the red shirt behind Trump ended up having a great reaction to Trump's "2nd amendment" comment
2:46 PM - 9 Aug 2016
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It doesn't really matter what Trump meant. It matters what he said — a reckless comment that might or might not be outrageous, depending on your interpretation. This has happened over and over during the campaign, and it would happen, with much higher stakes, during his presidency.

What the president says matters. Presidents' comments can move markets, create policy, inflame foreign tensions, even start wars. It is therefore important that presidents be careful.


Donald Trump is incapable of being careful. His loose talk is not a mere personality quirk and it is not refreshing — it is a reason he cannot handle the job of the presidency.

[Oceander]

[XenaLee]

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-second-amendment-hillary-clinton-comment-2016-8

It doesn't matter what Trump meant — it matters what he said

Josh Barro
 
3m    

Yes, we have another one of those exhausting "What did Donald Trump really mean?" stories — this time, with higher stakes than usual.

As you've surely seen by now, Trump said this about Hillary Clinton at a rally in North Carolina: "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”

Trump's campaign insists he was only talking about political action, not an "assassination." Whatever — that's not how the shocked man behind Trump on stage at the rally seemed to take it.


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 Allan Smith ✔ @akarl_smith
That guy wearing the red shirt behind Trump ended up having a great reaction to Trump's "2nd amendment" comment
2:46 PM - 9 Aug 2016
  781 781 Retweets   800 800 likes

It doesn't really matter what Trump meant. It matters what he said — a reckless comment that might or might not be outrageous, depending on your interpretation. This has happened over and over during the campaign, and it would happen, with much higher stakes, during his presidency.

What the president says matters. Presidents' comments can move markets, create policy, inflame foreign tensions, even start wars. It is therefore important that presidents be careful.


Donald Trump is incapable of being careful. His loose talk is not a mere personality quirk and it is not refreshing — it is a reason he cannot handle the job of the presidency.

There is still three months to go before the election.  One would think that the Trump fans would be getting awfully weary of having to parse, explain, interpret and defend his almost every statement.   They seem almost as relentless with their defenses as his mouth is re: his most reliable trait.....spouting off.  I wonder if they'll make it another three months. 

[HootOwl]

The Second Amendment people with their powerful lobby would try to get it defeated in Congress.  That's the way it is done in the USA.  He never mentioned any violence.  anyway, how would assassinating anyone do any good??  The press is reading something into this that isn't  there.

[The Jackal]

There is still three months to go before the election.  One would think that the Trump fans would be getting awfully weary of having to parse, explain, interpret and defend his almost every statement.   They seem almost as relentless with their defenses as his mouth is re: his most reliable trait.....spouting off.  I wonder if they'll make it another three months.

I doubt it. There will be a full on meltdown. Especially from FR Trumpsters who didn't accept the, "this is what he really meant" from Pope Francis and his apologists then but expect us to accept that line of explanation now because it's Trump.

[mystery-ak]

The Second Amendment people with their powerful lobby would try to get it defeated in Congress.  That's the way it is done in the USA.  He never mentioned any violence.  anyway, how would assassinating anyone do any good??  The press is reading something into this that isn't  there.

Yeah..I agree....another media driven story given to them by Trump himself...just damn

The media is determined to keep all the negative stories about Hillary buried and they are doing a fantastic job.

[sinkspur]

The Second Amendment people with their powerful lobby would try to get it defeated in Congress.  That's the way it is done in the USA.  He never mentioned any violence.  anyway, how would assassinating anyone do any good??  The press is reading something into this that isn't  there.

After the hundred plus offensive and insulting statements Trump has made, he is NOT going to get the benefit of the doubt from the press or anybody else.

[sinkspur]

Yeah..I agree....another media driven story given to them by Trump himself...just damn

The media is determined to keep all the negative stories about Hillary buried and they are doing a fantastic job.

When Trump races out and steps all over a story like the father of a jihadist at a Hillary rally, it's Trump who's at fault, not the press.

[Wingnut]

Yeah..I agree....another media driven story given to them by Trump himself...just damn

The media is determined to keep all the negative stories about Hillary buried and they are doing a fantastic job.

All he has to do is three simple things.  1. read what is written for him.  2. Kiss a few hands and shake a few babies.  3. Keep his mouth shut. 

How simple is that?  Come on.  Any Moron could do it.  But then I forget...Trump is not just any moron, He's the king of the morons.

So don't blame the press.  They always pick the low hanging friut.

[mystery-ak]

When Trump races out and steps all over a story like the father of a jihadist at a Hillary rally, it's Trump who's at fault, not the press.

Of course it is but do you think if this was in the reverse how much we would be hearing about it...nothing...I am tired of these stupid misstatements plastered all over the news for days and all of Hillarys crimes get buried....but that's what happens when the media controls the candidate.

[ArneFufkin]

What angers me is that every time Hillary makes a gaffe or has an exploitable moment (like Omar Mateen's Taliban-loving father getting a seat right behind Clinton in her Orlando appearance) -  Trump is hellbent to squander the opportunity by providing an adversarial media fodder with some strategically stupid comment or move.

Why can't he just take the productive day he had yesterday (with an impressive economic speech) and BUILD ON IT?   For a change?

[sinkspur]

What angers me is that every time Hillary makes a gaffe or has an exploitable moment (like Omar Mateen's Taliban-loving father getting a seat right behind Clinton in her Orlando appearance) -  Trump is hellbent to squander the opportunity by providing an adversarial media fodder with some strategically stupid comment or move.

Why can't he just take the productive day he had yesterday (with an impressive economic speech) and BUILD ON IT?   For a change?

Because his rallies are off script.  And when he goes off script, he says what's on his mind, which is often vengeful nonsense.  THIS IS TRUMP, when he's off script. That's why he's losing.

Everybody knows this is  the Trump we'd get if he were elected.  And he is not going to be.  This election is over, as of today.

[sinkspur]

Of course it is but do you think if this was in the reverse how much we would be hearing about it...nothing...I am tired of these stupid misstatements plastered all over the news for days and all of Hillarys crimes get buried....but that's what happens when the media controls the candidate.

But it's not in the reverse, is it?  The Democrats didn't nominate Bernie Sanders, a Trump-like character in his goofiness and outrageousness.

But the GOP, in its fascination with a reality-show rodeo clown, nominated Trump.  He's prone to gaffes, to insults, to ignorance. 

The media is simply responding to the environment, Myst.  Some of us told everybody this is what the media was going to do to Trump, and they're doing exactly that.

[Silver Pines]

Every time Hillary hits a rough patch, Trump says something to redirect the heat to himself.

Every time.


Derek Hunter ‏@derekahunter  2h2 hours ago
Tweeted this 10 hours ago:


Derek Hunter
‏@derekahunter
Lets see if Trump can capitalize on Hillary's latest screw up or if he says something dumb to take the focus off her appearance with Mateen.

[ScottinVA]

I personally believe the comment was't intended toward violence.. but what it does show is Trump's complete inability to stay on script when message management is most needed.  He and his followers have never connected to the fact that the post-convention phase of the campaign calls for reaching to the broader electorate.  Trump still thinks he's blathering to his base.

[ScottinVA]

Every time Hillary hits a rough patch, Trump says something to redirect the heat to himself.

Every time.


Derek Hunter ‏@derekahunter  2h2 hours ago
Tweeted this 10 hours ago:


Derek Hunter
‏@derekahunter
Lets see if Trump can capitalize on Hillary's latest screw up or if he says something dumb to take the focus off her appearance with Mateen.

I couldn't agree more.  Every single time Hillary faces the heat, Trump comes riding in to the rescue.

[The Jackal]

I personally believe the comment was't intended toward violence.. but what it does show is Trump's complete inability to stay on script when message management is most needed.  He and his followers have never connected to the fact that the post-convention phase of the campaign calls for reaching to the broader electorate.  Trump still thinks he's blathering to his base.

Agreed. One of the factors for me personally in being #nevertrump (aside from the political) is his unwillingness to raise the level of his discourse a few grade levels and knock off the stream of consciousness crap with unfinished sentences. I can only pretend to be stupid for so long. It's why I can't listen to his speeches anymore. If that sounds a bit snobby then that is my failing but so be it.

[Suppressed]

The Second Amendment people with their powerful lobby would try to get it defeated in Congress.  That's the way it is done in the USA.  He never mentioned any violence.  anyway, how would assassinating anyone do any good??  The press is reading something into this that isn't  there.

Whew.

I'm glad he shot down his own point about needing to vote for him because of SCOTUS picks.

[Night Hides Not]

All he has to do is three simple things.  1. read what is written for him.  2. Kiss a few hands and shake a few babies.  3. Keep his mouth shut. 

How simple is that?  Come on.  Any Moron could do it.  But then I forget...Trump is not just any moron, He's the king of the morons.

So don't blame the press.  They always pick the low hanging friut.

And Trump can't help himself by shaking the tree, forcefully and often.

Here's a picture of Trump at work:

[catfish1957]

Nuts, Putz, and Ruts.........



Name three defining characteristics of the 2016 Trump campaign

[ABX]

When one starts to get into the 'what he really meant to say was....' games, especially absent evidence supporting it, that's just a reflection of that person's own belief, not what the candidate said. It is projecting what you want to believe on the candidate. It is basically, a Rorschach Test.

[Wingnut]

And Trump can't help himself by shaking the tree, forcefully and often.

Here's a picture of Trump at work:

I pictured Trump more squating behind a bush saying: "Shaking the Tree Boss.  Just Shaking the Tree"

[Silver Pines]

I couldn't agree more.  Every single time Hillary faces the heat, Trump comes riding in to the rescue.

@ScottinVA

I've started testing it out, and sure enough, you can depend on it like clockwork.

[debrawiest]

Proverbs 10:19 (NASB)
When there are many words, transgression is unavoidable,
But he who restrains his lips is wise.

Perhaps one of his "spiritual advisors" can point him to this proverb. His verbal vomit schtick is getting old.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Oh come on it was a just a "short circuit."