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Poll: 13 percent of adults say they smoke marijuana
« on: August 08, 2016, 01:47:08 pm »
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Poll: 13 percent of adults say they smoke marijuana

By Rebecca Savransky

Thirteen percent of adults say they currently smoke marijuana, according to a new Gallup poll.

The percentage of adults who say they use marijuana today has nearly doubled from the number who reported using the drug in a 2013 poll.

The new poll also found that 43 percent of adults say they have tried marijuana.

Marijuana use is still prohibited by federal law, but the number of states that have legalized recreational marijuana has grown from two in 2013 to four today. Five states will also vote on whether to legalize marijuana in November.

Half of U.S. states also have some sort of medical marijuana law and four more will be voting in the fall on whether to legalize marijuana for medicinal use.

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and Republican nominee Donald Trump have both expressed support for medicinal marijuana.

According to the poll, people in the West — the location of the four states that have already legalized recreational marijuana use — are more likely to say they smoke marijuana than residents in other parts of the country.

The Gallup poll was conducted from July 13-17 among 1,023 adults. The margin of error is 5 percent.

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Re: Poll: 13 percent of adults say they smoke marijuana
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2016, 02:08:04 pm »
That's almost as many as those who smoke at this point.
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Re: Poll: 13 percent of adults say they smoke marijuana
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2016, 03:32:34 pm »
Idiocracy.

This is the problem with widespread marijuana use.  ONE pothead is a nuisance.  A hundred thousand of them, across the country, are not even a statistical blip.

But as more and more people deem it socially-acceptable and low-risk to use it...and stay chronically impaired, since THC takes WEEKS to get out of the system...what it does is skew the Bell Curve back.  Large numbers of people cognitively-impaired, takes the mean average down.

That's part of why we have Bern-Knee supporters and agitators for socialism, even as we watch Venezuela collapse into famine.  Because so many of us are stupid, some of us by choice, chemically.

We will learn, too late, the wisdom of banning such drugs.  Marijuana is a cultural poison that prevents societal advancement and rolls back advancement in modern cultures where it becomes accepted.

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Re: Poll: 13 percent of adults say they smoke marijuana
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2016, 04:05:20 pm »
The time when Americans drank all day long

By Jane O'Brien BBC News, Washington 9 March 2015

The Puritans get a bad rap in America - especially when it comes to alcohol. They are generally blamed for putting the dampeners on any form of fun, and many people assume that it was the nation's puritanical roots coming to the surface when Prohibition was introduced in 1917.

But while they weren't exactly party animals, a new exhibition at the US National Archives reveals that the Puritans actually approved of drink.

"One of the things we understand now is that the initial ship that came over from England to Massachusetts Bay actually carried more beer than water," says Bruce Bustard, senior curator of Spirited Republic: Alcohol in American History.

In fact Increase Mather, a prominent Puritan minister of the period, delivered a sermon in which he described alcohol as being "a good creature of God" - although the drunkard was "of the devil."

Early Americans even took a healthful dram for breakfast, whiskey was a typical lunchtime tipple, ale accompanied supper and the day ended with a nightcap. Continuous imbibing clearly built up a tolerance as most Americans in 1790 consumed an average 5.8 gallons of pure alcohol a year.
"We think of that as an astounding amount - you would think people would be staggering around drunk, but most people were able to handle their alcohol because it was integrated into daily life." says Bustard.

This was also a period when most people were working in the fields which presumably didn't require much focus. And living in a tight knit community meant people could keep an eye on each other and intervene if somebody was thought to be overdoing it. Even so, modern Americans look quite abstemious by comparison, consuming only two gallons of pure alcohol per year.

In 1830, consumption peaked at 7.1 gallons a year and drinking became a moral issue.

"This was a time of great reform fervour," says Bustard. "Think of the women's rights movement and anti-slavery movement. Another very popular and powerful movement was the temperance and ultimately Prohibition movement."

Alcoholism - also known as dipsomania - was starting to have a serious impact on communities. Women and children might be in physical danger if the man of the house began drinking. If he became ill or lost his job through drink, there was no social safety net to support or protect his family.

In 1862 the US Navy abolished the traditional half-pint daily rum ration for sailors, and by the late 19th Century support for Prohibition, banning the manufacture and sale of alcohol was overwhelming. On 16 January 1919, the 18th Amendment, which set Prohibition into law, became part of the Constitution.

Many famous figures emerged from the era - the Chicago gangster boss Al Capone being the most notorious. But the National Archives exhibition reveals details of some lesser-known heroes who fought on the side of the law.

Isidor "Izzy" Einstein was an immigrant from Austria-Hungary who had no experience in law enforcement. Nevertheless, he made his name arresting almost 5,000 people accused of bootlegging, and enjoyed a 95% conviction rate.

The Founding Fathers liked a drink - Samuel Adams was a partner in his father's malt house and Thomas Jefferson was famed for importing European wines.

By the late 19th Century, dipsomania, or alcoholism, was being treated as a disease.

The first arrest for driving under the influence of alcohol was in 1897.

In 1955 the first breathalyser was patented.

Americans drink an average of 2.3 gallons of pure alcohol a year compared to 7.1 gallons in 1830.He and his partner Moe Smith often worked in disguise but also tipped off reporters in order to get favourable news coverage. That publicity and their lack of professional experience eventually led to both being dismissed.

But prohibition did not ban alcohol consumption and many Americans found legal and not so legal ways to carry on drinking. The speakeasy was born, organised crime moved in and alcohol became big business. The cost of enforcing prohibition itself became prohibitive.

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From the article, it sounds like the thing to do if you truly believe in the ways of the Founding Fathers, would be to drink three times as much as a nation.
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Re: Poll: 13 percent of adults say they smoke marijuana
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2016, 04:26:51 pm »
Alcohol and marijuana have next-to-nothing in common.  They're different drugs; they affect the brain and CNS differently; one is short-term and the other is absorbed by body fat and leached out of the body over weeks. 

The only thing they have in common is that they're both identified as "drugs."  Well, aspirin is a drug, too...should we watch aspirin users?

Alcohol has been in society since there WAS human society and probably before.  Marijuana, ganga, peyote...other similar mild hallucinogenics...are only used in backwards primitive cultures which seem unable to advance.  And when adopted by advanced cultures, such as in Denmark or, more generally, modern western Europe...advancement stops; society regresses; poor choices are made culture-wide (such as welcoming in the murderous Mohammedans) and society reels.  And probably collapses, although we haven't seen it get that far yet.

But since Rhodesia and South Africa were taken over by the tribalists, of which smoking hallucinogens is part of their cultural tradition...they've regressed to food shortages, chaotic economies, racialist policies and even race-related slaughter.

This what we want?

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Re: Poll: 13 percent of adults say they smoke marijuana
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2016, 04:42:01 pm »
the other is absorbed by body fat and leached out of the body over weeks.

Because of the kinetics involved, back-diffusion processes are generally far slower than getting the material into there in the first place.  Is there any evidence that there's a psychotropic effect at the levels that are returning to the bloodstream? 
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Re: Poll: 13 percent of adults say they smoke marijuana
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2016, 04:57:12 pm »
Because of the kinetics involved, back-diffusion processes are generally far slower than getting the material into there in the first place.  Is there any evidence that there's a psychotropic effect at the levels that are returning to the bloodstream?

Research and science have been politicized; and the politics of the day favors promotion of a stupifying recreational drug.

How does drug-screening work?  Urine and blood samples.  If it's in the blood, it's in the nervous system.  Absence of the high is not proof of absence - as any long-term abuser of pain medicine can attest.  Tests I'd read long ago suggest both reaction and cognitive judgment are impaired long after the "buzz" goes away.

Moreover, there is the sociological correlation between pot use and arrested advancement of a culture.

It doesn't matter to the discussion, though.  Those with a vested emotional interest in promoting marijuana use and access will continue to deny it.  And in a culture were we cannot even dissuade voters of the harmful effects of SOCIALISM, arguments against pot-use are going to be ignored and shouted down.

We are really becoming Idiocracy.  We will not stay there long, however - we'll either collapse or be conquered in short order.

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2016, 05:15:31 pm »
Alcohol and marijuana have next-to-nothing in common.  They're different drugs; they affect the brain and CNS differently; one is short-term and the other is absorbed by body fat and leached out of the body over weeks. 

The only thing they have in common is that they're both identified as "drugs."  Well, aspirin is a drug, too...should we watch aspirin users?

Alcohol has been in society since there WAS human society and probably before.  Marijuana, ganga, peyote...other similar mild hallucinogenics...are only used in backwards primitive cultures which seem unable to advance.  And when adopted by advanced cultures, such as in Denmark or, more generally, modern western Europe...advancement stops; society regresses; poor choices are made culture-wide (such as welcoming in the murderous Mohammedans) and society reels.  And probably collapses, although we haven't seen it get that far yet.

But since Rhodesia and South Africa were taken over by the tribalists, of which smoking hallucinogens is part of their cultural tradition...they've regressed to food shortages, chaotic economies, racialist policies and even race-related slaughter.

This what we want?
My own view of chronic MJ use is that it destroys brain cells. Some studies have asserted loss of brain function concerning young users, but I think it affects everybody who use it constantly. 
Certainly, I'd wager liberals are bigger users of dope than conservatives. My two biggest hardcore liberal siblings were also the biggest dopers.
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Re: Poll: 13 percent of adults say they smoke marijuana
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2016, 05:15:59 pm »
Research and science have been politicized; and the politics of the day favors promotion of a stupifying recreational drug.

How does drug-screening work?  Urine and blood samples.  If it's in the blood, it's in the nervous system.  Absence of the high is not proof of absence - as any long-term abuser of pain medicine can attest.  Tests I'd read long ago suggest both reaction and cognitive judgment are impaired long after the "buzz" goes away.

Moreover, there is the sociological correlation between pot use and arrested advancement of a culture.

It doesn't matter to the discussion, though.  Those with a vested emotional interest in promoting marijuana use and access will continue to deny it.  And in a culture were we cannot even dissuade voters of the harmful effects of SOCIALISM, arguments against pot-use are going to be ignored and shouted down.

We are really becoming Idiocracy.  We will not stay there long, however - we'll either collapse or be conquered in short order.

So you see no adverse impact of alcohol worthy of government prohibition, yet see an adverse impact of Marijuana to justify a government restriction upon personal freedom?

Are drunk driving deaths and injuries of no concern to you? 
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Re: Poll: 13 percent of adults say they smoke marijuana
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2016, 05:24:01 pm »
One other thing I've noticed is that many times after reading accounts of arrests of violent criminals many of the perps were found to have cannabis in their system, gentle giant Michael Brown for example.
The assertion of many pro cannabis people is that the drug calms people down making them less prone to violence.
if that's the case, why are so many violent perps found with MJ in their systems when arrested or (in many cases) autopsied?

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Re: Poll: 13 percent of adults say they smoke marijuana
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2016, 05:25:47 pm »
Idiocracy.

This is the problem with widespread marijuana use.  ONE pothead is a nuisance.  A hundred thousand of them, across the country, are not even a statistical blip.

But as more and more people deem it socially-acceptable and low-risk to use it...and stay chronically impaired, since THC takes WEEKS to get out of the system...what it does is skew the Bell Curve back.  Large numbers of people cognitively-impaired, takes the mean average down.

That's part of why we have Bern-Knee supporters and agitators for socialism, even as we watch Venezuela collapse into famine.  Because so many of us are stupid, some of us by choice, chemically.

We will learn, too late, the wisdom of banning such drugs.  Marijuana is a cultural poison that prevents societal advancement and rolls back advancement in modern cultures where it becomes accepted.

First of all, the line reads "ADULTS".   The vast majority of Sanders supporters are college-aged millennials, or at least, under 30.   BTW which, doesn't bode well for the future of the Republic, as Founded.

I would rather somebody in my family smoke marijuana for their 'high', than chronically drink alcohol. 

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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2016, 05:38:28 pm »
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I would rather somebody in my family smoke marijuana for their 'high', than chronically drink alcohol.

It is common for MJ smokers to be functioning daily while smoking. They start their day by getting high. They stay "high" all day. I have family members who do this. I have only met one person who drank all day long and he was getting sober at the time.
MJ is really expensive for day to day chronic use. Much more than alcohol. Also it is illegal in most places.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2016, 05:51:43 pm »
It is common for MJ smokers to be functioning daily while smoking. They start their day by getting high. They stay "high" all day. I have family members who do this. I have only met one person who drank all day long and he was getting sober at the time.
MJ is really expensive for day to day chronic use. Much more than alcohol. Also it is illegal in most places.

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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2016, 06:00:11 pm »
I know a lot of potheads, that is why I oppose legalization.

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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2016, 06:52:29 pm »
I have a friend now in his mid-50's who runs a landscaping/lawn-cutting business with his wife.

They both hit the bong soon as their feet touch the bedroom floor.  All day...everyday.

They earn $1K @ day during the Spring thru Fall...and do snow removal in the winter.   He also does slate and stone work for patios and walkways, etc..

They don't go outside their subdivision for any work.

They are highly driven people...which blows the theory out of the water...that marijuana limits your functionality.   
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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2016, 07:04:35 pm »
I have a friend now in his mid-50's who runs a landscaping/lawn-cutting business with his wife.

They both hit the bong soon as their feet touch the bedroom floor.  All day...everyday.

They earn $1K @ day during the Spring thru Fall...and do snow removal in the winter.   He also does slate and stone work for patios and walkways, etc..

They don't go outside their subdivision for any work.

They are highly driven people...which blows the theory out of the water...that marijuana limits your functionality.

'cept they're too paranoid to leave their subdivision.  :whistle:

I gave it up because it is illegal. That made me paranoid.

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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2016, 07:06:35 pm »
MJ is really expensive for day to day chronic use. Much more than alcohol. Also it is illegal in most places.


It only takes a few plants to provide a user with all his MJ needs. No more than what would fit in a closet.  Much, much cheaper than alcohol.

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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2016, 07:13:19 pm »
I have a friend now in his mid-50's who runs a landscaping/lawn-cutting business with his wife.

They both hit the bong soon as their feet touch the bedroom floor.  All day...everyday.

They earn $1K @ day during the Spring thru Fall...and do snow removal in the winter.   He also does slate and stone work for patios and walkways, etc..

They don't go outside their subdivision for any work.

They are highly driven people...which blows the theory out of the water...that marijuana limits your functionality.

They can't get a job in most real places of employment with that kind of MJ use. 

You limit your employment options if you mess your brain up with drugs.
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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2016, 07:14:42 pm »
Ok, true confession,  my ex-husband was a drug dealer, he would get high in the morning and stay high all day.  I was an occasional pot smoker, only on weekends, because I was away at school, but when I got pregnant I stopped smoking pot and cigarettes.
My ex was lazy and at age 40 now he's never had a job beyond delivering pizza and he would deal drugs to support his own habit.  He has no motivation.  Was it because of the pot, I don't think so.  Judging from the way he was raised, I don't think he would have had much motivation regardless.

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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2016, 07:27:17 pm »
Never met a regular pot smoker who was worth a damn.

Smoked pot maybe 10-12 times in my youth. Glad I never did it more.

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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2016, 07:33:24 pm »
I have a friend now in his mid-50's who runs a landscaping/lawn-cutting business with his wife.

They both hit the bong soon as their feet touch the bedroom floor.  All day...everyday.

They earn $1K @ day during the Spring thru Fall...and do snow removal in the winter.   He also does slate and stone work for patios and walkways, etc..

They don't go outside their subdivision for any work.

They are highly driven people...which blows the theory out of the water...that marijuana limits your functionality.

A few people you know does not make a statistic.  The people on FR who smoke cigarettes who say their aunt lived to age 99 and smokes 5 packs a day and they never had cancer so smoking is ok is not a regular stat.

As I said above nearly every regular pot smoker I have come across is not worth  a damn. I'm sure there are some like Michael Phelps you can point out but they are not the norm.

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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2016, 07:48:46 pm »
Never met a regular pot smoker who was worth a damn.


How would you know?  Do they have a sign on their chest? Or do you ask everyone you meet?

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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2016, 08:06:01 pm »
How would you know?  Do they have a sign on their chest? Or do you ask everyone you meet?

HS, college classmates/fraternity brothers,  work place and as a employer.   It's not exactly a secret.   One of my wifes 3rd tier friends-friend of a friend type thing  said her husband drives everywhere and won't fly because he can't bring his stash of pot on the plane.

It's not difficult..many say they are regular pot smokers.

As an employer we do drug testing for new hires .  As soon as you say that they walk away.

Not hard to figure out who smokes pot on a regular basis.

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As an employer we do drug testing for new hires .  As soon as you say that they walk away.

Not hard to figure out who smokes pot on a regular basis.

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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2016, 08:22:15 pm »
Since you don't hire them, How do you know They're Not Worth a Damn?

He said "nearly"........ not "every."   ^-^
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